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Topic: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Get Destroyed
Kleisto's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:13 AM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 08/03/11 10:14 AM








There's been people BTW who have claimed it impossible to fly a plane directly into the building like that incidentally, at least a plane that size. You may not believe that, but that is something to consider here.

Ok but tower 7 came down too, and all it had was just a small fire. There is no way it makes any sense whatsoever that THAT would collapse just from that alone.

As for the concrete, it doesn't factor in that you can actually see fire from the individual sections exploding as the thing came down. That indicates me to some type of explosives were present.


i've watched every video that i could, and have seen nothing to support any explosions that you are talking about. if you have one that shows the explosions, i would be glad to watch it. Building 7 had quite a bit of damage from the fall of the other buildins, and every 5 floors they had about 1000 gallons of diesel fuel to run the generators. when they caught fire, it was a slow, hot burn. at least that was what i read.
and why do you think flying a plane is so hard? anyone can fly a plane, it is not near as hard as you think. have you ever played a flight simulator game on a computer?


It was actually said that it was TRIED on flight simulator to do what these big planes supposedly did, and it couldn't be done. What would you say to that?

To fly a plane is one thing, but doing something like this is another matter.


Really? Chuck Yeager said it was completely possible. He is probably the most experienced decorated pilot in the history of the American and world Military branches. He is also one of the most accomplished test pilots in American history as well.

I think he knows a little more on this subject the any Truther.


He was probably in on the lie too. He wouldn't be able to say the truth publicly.


You know how crazy that sounds? You realize he retired from the military in 1975 right? He is one of the most honorable men I have ever met and tells it like it is.

Not to mention they wouldn't involve a wild card like that who hadn't been in the military in over 25 years in a conspiracy. Just sayin'


These days.......you never know. The truth is always stranger than fiction.

Kleisto's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:14 AM

















That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not.


There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that.


So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda.


Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda.

It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this.

No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence.


It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't.

I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time.

Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism.

I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth?


If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case.

Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....."

Understand what I mean?

If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it?


Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think.



do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in


When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed.

Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now.


The buildings at 9/11 look nothing like any demolition. "That you know of"? You don't know anything about building demolition at all. The building fell EXACTLY how physics predicts they would fall.

The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also.

Since you don't know about modern construction, friction connections rely on the clamping action of the bolt to hold two pieces (or more) of steel together. If the force exceeds the friction force (which occurs when load redistribution occurs) a hundred tons of steel slams into the connected part as the friction capacity of the bolted connection is exceeded. The friction connection then becomes a bearing connection. The slip of about one 32th of an inch sounds like an explosion and actually carries the force of one. Almost all modern buildings are erected with ASTM A-325 high strength bolts but some circumstances require ASTM A-490... which would make an even louder bang.




BTW arn't you an Engineer or something?


Yes, structural at that, also material science, and failure mode analysis.


So, I think you may know a little more on this subject then a High School kid then eh? Oh wait, your probably in on the conspiracy too! rofl


whoa

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:15 AM
anyone ever see this movie? (idiocracy)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/


Kleisto's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:18 AM




i doubt anybody will get it until its too late but here goes.its way bigger than 911.your whole reality system is based on lies.everything that happens is preplanned and shaped towards a goal.you arent free like you think.almost all the stores that you buy from are owned by satanic groups.almost all food products in the restaurants and stores contain massive amounts of msg(to lower your IQ)allowed by the fda.most of your water supply contains fluoride(to lower your IQ)your fillings and shots contain mercury (to lower your IQ)you still dont get it? most of the vitamins and nutrients have been removed from your food (to lower your IQ).from the first president until the last has been raised and prepicked.(not by you).it doesnt matter if your dem or repub or other.they all have the same goals to carry out.this is being done all over the world.they have been in power since babylon.the terrorism adjective is to confine you and track your every move.but you feel safer.very few have understood this.this is to set you up for one world government.one world religion.one world army.the rich familys have always been rich and stay rich they were the ones inside the castle.you are poor and always will be.you go to work everyday and seem to really get nowhere while you dream of becoming rich.they make the rules and you play the game.thats why you can never get ahead.you pay for energy at any price they say and it seems fair.if you dont constantly pay your taxes they take your stuff.its like the casino the dealer always wins.you still think your free?all of the odds are set up against you.you recycle to save the environment as they poison your food and water.but the food says its extra healthy and sugar and fat free.they are lying to you and the fda goes along with it.the pharmaceutical companys own the health food companys and the vitamin companys.most stores and products now have satanic logos but i guess you cant see them.just like the oil companys bought all the electric trolly companys and destroyed them.electric cars work they just dont want you to have them.they want everybody to use gas and oil so they can pull the plug. so you think you are still free? anyone can become president.you were taught in school to give you a false sense of hope.if you do have a business thats growing big they buy you out and then own you.your products cant compete if you cant sell them.walmart buys your products in record amount and lower your price each time.when you resist they drop you and your company goes under.then they buy it at rock bottom prices and take over.every product is a name brand owned by another company. but dont worry your still free.


This makes no sense at all. Why would the government want dumb people? We would stop being the strongest economic power. We are not strong because of working class(as they outsource more and more) we are strong because of innovation.


Why would they want dumb people? Simple, they are easy to control. Let me repeat that: THEY ARE EASY TO CONTROL. Dumb people will do anything they are told without question, even if it makes no sense. Needless to say, we have a lot of those such people in our country now.

As far as innovation goes, you ought to ask yourself something. If that's so prized, why are they outsourcing our jobs for? Why are they making it so damned hard for people to start a business even if they want to? Why are corporations becoming more and more powerful, all but eliminating the little guys from competing? It all runs together, all they care about is about money, and how they can get more and more of it. They don't care who they have to step on to get it, they just want it. It just so happens that those they are stepping on is us. If they really gave a crap about what we can do for them, they wouldn't be treating us like dirt and trying to suck every last penny from us like they do.

You need to get your head out of the sand, the reality of what is going on is so much larger than you know.



They outsource manual labor. Uneducated jobs. They don't outsource innovation. So what if dumb people are easy to control. If everyone is dumb the controllers are dumb. Do they have some secret food supply to only give to their families. It would be really hard for them to not eat any "poisoned" food as the generations change. Also controlling dumb people is useless. Our country wouldn't be able to be a super power if everyone was dumb. We would slip into a 3rd world country. It is in the USA's best interests to have smart people. We have some of the best colleges in the world. Some of the highest rated Doctors, Engineers, Scientists. There is no evidence the government would want to make people dumb and its totally illogical at that.


We practically ARE becoming a 3rd world country, do you not see how the middle class is evaporating? Meanwhile they get ever richer. Put 2 and 2 together, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU! WAKE UP!

And BTW, do you really think they eat the same crap we do? Of course they don't, they know better! They're not that stupid.

Also controlling dumb people is not useless, because then you got them doing anything you want, and they do. They hold all the power and it's in part due to the brainwashing, which I can tell from this thread alone has worked greatly.

Kleisto's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:19 AM

anyone ever see this movie? (idiocracy)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/




I have, and that's EXACTLY what we have anymore. It nails it.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:21 AM


anyone ever see this movie? (idiocracy)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/




I have, and that's EXACTLY what we have anymore. It nails it.


lol, it did make some sense... i'm sitting giggling at some of the scenes in that movie..

Kleisto's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:24 AM



anyone ever see this movie? (idiocracy)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/




I have, and that's EXACTLY what we have anymore. It nails it.


lol, it did make some sense... i'm sitting giggling at some of the scenes in that movie..


Between this and the Matrix, you got a pretty good look at what is going on in the world, and specifically here. If only more people would actually realize it.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:26 AM




anyone ever see this movie? (idiocracy)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/




I have, and that's EXACTLY what we have anymore. It nails it.


lol, it did make some sense... i'm sitting giggling at some of the scenes in that movie..


Between this and the Matrix, you got a pretty good look at what is going on in the world, and specifically here. If only more people would actually realize it.


please don't say we are living in the matrix... you have to know better than that...lol

Lpdon's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:27 AM









There's been people BTW who have claimed it impossible to fly a plane directly into the building like that incidentally, at least a plane that size. You may not believe that, but that is something to consider here.

Ok but tower 7 came down too, and all it had was just a small fire. There is no way it makes any sense whatsoever that THAT would collapse just from that alone.

As for the concrete, it doesn't factor in that you can actually see fire from the individual sections exploding as the thing came down. That indicates me to some type of explosives were present.


i've watched every video that i could, and have seen nothing to support any explosions that you are talking about. if you have one that shows the explosions, i would be glad to watch it. Building 7 had quite a bit of damage from the fall of the other buildins, and every 5 floors they had about 1000 gallons of diesel fuel to run the generators. when they caught fire, it was a slow, hot burn. at least that was what i read.
and why do you think flying a plane is so hard? anyone can fly a plane, it is not near as hard as you think. have you ever played a flight simulator game on a computer?


It was actually said that it was TRIED on flight simulator to do what these big planes supposedly did, and it couldn't be done. What would you say to that?

To fly a plane is one thing, but doing something like this is another matter.


Really? Chuck Yeager said it was completely possible. He is probably the most experienced decorated pilot in the history of the American and world Military branches. He is also one of the most accomplished test pilots in American history as well.

I think he knows a little more on this subject the any Truther.


He was probably in on the lie too. He wouldn't be able to say the truth publicly.


You know how crazy that sounds? You realize he retired from the military in 1975 right? He is one of the most honorable men I have ever met and tells it like it is.

Not to mention they wouldn't involve a wild card like that who hadn't been in the military in over 25 years in a conspiracy. Just sayin'


These days.......you never know. The truth is always stranger than fiction.


surprised Why in the hell would they read someone in who retired from the military as a 1 Star in 1975? surprised

Lpdon's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:28 AM


















That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not.


There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that.


So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda.


Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda.

It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this.

No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence.


It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't.

I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time.

Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism.

I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth?


If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case.

Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....."

Understand what I mean?

If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it?


Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think.



do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in


When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed.

Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now.


The buildings at 9/11 look nothing like any demolition. "That you know of"? You don't know anything about building demolition at all. The building fell EXACTLY how physics predicts they would fall.

The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also.

Since you don't know about modern construction, friction connections rely on the clamping action of the bolt to hold two pieces (or more) of steel together. If the force exceeds the friction force (which occurs when load redistribution occurs) a hundred tons of steel slams into the connected part as the friction capacity of the bolted connection is exceeded. The friction connection then becomes a bearing connection. The slip of about one 32th of an inch sounds like an explosion and actually carries the force of one. Almost all modern buildings are erected with ASTM A-325 high strength bolts but some circumstances require ASTM A-490... which would make an even louder bang.




BTW arn't you an Engineer or something?


Yes, structural at that, also material science, and failure mode analysis.


So, I think you may know a little more on this subject then a High School kid then eh? Oh wait, your probably in on the conspiracy too! rofl


whoa


The guy works in that field, what experience do you have? Do tell, please let us know your experience or expertise on this.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:31 AM




anyone ever see this movie? (idiocracy)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/




I have, and that's EXACTLY what we have anymore. It nails it.


lol, it did make some sense... i'm sitting giggling at some of the scenes in that movie..


Between this and the Matrix, you got a pretty good look at what is going on in the world, and specifically here. If only more people would actually realize it.


Dud, seriously? The matrix is a work of FICTION. If you hold that as gospel or think there is any truth to it well let's just say I am worried about you.

metalwing's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:45 AM



















That assumes they care about who caused 9/11 or not.


There's a saying: "Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story". It'd behoove you to think about that.


So you agree that you have no facts or "truth" so you just make up a "good story" about those people having a cover up agenda.


Way to put words in my mouth, though coming from you I shouldn't be surprised that you'd twist my words to suit your own agenda.

It's they that make up the truth as they see fit according to what they want to do, no matter what the truth actually is, and they've been doing it for a long time. But I don't expect you to understand that because you are so obviously incapable of seeing this.

No I am just continuing to point out that you have provided NO FACTS at all for any of your claims. Also you are not supposed to attack people either or have you forgotten the forum rules? I am willing to see your so called truth if you actually provide anything to support your claims. We ask and ask and nothing is provided so it leads people to believe there is no evidence.


It's the truth though, our government has been screwing us all over for YEARS. It's just a matter of being able to see it, and you can't or won't.

I don't buy that you would believe me even if I DID give you evidence, because your mind is clearly made up that everything someone like me says is bunk. Prove to me you have an open mind first, then we'll talk. Otherwise the whole exercise is a flat waste of time.

Hey I agree the government is retarded but that doesn't mean I think they were behind 9/11 and as far as science is concerned the official story makes sense. I can't argue about previous knowledge of an attack though because that is just skepticism.

I have my idea of what the truth is just as you have yours. How is asking for you to share your evidence not being open minded? You are wasting more time calling me closed minded then it would be for you to show your evidence so that is obviously not the real reason. You have not given anyone any reason to believe anything you say. If you have all this proof why not post it here? If not for me then all the other people that deserve to know the truth?


If I put it down and people just criticize it, then it was a waste of time. There's no point to me if that's gonna be the case.

Asking for evidence is one thing, but when you ask for it in the context of a clear bias as to what the truth is from your end, it's not quite the same. It amounts to a: "Oh yeah, prove it" attitude, and then when one tries the person just goes: "Oh that's crap....."

Understand what I mean?

If it is ACTUAL evidence it isn't crap is it? Yea lots of the conspiracy theories are crap because people don't actually understand the science and when experts in the field explain it they are all of a sudden part of the conspiracy. Now if you have any actual evidence with either science or documentation proving your theories I would love to see them. If your evidence doesn't hold up to criticism it isn't real evidence is it?


Here's the problem though, some of these so called "scientists" are in the government's back pocket. Just like certain people in the legal system are as well. You have to bear that in mind when you hear things before you believe them. That is to say, consider what agenda they might have, or who might be paying them off. It's really not as simple as you think.



do you understand the data the scientists put out? if you don't, then you should learn more to understand what they are saying. just because a "scientist" says there is no way a building could fall straight down like that without any data to prove it, that should draw a flag to people. But if you look at the data, and understand it, then the science cannot lie, no matter whose backpocket they are in


When you look at how those buildings fell, and compare them to controlled demolitions, they look VERY similar. There is no building that I know of that collapsed via fire, THAT fast and at THAT rate of speed.

Further there are several people that spoke out in the aftermath about hearing explosions coming from the towers. Are you gonna tell me they were hearing things? Come on now.


The buildings at 9/11 look nothing like any demolition. "That you know of"? You don't know anything about building demolition at all. The building fell EXACTLY how physics predicts they would fall.

The sound of "explosions" was the transfer of force to the building connections lower in the building. Buildings don't use rivets anymore nor do they use bearing connections. They use welded shear connections with friction bolted erection connections. Most moment connections are friction bolted also.

Since you don't know about modern construction, friction connections rely on the clamping action of the bolt to hold two pieces (or more) of steel together. If the force exceeds the friction force (which occurs when load redistribution occurs) a hundred tons of steel slams into the connected part as the friction capacity of the bolted connection is exceeded. The friction connection then becomes a bearing connection. The slip of about one 32th of an inch sounds like an explosion and actually carries the force of one. Almost all modern buildings are erected with ASTM A-325 high strength bolts but some circumstances require ASTM A-490... which would make an even louder bang.




BTW arn't you an Engineer or something?


Yes, structural at that, also material science, and failure mode analysis.


So, I think you may know a little more on this subject then a High School kid then eh? Oh wait, your probably in on the conspiracy too! rofl


whoa


The guy works in that field, what experience do you have? Do tell, please let us know your experience or expertise on this.


He has seen the Matrix! Bow before his knowledge! laugh

Chazster's photo
Wed 08/03/11 10:57 AM
Yes because he thinks the government wants us to be like idocracy. They don't want America to become less powerful they want it to be more powerful. They dont care about me? Then why have accreditation for engineers that require higher standards than other countries? Why give me a security clearance? dumb people are more likely to be violent than smart people. A iron fist government against violent people = uprising then there is civil war and no country. They dont want dumb people.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/03/11 11:02 AM

Yes because he thinks the government wants us to be like idocracy. They don't want America to become less powerful they want it to be more powerful. They dont care about me? Then why have accreditation for engineers that require higher standards than other countries? Why give me a security clearance? dumb people are more likely to be violent than smart people. A iron fist government against violent people = uprising then there is civil war and no country. They dont want dumb people.


in the movie, the government had nothing to do with it, we did it to our selves.... it explained it all in the first 15 minutes...

Chazster's photo
Wed 08/03/11 11:20 AM


Yes because he thinks the government wants us to be like idocracy. They don't want America to become less powerful they want it to be more powerful. They dont care about me? Then why have accreditation for engineers that require higher standards than other countries? Why give me a security clearance? dumb people are more likely to be violent than smart people. A iron fist government against violent people = uprising then there is civil war and no country. They dont want dumb people.


in the movie, the government had nothing to do with it, we did it to our selves.... it explained it all in the first 15 minutes...

I know I have seen the movie. What I am saying is a government wouldn't want its people like that. A government is only as good as the people that make up the country.

actionlynx's photo
Wed 08/03/11 11:30 AM
It is all about a fantasy....a fairy tale - being the knight in shining armor battling a lost cause, so one can find glory as a hero. That's what these believers of the conspiracy theory are. You can try to mask it all you want, but inside - at the heart - it is still the same.

This is what I was getting at about finding purpose without rather than looking inside. If you want facts and truth, go out and find hard evidence, like a scientist does, rather than conjecture and speculation. Do not accuse millions of lying unless you can actually prove the lies. If there was a conspiracy this big, then it would be impossible to conceal all the evidence. Mistakes would be made. There would be hard evidence to find.

Go out, and find it.

So far, what "evidence" has been provided that I have taken a look at, I have always seen taken out of context. The reality is warped and skewed to fit the phantom agenda.

Like I mentioned earlier, I majored in History. Research and objective interpretation was something I was trained in. I also studied writing, as I mentioned, and that trains one to have an eye for detail in any medium. The thought process is the same regardless, and meshes well with researching. I also spent three years doing public speaking and traveling to dozens of colleges - including Harvard, Yale, and Dartmouth - to compete in debate tournaments, which only served to further develop critical thought. So, when I read a blog, or an article, or watch a video that is presented to me as "evidence", I am going to judge it's credibility and objectivity. It's just what I have been trained for. If some conspiracy was trying to keep us dumb - if they controlled the colleges, as one person suggested - then why would I have been taught to be a critical thinker? That makes no sense. In fact, since I was allowed to develop critical thought, how come this conspiracy has never tried to recruit me or get rid of me?

Hell, I don't even know why I'm still responding. You cannot convince a righteous man that he is wrong - he chooses to be blind to any truth but his own.

no photo
Wed 08/03/11 11:53 AM
yep ive been looking into this for 30 years and your 5 minutes of investigation has trumped my theories.im sure you know the real reason jfk was shot and why the titanic sank.yet you fail to realize
all the satanic marks everywhere today like patrick swazy said if there was a cure for cancer every doctor would have it and they would be rich.yep satanism comes around once a year around halloween and disapears.your like a little fat kids in a candy store that hasnt discovered the truth about sugar.everything is bright and sugar coated and you feel safe and happy.

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thats because bill gates,warren buffet,and rothchilds dont pay their fair share.
the way they have it set up billionaires will pay less for everything and you will pay more.

bill gates started as a little rich dork he didnt invent windows his mom bought it for him from someone as ibm reqested.

this is how the rich get richer they all have the satanic minus touch.these satanists only deal with other satanists and use unfair compilation so the reg joe cant compete then thell buy his company at bargain discount prices and start it up again. of course this is done in secret.until they own everything. this is why you only see big brand names anymore.this is also why your doctor prescribes you long term pills but cant cure siht.

they keep getting richer while you struggle to make ends meet.

every time you buy anything today you are making satanists more rich.

every store is a chain and owned by very few people at the top.

almost all the products in the store are owned by them to.

all the products have a satanic mark on them arm and hammer,dole,finish,motts,windex,dawn,crest and walmart.......its the sun.

its everywhere
and yet you dont even notice it.





i found out the secret



the secret is



everybodys retarded

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Wed 08/03/11 11:57 AM

yep ive been looking into this for 30 years and your 5 minutes of investigation has trumped my theories.im sure you know the real reason jfk was shot and why the titanic sank.yet you fail to realize
all the satanic marks everywhere today like patrick swazy said if there was a cure for cancer every doctor would have it and they would be rich.yep satanism comes around once a year around halloween and disapears.your like a little fat kids in a candy store that hasnt discovered the truth about sugar.everything is bright and sugar coated and you feel safe and happy.

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thats because bill gates,warren buffet,and rothchilds dont pay their fair share.
the way they have it set up billionaires will pay less for everything and you will pay more.

bill gates started as a little rich dork he didnt invent windows his mom bought it for him from someone as ibm reqested.

this is how the rich get richer they all have the satanic minus touch.these satanists only deal with other satanists and use unfair compilation so the reg joe cant compete then thell buy his company at bargain discount prices and start it up again. of course this is done in secret.until they own everything. this is why you only see big brand names anymore.this is also why your doctor prescribes you long term pills but cant cure siht.

they keep getting richer while you struggle to make ends meet.

every time you buy anything today you are making satanists more rich.

every store is a chain and owned by very few people at the top.

almost all the products in the store are owned by them to.

all the products have a satanic mark on them arm and hammer,dole,finish,motts,windex,dawn,crest and walmart.......its the sun.

its everywhere
and yet you dont even notice it.





i found out the secret



the secret is



everybodys retarded


the reason there isn't a cure for cancer is that all the money is in finding the cure. if they found the cure, all their funding stops.

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Wed 08/03/11 12:06 PM






most of them know more than the experts, if they even watch it, so nothing will really change with the truthers... they spent the last tens whining and crying about this, so to have their world torn apart won't happen... to bad they won't see it with an open mind, but will try to pick it apart....


Those against it are just as guilty if not more so if you ask me. They just keep spouting government rhetoric like they know better, when really they know nothing of what they think.


oh yea, it was me, i planned it all... me and george had a bet, and i won a dollar...insanity at its best...yawn
BTW, you just proved everything i just said, and you didn't even know it...:laughing: :
Not reawlly, but if that's what makes you sleep better at night so be it. The truth will be known eventually, how you feel about it means little.


the truth is known, you won't accept it... did you watch the show?


That "truth" is a lie. And no I have no interest to, I can smell the spin from a mile away. I know enough already from what is posted here alone.


The best way to add intelligent controversial pro vs con rebuttals would be to. Watch and intelligently apply that which you find as faslifications with actual researched science to back up your hypotheisis....write an actual thesis to your premisies with annotated information backing you theories....which in the truthers versions I have not yet seen

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Wed 08/03/11 12:09 PM


yep ive been looking into this for 30 years and your 5 minutes of investigation has trumped my theories.im sure you know the real reason jfk was shot and why the titanic sank.yet you fail to realize
all the satanic marks everywhere today like patrick swazy said if there was a cure for cancer every doctor would have it and they would be rich.yep satanism comes around once a year around halloween and disapears.your like a little fat kids in a candy store that hasnt discovered the truth about sugar.everything is bright and sugar coated and you feel safe and happy.

recycled post

thats because bill gates,warren buffet,and rothchilds dont pay their fair share.
the way they have it set up billionaires will pay less for everything and you will pay more.

bill gates started as a little rich dork he didnt invent windows his mom bought it for him from someone as ibm reqested.

this is how the rich get richer they all have the satanic minus touch.these satanists only deal with other satanists and use unfair compilation so the reg joe cant compete then thell buy his company at bargain discount prices and start it up again. of course this is done in secret.until they own everything. this is why you only see big brand names anymore.this is also why your doctor prescribes you long term pills but cant cure siht.

they keep getting richer while you struggle to make ends meet.

every time you buy anything today you are making satanists more rich.

every store is a chain and owned by very few people at the top.

almost all the products in the store are owned by them to.

all the products have a satanic mark on them arm and hammer,dole,finish,motts,windex,dawn,crest and walmart.......its the sun.

its everywhere
and yet you dont even notice it.





i found out the secret



the secret is



everybodys retarded


the reason there isn't a cure for cancer is that all the money is in finding the cure. if they found the cure, all their funding stops.



wouldnt it be funny if it was the same reason we had terrorism

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