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Topic: Marines Show Off New Stealth Jet
jrbogie Joined Sat 03/01/08 Posts: 2490	Sun 07/31/11 03:11 AM
So? So? Do you really think that we are going to let NATO countries have access to our most technologically advanced plane? Why aren't they flying F-117s? Or B-2s? The F-35 is a nice plane. It has some cool features and innovations. However, it isn't even comparable to the capabilities of the F-22. quite so. the f35 will replace the harrier which the marines use in close air support of ground troops but at a hundred mil per copy an attack helicopter is much more cost effective, imo. yes, the marines have a need for range in which the ah is limited but aerial refuling can solve that issue. and besides, the harrier, like the f18, could be inhanced to remain a viable close air support aircraft far beyond it's ten year projected demise. still, there is no question that the f35 can not be considered to be in the same class as the f22 as an air superiority fighter. in speed to intercept alone, the raptor is twice as fast and it's vectored thrust dogfight maneuver capabilities cannot be matched by the f35. bob gates was right to suspend the project into probation before leaving the pentagon in this time of ecconomic crisis. I agree with slowing down production of the F-22. The F-35 is much cheaper to build and maintain. It is a perfect replacement for the Harrier and even the F-16. I'm not totally sold on replacing the Hornet, however. i don't think we produce the f22 at the moment. what we have does the job and i don't think the cost to maintain the f35 has been shown to be any cheaper than the f22. perhaps projected but projections have been wrong in the past when the military does the projectin'. We are still producing it, but the order was cut down to 187 total and we are at 168 right now. ah, got it. i'd thought bob gates had culled the program in some fashion. guess he just cut the total number of raptors slated to be put into service. thanks. i hate being wrong. lol.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/31/11 08:49 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS

Simonedemidova Joined Mon 11/15/10 Posts: 8952	Sun 07/31/11 08:56 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS until they take our muzzles away

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/31/11 08:58 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS until they take our muzzles away I hope you give them a good bite. You look ferocious with your new dew.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Sun 07/31/11 11:16 AM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Not the place to cry about raising taxes on the people in the highest tax bracket just because they make money. Anyway. I don't think its fair to compare the F-22 to the F-35 as they are not designed for the same function. The F-35 was not designed to be a dog fighter. Stealth/recon/air defense is what the F-35 is made for. F-22 was made to own in dogfights.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 07/31/11 02:30 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Sun 07/31/11 03:40 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. You're not getting the point, they are being hypocrites, they get ALL the benefits, yet do we get any? Nope. It's a total double standard.

jrbogie Joined Sat 03/01/08 Posts: 2490	Sun 07/31/11 03:55 PM
i get tons of benefits. don't have to work the rest of my life. medical paid for. never pay taxes again. all because this great country we live in provided me oportunity. lovin lif in america.

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/31/11 04:28 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 07/31/11 04:37 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. the waste is the biggest problem... it doesn't matter who they tax what if they cannot stop wasteful spending...

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 07/31/11 05:19 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Sun 07/31/11 05:41 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. how are rich people wasting tax payer money?

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Sun 07/31/11 05:51 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. what a load of propaganda that is. We have lost over six thousand troops in these wars and spent 1.2 Trillion for what? sounds to me like we lost allready. what a deal eh? we got TSA at home we are going to slash social spending and just about everything that makes this a descent society. many many americans have no healthcare or meaningfull work but hey we got a new toy for the marines. awsome.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 07/31/11 06:05 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. what a load of propaganda that is. We have lost over six thousand troops in these wars and spent 1.2 Trillion for what? sounds to me like we lost allready. what a deal eh? we got TSA at home we are going to slash social spending and just about everything that makes this a descent society. many many americans have no healthcare or meaningfull work but hey we got a new toy for the marines. awsome. i guess the thousands of workers that have a job building these things would tend to disagree with you...

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 07/31/11 07:02 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. what a load of propaganda that is. We have lost over six thousand troops in these wars and spent 1.2 Trillion for what? sounds to me like we lost allready. what a deal eh? we got TSA at home we are going to slash social spending and just about everything that makes this a descent society. many many americans have no healthcare or meaningfull work but hey we got a new toy for the marines. awsome. i guess the thousands of workers that have a job building these things would tend to disagree with you... I think it's more then thousands. When you figure in all the parts, components, software, support etc. Not to mention the thousands of people Lockheed Skunk Works employs at the R&D center in California, that's not including their produciton facilities in multiple states. Hell that's why they faught to keep producing the F-22 as well because it created and maintained A LOT of jobs.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sun 07/31/11 07:04 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. what a load of propaganda that is. We have lost over six thousand troops in these wars and spent 1.2 Trillion for what? sounds to me like we lost allready. what a deal eh? we got TSA at home we are going to slash social spending and just about everything that makes this a descent society. many many americans have no healthcare or meaningfull work but hey we got a new toy for the marines. awsome. We've lost eh? We haven't had another major terrorist attack on US soil since we took action. Not to mention we took out two insane and criminal regimes (Taliban and Saddam) who committed crimes against humanity on a daily basis and who supported financially, morally and harbored and protected terrorists.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Sun 07/31/11 07:51 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. Tell that to those there who are homeless or have lost family members due to this senseless war.

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Sun 07/31/11 07:53 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. what a load of propaganda that is. We have lost over six thousand troops in these wars and spent 1.2 Trillion for what? sounds to me like we lost allready. what a deal eh? we got TSA at home we are going to slash social spending and just about everything that makes this a descent society. many many americans have no healthcare or meaningfull work but hey we got a new toy for the marines. awsome. We've lost eh? We haven't had another major terrorist attack on US soil since we took action. Not to mention we took out two insane and criminal regimes (Taliban and Saddam) who committed crimes against humanity on a daily basis and who supported financially, morally and harbored and protected terrorists. No but they sure as hell keep us in fear though don't they? Don't you ever notice NOTHING really changes? There's always some new incident going on, that justifies yet ANOTHER invasion on our privacy. Wake up dude, this war is a war on our freedoms more than anything else.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 07/31/11 07:53 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. Tell that to those there who are homeless or have lost family members due to this senseless war. so we make the thousands that depend on the jobs building the aircraft homeless to? we should just add to the problem?

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Sun 07/31/11 08:56 PM Edited by Kleisto on Sun 07/31/11 08:56 PM
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1086465697001/marines-show-off-stealth-f--jet Damn that's awesome, it can just hover then touch down like a chopper. What a tax payer rip off. The government wont raise taxes on the rich, the only group who is doing well in this depresion yet has us convinced that the cure to our economy is to slash social security and and convincing all the women in America to be strippers and whores to feed their families. How much longer will the american people put up with this BS Yup, how aweful they wont penalize someone for doing a good job go figure. a good job wasteing tax payer money. What a waste all that cash to kill some poor people in another country. Yup, poor people who attack us and kill over 4,000 innocent men, women and children, people who commit worse war crimes then Hitler did in Nazi Germany, people who are so twisted by religion that they will torture, behead, beat, use IED's on children and kill. We need ALL the fire power we can get. Tell that to those there who are homeless or have lost family members due to this senseless war. so we make the thousands that depend on the jobs building the aircraft homeless to? we should just add to the problem? If you can deal with the fact that you're supporting a bully in effect leaving innocent people dead or at least homeless, fine by my guest. But I can't.