Topic: Jerome Ersland's Shooting Of Would-Be Robber Sparks Debate | |
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personal opinions aside....legally when the store owner came BACK into the store, it was no longer self defense
Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm. http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d030.htm |
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1-"The shooting occurred off camera, so Parker’s posture at the time remains unclear." No one knows for sure what happened, so you are all assuming. "he will suffer his 'consequences', just as this boy who took NO lives did,,," oh come on, the intent was there he just got foiled. watch the video... it is self explanatory... |
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This whole argument reminds me of the aftermath of Columbine. The kids who did the shooting were called victims as well by the bleeding hearts about a few weeks later and wanted their names included on the memorial. That obviously really rankled some people. The 16 year old came in with intent to rob and since they had a gun, the only assumption the pharmacist could make was they intended to kill. He was not a trained policeman. He was a pharmacist that came in to work and was probably just thinking about getting home to his wife later. These kids came in and terrified everyone, that was clearly their intent at a minimum. He reacted to the situation that he did not plan, expect or want. And now he is going to jail for 1st degree murder. That is the deliberate killing with forethought and planning of another human being. That is the very last thing he should have been charged with. How many here would have had a clear head at that point? He is just an average guy going to work and responding to a terrible situation. Now he is guilty of breaking the law when the kids forced his hand? i know the law... if your life is no longer in danger, you need to stop. they all could have left and waited for the police, but he did not... the extra 5 bullets was not self defence. i no sympathy for the kid, he paid the price for his actions, but the shopowner did not not know the law, and he is paying the price for that... know the laws, and things like this won't happen |
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Doodoo happens. I hope this guy gets off and gets a medal from Congress.
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Doodoo happens. I hope this guy gets off and gets a medal from Congress. 38 years seems way excessive... he broke the law, but they are railroading him too |
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<-----agrees with Moe (did I say that out loud???? )
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<-----agrees with Moe (did I say that out loud???? ) |
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<-----agrees with Moe (did I say that out loud???? ) yeah, I know, that sucks too americans have become too bloodthirsty, ( a generalization, of course, not all americans are bloodthirsty at all ) |
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<-----agrees with Moe (did I say that out loud???? ) yeah, I know, that sucks too americans have become too bloodthirsty, ( a generalization, of course, not all americans are bloodthirsty at all ) what?... |
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<-----agrees with Moe (did I say that out loud???? ) yeah, I know, that sucks too americans have become too bloodthirsty, ( a generalization, of course, not all americans are bloodthirsty at all ) what?... haaaa u know you have to pinch yourself when we agree, dontcha? |
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<-----agrees with Moe (did I say that out loud???? ) yeah, I know, that sucks too americans have become too bloodthirsty, ( a generalization, of course, not all americans are bloodthirsty at all ) what?... haaaa u know you have to pinch yourself when we agree, dontcha? i usually slap myself... |
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