I am only trying to explain why the percentage of rape in the military is higher than the national average. That is a fact. Is it just coincidence? Does the military just attract these kind of people? I think it is because of the way men are trained to be willing to kill someone because they are wearing a different uniform. Because in battle, that is all there is to it. You can't have men on the front line that will be hesitant to pull the trigger because that is another human being on the other side.

That is what it takes to defend our country from those that want to destroy us. If you don't like it, then abolish the military altogether and turn over our country to someone else. But then they will form their own military and the cycle starts all over again...

And this makes you think it's ok to make excuses for rape in the military?

Defending the Rights of the Women Who Defend Us

Today, Reps. Susan Davis (D-Calif.), Robert D. Andrews (D-N.J.), Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.), Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) and Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) stood up for U.S. servicewomen, and submitted an amendment to the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that would end the unconscionable policy of denying rape survivors serving in the military health coverage for abortion care. The all-powerful House of Representatives Committee on Rules will decide this week whether this amendment — protecting the health and rights of U.S. servicewomen — deserves to get a vote.

Sexual assault in the armed services is at crisis levels. Tragically, we see story after story of servicewomen being attacked by their own colleagues. In the fiscal year 2010, according to the Department of Defense, 3,158 military sexual assaults were reported, many of which were reports of rape. As DOD officials have stated, even “one sexual assault is one too many,” but the above number — which is in the thousands — barely scratches the surface. Most servicewomen who have experienced sexual violence do not report the incident. Researchers estimate that up to one-third of women experience an attempted or completed rape during their military service.

In the face of this epidemic, federal law denies servicewomen and military families coverage for abortion care, even in cases of rape or incest. By contrast, the federal bans on abortion coverage for women enrolled in Medicaid, disabled women enrolled in Medicare, federal employees (other than members of the armed services), women who receive health care through the Indian Health Service, and women in federal prisons, all include exceptions for rape survivors. (The only other coverage restriction that doesn’t include a rape exception is the ban on abortion coverage for another group of women serving our country — those in the Peace Corps.) Even extreme and unprecedented anti-choice bills pending in Congress include exceptions for rape and incest.

Every woman should have the health care coverage she needs, regardless of how she pays for it. At the very least our military women deserve the same access to care as all of the other women who get their health insurance through the federal government.

As Undersecretary of Defense Clifford Stanley stated, “the American public should rightfully expect that when their...daughters raise their right hand to serve our great nation, they do so in a culture and environment where dignity, respect and protection prevail.”

U.S. servicewomen put their lives on the line for us every day. We owe it to them to fight for their dignity and respect their choices. Thank you Reps. Davis, Andrews, DeGette, Maloney, Sanchez and Slaughter for acting to correct this injustice.

Tell your representatives that this important issue deserves a vote — it’s time to defend the rights of the women who defend us.


http://www.aclu.org/blog/reproductive-freedom-womens-rights/defending-rights-women-who-defend-us


I believe this is missing the major point.

It is the fact the women are being raped on the job that is the problem here. What kind of men are we allowing in our military anyway? We can identify precursors to rape in men. They are hostile towards women, they are highly judgmental of women believing most to be slut/whores or capable of slut/whore actions, they get off on frightening women, etc... So why can't we weed them out?

Most insurances do not cover abortion so why should the federal insurances be any different? If a woman works in a bakery and gets raped, if she doesn't get the "morning after pill" then she will have to go and pay for the abortion like everyone else does. But again the issue here is that she got raped on the job by a coworker and that it has happened here before, like the military issue.

I do support the women who serve this country but I don't know that I am in agreement with this.

Anyone have an opinion?

Where in the world are you getting this idea????

I have NEVER said rape was ok anywhere either in or out of the military!!!!! I did say the men that do this are weak and cowardly. How is that making an excuse for them????

I was only trying to answer the question I just posed...

Why is the percentage of rapes in the military higher than the national average?

The OP stared off saying that women in the military should be provided medical care for abortions.

I looked at the problem of women being raped in the military.

That is all I have done in this thread.

Tried to answer the question: why is it higher than the national average.

And since it is higher than the national average, maybe we would be better off if women were not allowed in the military.

Where in the world are you getting this idea????

I have NEVER said rape was ok anywhere either in or out of the military!!!!! I did say the men that do this are weak and cowardly. How is that making an excuse for them????

I was only trying to answer the question I just posed...

Why is the percentage of rapes in the military higher than the national average?

Why is the percentage of rapes in the military higher than the national average?

Maybe guys should learn some self control. I slept in a tent with 10 men while in the field; aside some teasing; they never layed a hand on me and respected me for doing my job. In my eyes; these were real men; not cowardly bastards that would rape a woman.

The OP stared off saying that women in the military should be provided medical care for abortions.

I looked at the problem of women being raped in the military.

That is all I have done in this thread.

Tried to answer the question: why is it higher than the national average.

And since it is higher than the national average, maybe we would be better off if women were not allowed in the military.

While I appreciate the sacrifices the military makes for us, at the same time strongly oppose war...perhaps society has placed military personal in the 'god status'. Like I said earlier, kinda like the NBA.
The un-touchable, I can have what I want, you know you want me babay
mentality is a problem. The rules of rape don't change just because your taught to be a fighter. I do feel that teaching men, women to hate, fight, etc. can surly do a number on your head since it isn't natural to hate and want to hurt others.
However..the rules don't change..rape is rape.
You choose this life, live it with dignity. Being a soldier is no excuse to be a rapist!

this statement keeps coming back to me.....
"Anyone that argues that the men should just keep it in their pants is of course correct on these situations. However, pragmatically - that is a pipe dream."

Taking women out of the military so the men won't be tempted, c'mon!
WTF....lets just all wear burka's so the poor horny men won't get a boner and have to rape. Such silly-ness!

The problem won't be solved by removing the women. The problem isn't with the rape victim, it's with the rapist. Take the drugs away from an addict and the problem is only gone until drugs are back in the picture, their still an addict.

Personally I have never had an interest in serving in the military..if a woman chooses that, why should she be punished from serving because someone else may want to rape her, that just makes no sense.

Put them in a burka, take away the make-up, cut the hair, no pretty skirts allowed.....take away all that makes a woman a woman and the problem still is there because the vagina is still there.
Maybe a pocket-p uSs y for all horny military men is needed.

ok, so, ignore the fact that there is rape in the military and just give them access to medical treatment after. Sex crimes have an extremely high recidity rate.

There is another reason to keep women out of the military. Rape really destroys moral.

I was deployed to Bosnia for 7 months. No rapes occurred that I know of but there was a lot of sex and peeping toms. It got to the point that I was ashamed to even realize the person I was looking at was a woman. I felt guilty just for being a man.