Topic: BBC-Bin Laden images were fake
Lpdon's photo
Wed 05/11/11 06:17 PM


We got him

How do you get a ghost? The guy's been dead for years.


He's been dead for days.

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Wed 05/11/11 06:18 PM





Ok what proof do you think the people would need to actually know beyond a reasonable doubt that he was dead or not?


There is nothing that would convince everyone.

The government has lied to us too many times.




yes, way to much


and that is the nature of the beast - they have their own reality

same with the military

they think it's ok to lie to the public if the ends justifies the means (hmmm sounds marxist) and they think if you call a chair a clam, it is a clam

arbeit macht frei


i think they lie when the truth fits better... they just become so accustomed to it..


exactly - that it becomes the way of life - and it goes a little deeper - as an imbued culture - a means of self protection within that culture

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Wed 05/11/11 06:22 PM





Ok what proof do you think the people would need to actually know beyond a reasonable doubt that he was dead or not?


There is nothing that would convince everyone.

The government has lied to us too many times.




yes, way to much


and that is the nature of the beast - they have their own reality

same with the military

they think it's ok to lie to the public if the ends justifies the means (hmmm sounds marxist) and they think if you call a chair a clam, it is a clam

arbeit macht frei


What's that last bit mean?


look up your history of Nazi Germany

"Arbeit Macht Frei" was engraved on the entrances to German Work Camps and Prison Camps during WW2. It means work (labor) will set you free - freedom through labor

done to put a polite face on the forced labor in slave labor death camps where one could be shot for having to use the restroom

a way of calling something other than what it is and believing it is true...like "peackeeping forces"

challengingmind's photo
Wed 05/11/11 06:42 PM
Ok due to scientific and electronical advances..we all know that pics can be doctored as well as video tapes but a live satilite feed can not be just like dna can not be and the only ones that would have that dna would be the military from when they tossed him.

All people can do is either believe they got him or wait and see if he shows up on t.v. again

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 05/11/11 06:49 PM



We got him

How do you get a ghost? The guy's been dead for years.


He's been dead for days.

Incorrect.

http://drleonardcoldwell.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-has-been-dead-for-years/
"In February, 2004, Iranian state radio claimed Osama bin Laden had been captured in Pakistan’s border region with Afghanistan “a long time ago.” Pentagon and Pakistani officials denied the report. “Osama bin Laden has been arrested a long time ago, but Bush is intending to use it for propaganda maneuvering in the presidential election,” the radio report said.

Osama bin Laden died of kidney failure soon after the September 11, 2001, attacks. In 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said bin Laden had kidney disease, and that he had required a dialysis machine when he lived in Afghanistan. That same year, the FBI’s top counterterrorism official, Dale Watson, said, “I personally think he is probably not with us anymore.”



A Taliban leader told the Pakistan Observer on December 21, 2002, that Bin Laden was suffering from a serious lung complication and died in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief, according to Fox News.

Alex Jones was told live on the radio in 2002 by high-level Council on Foreign Relations members that Osama Bin Laden had died of kidney failure in early 2002.

“I have it from high level [sources] from inside the Bush administration…that bin Laden died of natural causes and that his family has given the body to the CIA, that they’re gonna roll him out right before the election, that he’s on ice right now. They will claim they killed him right before the election,” Alex said at the time.

“Jones gave a caution that the intelligence could be disinformation but claimed that his base in Austin was extremely close to the Bush administration and similar information received in the past had been credible,” Paul Joseph Watson wrote in August of 2002.

During the 2004 election, CNN reported that Democratic insiders had been told that George W. Bush was going to use the Bin Laden body as an ace-in-the-hole if he thought he was in danger of losing the 2004 election. This confirmed the evidence that Jones had been given by the CFR and others."

challengingmind's photo
Wed 05/11/11 07:02 PM
Ok if that was true what would be the reasoning of al-quida going along with what just happened if he was already dead?

Peccy's photo
Wed 05/11/11 07:04 PM
I dunno what or who to believe....no biggie though. I have not believed our gubberment since the Carter Administration.drinker drinker

mightymoe's photo
Wed 05/11/11 07:13 PM

Ok if that was true what would be the reasoning of al-quida going along with what just happened if he was already dead?


they probably didn't know...why would they know any more than us? The higher ups might have known, but it would have been to their advantage to let the others think he was alive, so they could use his image and voice to their agenda. if the government told us he was dead then, the whole invasion of iraq would have heard more scrutiny, and then they would have martyred OBL at the wrong time, and made the war even harder. but this whole thing stinks of political posturing, more so than usual...

Kleisto's photo
Wed 05/11/11 07:23 PM

Ok if that was true what would be the reasoning of al-quida going along with what just happened if he was already dead?


What if al-qaeda was government created to begin with? If that was the case, which I believe it is, you'd have your answer.

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Wed 05/11/11 07:28 PM

Frankly I'm so sick of the lies and the conspiracy theories I am to the point that I just don't give a damn what they do or what they tell us they are doing.



Kleisto's photo
Wed 05/11/11 07:35 PM


Frankly I'm so sick of the lies and the conspiracy theories I am to the point that I just don't give a damn what they do or what they tell us they are doing.


You're not the only one, friend of mine is sort of of that mindset anymore. Like they'll do what they'll do no matter what we think about it type thing.

All we can really do is change things for ourselves, even if they won't.

I sometimes watch though just to see what crap they are feeding us now though admittedly. Probably not the best to keep focusing on it so much though.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 05/11/11 09:07 PM
I hate Obama as much as anyone else, and I think he is a compulsive liar but I definately believe this.

To many people including honorable military leaders who have to much integrity to lie about it have confirmed it. Not to mention members of all the political parties that witnessed the operation, who has seen the months of video and year of audio of him in the house and apartment. Not to mention the treasure trove of intelligence we recovered.

Not to mention someone I really trust and know, war hero and former Congressman and chairman of the Armed Services committee and national intelligance committee Duncan Hunter confirmed it as well as his son who is also a war hero and Special Forces(Delta Force) member current Congressman who has seen the evidence and the pictures of him not to mention probably knows the members of the team that took Bin Laden out, being he was a part of that in Afganistan and Iraq.

Not to mention the Internationally Verified Audio and Video clips of Osama Bin Laden making statements and talking about world events as they happen.

TattooedDude81's photo
Wed 05/11/11 09:14 PM
I believe he's still alive or dead...and the United States did not kill him. We probably killed one of his doubles and joyed over it. Either way, it's just going to cause serious retaliation against us so be prepared people.

Kleisto's photo
Wed 05/11/11 09:17 PM

I believe he's still alive or dead...and the United States did not kill him. We probably killed one of his doubles and joyed over it. Either way, it's just going to cause serious retaliation against us so be prepared people.


If you ask me, the entire thing is a setup for another 9-11, aka false flag attack of some sort. With this having been done, and what "al-qaeda" has said about it, it makes them easy scapegoats to pass the blame onto if something happens.


TattooedDude81's photo
Wed 05/11/11 09:22 PM
How about we just start WWIII and get this world over with?! It's heading that way as it is.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 05/11/11 09:30 PM

I believe he's still alive or dead...and the United States did not kill him. We probably killed one of his doubles and joyed over it. Either way, it's just going to cause serious retaliation against us so be prepared people.


He didn't have doubles, that was Saddam.

TattooedDude81's photo
Wed 05/11/11 09:38 PM
I guess I just don't believe a damn word this government of ours tells us. Everything is a conspiracy with them and they're out to **** with our heads in the news.

Lpdon's photo
Wed 05/11/11 09:44 PM
whoa

no photo
Wed 05/11/11 10:06 PM
All we can really do is change things for ourselves, even if they won't.


Yep and that's what I am going to do. I don't much care about the news or who is telling the truth.

Lpdon, I hope you are right. If they are staging it, then we are in pretty sad shape. There will always be conspiracy theories and people making stuff up. I'm not going to worry about any of it.

I don't care.




Lpdon's photo
Wed 05/11/11 10:31 PM

All we can really do is change things for ourselves, even if they won't.


Yep and that's what I am going to do. I don't much care about the news or who is telling the truth.

Lpdon, I hope you are right. If they are staging it, then we are in pretty sad shape. There will always be conspiracy theories and people making stuff up. I'm not going to worry about any of it.

I don't care.






I'm sure im right........This is to big of news and to big of a lie and to big of a chance to take if he was still out there. One video or audio tape would finish Obama and his whole Administration if it was a lie.