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Here's a little bit of nasty, filthy leftist propaganda about Scott Walker that I hadn't heard before. It seems that he found his college year to be quite a challenge. Im'm beginning to wonder if the Republican Party shoud be known as the "Party of C Students".
Which Courses Did College Dropout Scott Walker Flunk?
UPDATE: Governor Scott Walker's war on teachers (and other public employees) has been a catalyst to the public employee unions and many other labor organizations to stand united in a way that Wisconsin has not seen in a long time. Read Paul Soglin's thoughts here, here, and here. Paul Soglin is running for mayor of Madison. Campaign contributions can be made out to Soglin for Mayor and mailed to PO Box 1228, Madison WI 53701. Please include contact information and whether we can use your name as a supporter. Let us know if you can volunteer or sponsor a fundraiser. State law requires you to supply employer information (name and address) if your contribution is over $100 in a calendar year. The campaign website at http://www.soglinformayor.com is able to take online contributions, but please feel free to go old school via the US Postal Service. Original post: Did you know that Scott Walker, who is still leading that pesky Mark Neumann in the polls in the Republican primary for Governor, never finished college? He was a "C" student at Marquette in the late 1980's and dropped out in 1990. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has Walker agreeing that getting the degree is critically important and that he expects his sons to do better than he did as a college student. Walker released a letter from Marquette that showed he attended the school for four years, from 1986 to 1990, and would have needed to stay there for at least another year to get a degree. He had 94 credits and would have needed at least 36 more. The exact number of credits he needed isn't clear because students must take classes in certain areas of study to get degrees. Walker did not return to Marquette in the fall of 1990 when he ran unsuccessfully for the state Assembly. He said he left school after the previous semester because he'd taken a job with the American Red Cross, not because of his political ambition. He won a special election to the Assembly in 1993. Education is an essential ingredient in bolstering the state's economy, he said, adding he believes he can make that case even without a degree himself. He said he expects his two high school-age sons will go to college. "A diploma, I think, is just a necessity to get a job in today's economy," Walker said. "So as governor I'm going to push as many opportunities, affordable opportunities, as possible." Asked how he performed in school, Walker said: "I'd have to go back. That was 20 years ago. I mean, I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose." In comparison, Neumann graduated magna cum laude in 1975 from UW-Whitewater after majoring in mathematics and minoring in coaching. He earned a master's degree in supervision and instruction leadership from UW-River Falls in 1977. Barrett graduated in the top 20% of his class from UW-Madison in 1976 with a major in economics and political science. He went on to get a law degree from UW-Madison in 1980, graduating cum laude. Neumann and Barrett have released their college and graduate school transcripts; Walker has refused to do so. Both Neumann and Barrett's grades were A's and B's. If Walker's campaign says he only had a 2.59 average, and Walker himself admits "I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose," he most likely got B's or even some A's in the classes he was interested in, and some D's or F's in those he treated less seriously. If he wants to be Wisconsin's Governor, who appoints the UW's Board of Regents, members of other higher education governing bodies, and deals with a raft of education funding issues, he should let the voters know whether he passed or flunked basic college courses in math, science, history, or English. - Barry Orton Which Courses Did College Dropout Scott Walker Flunk?UPDATE: Governor Scott Walker's war on teachers (and other public employees) has been a catalyst to the public employee unions and many other labor organizations to stand united in a way that Wisconsin has not seen in a long time. Read Paul Soglin's thoughts here, here, and here.Paul Soglin is running for mayor of Madison. Campaign contributions can be made out to Soglin for Mayor and mailed to PO Box 1228, Madison WI 53701. Please include contact information and whether we can use your name as a supporter. Let us know if you can volunteer or sponsor a fundraiser. State law requires you to supply employer information (name and address) if your contribution is over $100 in a calendar year. The campaign website at http://www.soglinformayor.com is able to take online contributions, but please feel free to go old school via the US Postal Service. Original post:Did you know that Scott Walker, who is still leading that pesky Mark Neumann in the polls in the Republican primary for Governor, never finished college? He was a "C" student at Marquette in the late 1980's and dropped out in 1990. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has Walker agreeing that getting the degree is critically important and that he expects his sons to do better than he did as a college student.Walker released a letter from Marquette that showed he attended the school for four years, from 1986 to 1990, and would have needed to stay there for at least another year to get a degree. He had 94 credits and would have needed at least 36 more. The exact number of credits he needed isn't clear because students must take classes in certain areas of study to get degrees.Walker did not return to Marquette in the fall of 1990 when he ran unsuccessfully for the state Assembly. He said he left school after the previous semester because he'd taken a job with the American Red Cross, not because of his political ambition. He won a special election to the Assembly in 1993.Education is an essential ingredient in bolstering the state's economy, he said, adding he believes he can make that case even without a degree himself. He said he expects his two high school-age sons will go to college."A diploma, I think, is just a necessity to get a job in today's economy," Walker said. "So as governor I'm going to push as many opportunities, affordable opportunities, as possible."Asked how he performed in school, Walker said: "I'd have to go back. That was 20 years ago. I mean, I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose."In comparison,Neumann graduated magna cum laude in 1975 from UW-Whitewater after majoring in mathematics and minoring in coaching. He earned a master's degree in supervision and instruction leadership from UW-River Falls in 1977.Barrett graduated in the top 20% of his class from UW-Madison in 1976 with a major in economics and political science. He went on to get a law degree from UW-Madison in 1980, graduating cum laude.Neumann and Barrett have released their college and graduate school transcripts; Walker has refused to do so. Both Neumann and Barrett's grades were A's and B's.If Walker's campaign says he only had a 2.59 average, and Walker himself admits "I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose," he most likely got B's or even some A's in the classes he was interested in, and some D's or F's in those he treated less seriously. If he wants to be Wisconsin's Governor, who appoints the UW's Board of Regents, members of other higher education governing bodies, and deals with a raft of education funding issues, he should let the voters know whether he passed or flunked basic college courses in math, science, history, or English.- Barry Orton Which Courses Did College Dropout Scott Walker Flunk?UPDATE: Governor Scott Walker's war on teachers (and other public employees) has been a catalyst to the public employee unions and many other labor organizations to stand united in a way that Wisconsin has not seen in a long time. Read Paul Soglin's thoughts here, here, and here.Paul Soglin is running for mayor of Madison. Campaign contributions can be made out to Soglin for Mayor and mailed to PO Box 1228, Madison WI 53701. Please include contact information and whether we can use your name as a supporter. Let us know if you can volunteer or sponsor a fundraiser. State law requires you to supply employer information (name and address) if your contribution is over $100 in a calendar year. The campaign website at http://www.soglinformayor.com is able to take online contributions, but please feel free to go old school via the US Postal Service. Original post:Did you know that Scott Walker, who is still leading that pesky Mark Neumann in the polls in the Republican primary for Governor, never finished college? He was a "C" student at Marquette in the late 1980's and dropped out in 1990. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has Walker agreeing that getting the degree is critically important and that he expects his sons to do better than he did as a college student.Walker released a letter from Marquette that showed he attended the school for four years, from 1986 to 1990, and would have needed to stay there for at least another year to get a degree. He had 94 credits and would have needed at least 36 more. The exact number of credits he needed isn't clear because students must take classes in certain areas of study to get degrees.Walker did not return to Marquette in the fall of 1990 when he ran unsuccessfully for the state Assembly. He said he left school after the previous semester because he'd taken a job with the American Red Cross, not because of his political ambition. He won a special election to the Assembly in 1993.Education is an essential ingredient in bolstering the state's economy, he said, adding he believes he can make that case even without a degree himself. He said he expects his two high school-age sons will go to college."A diploma, I think, is just a necessity to get a job in today's economy," Walker said. "So as governor I'm going to push as many opportunities, affordable opportunities, as possible."Asked how he performed in school, Walker said: "I'd have to go back. That was 20 years ago. I mean, I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose."In comparison,Neumann graduated magna cum laude in 1975 from UW-Whitewater after majoring in mathematics and minoring in coaching. He earned a master's degree in supervision and instruction leadership from UW-River Falls in 1977.Barrett graduated in the top 20% of his class from UW-Madison in 1976 with a major in economics and political science. He went on to get a law degree from UW-Madison in 1980, graduating cum laude.Neumann and Barrett have released their college and graduate school transcripts; Walker has refused to do so. Both Neumann and Barrett's grades were A's and B's.If Walker's campaign says he only had a 2.59 average, and Walker himself admits "I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose," he most likely got B's or even some A's in the classes he was interested in, and some D's or F's in those he treated less seriously. If he wants to be Wisconsin's Governor, who appoints the UW's Board of Regents, members of other higher education governing bodies, and deals with a raft of education funding issues, he should let the voters know whether he passed or flunked basic college courses in math, science, history, or English.- Barry Orton Which Courses Did College Dropout Scott Walker Flunk?UPDATE: Governor Scott Walker's war on teachers (and other public employees) has been a catalyst to the public employee unions and many other labor organizations to stand united in a way that Wisconsin has not seen in a long time. Read Paul Soglin's thoughts here, here, and here.Paul Soglin is running for mayor of Madison. Campaign contributions can be made out to Soglin for Mayor and mailed to PO Box 1228, Madison WI 53701. Please include contact information and whether we can use your name as a supporter. Let us know if you can volunteer or sponsor a fundraiser. State law requires you to supply employer information (name and address) if your contribution is over $100 in a calendar year. The campaign website at http://www.soglinformayor.com is able to take online contributions, but please feel free to go old school via the US Postal Service. Original post:Did you know that Scott Walker, who is still leading that pesky Mark Neumann in the polls in the Republican primary for Governor, never finished college? He was a "C" student at Marquette in the late 1980's and dropped out in 1990. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has Walker agreeing that getting the degree is critically important and that he expects his sons to do better than he did as a college student.Walker released a letter from Marquette that showed he attended the school for four years, from 1986 to 1990, and would have needed to stay there for at least another year to get a degree. He had 94 credits and would have needed at least 36 more. The exact number of credits he needed isn't clear because students must take classes in certain areas of study to get degrees.Walker did not return to Marquette in the fall of 1990 when he ran unsuccessfully for the state Assembly. He said he left school after the previous semester because he'd taken a job with the American Red Cross, not because of his political ambition. He won a special election to the Assembly in 1993.Education is an essential ingredient in bolstering the state's economy, he said, adding he believes he can make that case even without a degree himself. He said he expects his two high school-age sons will go to college."A diploma, I think, is just a necessity to get a job in today's economy," Walker said. "So as governor I'm going to push as many opportunities, affordable opportunities, as possible."Asked how he performed in school, Walker said: "I'd have to go back. That was 20 years ago. I mean, I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose."In comparison,Neumann graduated magna cum laude in 1975 from UW-Whitewater after majoring in mathematics and minoring in coaching. He earned a master's degree in supervision and instruction leadership from UW-River Falls in 1977.Barrett graduated in the top 20% of his class from UW-Madison in 1976 with a major in economics and political science. He went on to get a law degree from UW-Madison in 1980, graduating cum laude.Neumann and Barrett have released their college and graduate school transcripts; Walker has refused to do so. Both Neumann and Barrett's grades were A's and B's.If Walker's campaign says he only had a 2.59 average, and Walker himself admits "I had some classes I was more interested in than others, I suppose," he most likely got B's or even some A's in the classes he was interested in, and some D's or F's in those he treated less seriously. If he wants to be Wisconsin's Governor, who appoints the UW's Board of Regents, members of other higher education governing bodies, and deals with a raft of education funding issues, he should let the voters know whether he passed or flunked basic college courses in math, science, history, or English.- Barry Orton http://www.waxingamerica.com/2010/08/which-courses-did-college-dropout-scott-walker-flunk.html |
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Interesting that this bit of propaganda had as its first paragraph...
Not the College information it was titled to contain but rather an attack on the Governors current attempts to control the budget... Followed right quick with a 'please contribute' to the political ambitions of one Paul Soglin who is running for mayor of Madison, complete with where to mail contributions, A web site address for contruibutions and other such political crap... Most people would not have read very far past that point... PROPAGANDA in an attempt to further the political career of an aspiring career politician. we need a few less of those. |
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we need a few less of those.
Sorry, you're like likely to get a lot more. Do what you have to do. |
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This whole Koch/Walker/Union affair affirms what Ambrose Bierce wrote over a century ago: Politics, n., A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. -Kerry O. Fits the Democrat Republican war also... Unfortunatly that 'war' of 'interests' is tearing this country apart. |
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we need a few less of those.
Sorry, you're like likely to get a lot more. Do what you have to do. Unfortunatly I have but my one chance every few years to vote and THAT is limited to my geographical area except in the case of the President. Therefore many of this stripe of politican gets elected in other areas... Not very many voters in my humble opinion pay close attention to what their politicians REALLY stand for (themselves). |
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we need a few less of those.
Sorry, you're like likely to get a lot more. Do what you have to do. Lots More. 
The Tea Party is crumbling more and more as people across the country get a view of their policies in action. |
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Hello...
Not a single 'tea party' policy is 'in action' yet... We are only 2 months into the first year... Still suffering from the last 2 years. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Sat 02/26/11 09:49 PM
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Are you denying Walker?
Are you denying the spectacle the Tea Publicans are making of themselves in Montana? Are you denying their attempt to uncreate jobs in America with their budget slashing proposals in Wash? |
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Are you denying Walker? Are you denuing the spectacule the Tea Publicans are making of themselves in Montana? Are you denying their attempt to uncreate jobs in America with their budget slashing proposals in Wash? I think the bill in Wisconsin is right in its most part. I don't live in Montana... However 'militias' are protected under the 2nd ammendment. Federal government can only take to itself that which the states allow. (I also know that simply because a 'tea party' HELPED elect a canditate does not mean that person is not a flake. (barny franks is a piss poor example of a democrat). FEDERAL jobs are not market jobs... they are payed for out of my pocket... My pocket is not as deep as congress has assumed they were in the past... As far as market based jobs... Depends upon which economist you talk to as to how many will come or go based upon 'cuts' to money that congress 'thinks' it will get from me. |
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The bill in Wis is Koch.
The Tea Party is only a radical faction of the Pubes, financed by Koch. Walker was a Tea Publican funded largely by Koch. The whole spectacle in Montana rests solely on Tea publican legislators and Tea Publican legislation. |
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In 2010, the union membership rate--the percent of wage and salary workers who were
members of a union--was 11.9 percent, down from 12.3 percent a year earlier, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The number of wage and salary workers be- longing to unions declined by 612,000 to 14.7 million. In 1983, the first year for which comparable union data are available, the union membership rate was 20.1 per- cent, and there were 17.7 million union workers. Wow I reckon them Koch brothers are some way powerful dudes... to have single handely 'punked' all them big powerful unions nation wide... making a big noise does not make you big... It just makes you loud. 2012 will show it. Republicans and Democrats will both realize that their is more to the 'tea parties' than a few 'bandwagon' politicians... and less to the Unions than most people realized. The only actual large Union presense is in the Public sector... Cause GOVERNMENT has had its hands tied by excessive regulations put on it by SEEDY politicians like the last Wisconsin governor... who simpy gave them what they wanted instead of standing up to them like is needed... Cutting how much is 'spent' from the public coffers. |
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Are the Unions dead yet? Just checking. I'll come back later if I smell anything rotting.
The next time a candidate tells you he's going to do something (which Walker did), maybe it would be wise to listen, and get out there and vote your opinion or belief. Barrett and Feingold ran absolutely pathetic campaigns last fall. I waited in shock as they did'nt even make a push at the end. I was like, wow, do these people around here not care that they are basically being ridiculed for their political choices? It was shocking, and in a big time Dem state like Wisconsin even. It's hard to support a political party that only gets it's numbers out to vote when they are upset. /sigh |
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Truth is that collective bargaining is not the reason this bill is being fought so hard...
that is just the smoke used to cover what is really wrong. (Indianna got rid of collective bargaining years ago... Unions did not fail. People still get their 'rights'). What they are really fighting in Wisconsin is the return to actual 'responsible' governance... Making the politician that sits the seat reap the rewards for stupid decisions... Allowing the vote on benefits and 'representation' of the Union to occure once a year... that way any governor that allows the things Wisconsin's last governor allows will have to face the voters before he hands over a massive shortage to the next governor. But what the Unions don't want is for those employees that are under their thumb to have the ability to 'opt' out... Might cause further 'shrinkage'. |
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Edited by
artlo
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Sun 02/27/11 08:39 AM
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(Indianna got rid of collective bargaining years ago... Unions did not fail. People still get their 'rights')
You don't think the dramatic decline in trade unionism over the last 30 years could be classified as a "failure"? In its annual report on union membership, the bureau undercut the longstanding notion that union members are overwhelmingly blue-collar factory workers. It found that membership fell so fast in the private sector in 2009 that the 7.9 million unionized public-sector workers easily outnumbered those in the private sector, where labor’s ranks shrank to 7.4 million, from 8.2 million in 2008. "
You really think that workers still have the same workplace rights they had 30 years ago? You're satisfied to have the right to earn less and less for your efforts than your parents and grandparents (unless, of course, you are in the upper 2%)?
Unions are actually a small percentage of the voting public... roughly 12%... |
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Edited by
artlo
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Sun 02/27/11 09:52 AM
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Here's some polling information from a week ago that I missed
Polling data: Income levels may be the true divide in Wisconsin labor dispute
February 26th, 2011 6:26 pm ET Do you like this Article? Last week's Gallup poll numbers showed a clear majority of Americans opposed to Wisconsin Gov Scott Walker's proposal to strip collective bargaining rights from public union employees. But new data in the poll underscores an angle that goes beyond the partisan divide and suggesst a commonality that has far less to do with politics and ideology than anyone might have anticipated. It turns out that the only income group among those polled by Gallup that favors the governor's proposal to roll back public employee bargaining rights are those who make over $90,000. The median average in the United States is around $50,000. The average salary for a Wisconsin public school teacher is around $48,000. Gallup has crosstabs which provide an income breakdown of their poll, finding the following: Among those who make less than $24,000 annually, 74 percent oppose the proposal, versus only 14 percent who favor it. Among those who make $24,000 to $59,000, 63 percent oppose the proposal, versus only 33 percent who favor it. Among those who make $60,000 to $89,000, 53 percent oppose the proposal, versus only 41 percent who favor it. Among those who make $90,000 and up, 50 percent favor the proposal, versus 47 percent who oppose it. More polling data on this particular front of the Wisconsin labor dispute (which is the central kernel in the union's opposition) is sure to appear (from Gallup, and pollsters both national and in Wisconsin) but the crosstab breakdowns in the Gallup poll raise a tanatlizing possibility that "Walker's proposal to roll back long-accepted bargaining rights may have reframed the debate and refocused the public's attention in a way that is undermining the right's previous advantage on questions involving public employees." Months ago, Politico reported that conservatives were supremely confident they'd be able to make "political targets out of what was once a protected liberal class of teachers, cops, and other public servants." The idea was to make public employees scapegoats for the nation's dramatic economic downturn, which seemed to go hand in hand with a time-honored political PR tactic of identifying a group, demonizing it and making it the enemy as part of the long-term game plan to either defeat it or destroy it. But they may not be such easy targets after all. What may change in the landscape is a growing realization that the more accurate divide in the conservative war against unions isn't political or ideological, but economic. In public reaction to the events in Wisconsin, one finds a strong bipartisan consensus among most income groups that Walker's proposal goes too far and that demonizing the likes of teachers, nurses, peace officers and firefighters may come with a political price. Indeed, several GOP governors have already begun to back away from the most onerous of anti-public union proposals. Some of this may be determined by which states get over their serious budget humps, not just faster, but more sustainably and with an intact public service infrastructure --states like New Jersey, California, Florida and Texas, each carrying their own political brandings in the minds of the public. But if the economic data represents a greater commonality than the ideological or political ones, the governor's gambit of using a budget deficit as a way to try and break the union could backfire on conservatives in a more significant way if the arguement ever shifts from merely "taking away worker's rights" into a more populist "taking away worker's rights while protecting corporations." The idea of firing teachers to balance a budget instead of closing a corporate tax loophole may not poll terribly well. This may not jell in time to decidedly shift the debate in Wisconsin today, but it might at the next election, and if the moment to shift the debate onto that course comes, and Democrats and unions seize on it, conservatives and the GOP could face very serious trouble. By Bruce Maiman http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/polling-data-income-levels-may-be-the-true-divide-wisconsin-labor-dispute#ixzz1FBNa7zZD Here is the Gallup poll that the author relied on for his information http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011_02_25%20WI%20Collective%20Bargaining%20Crosstabs.pdf |
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