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I mean $11.50 an hr is way to much to be paying someone working a drive thru OMG! I guess we're getting down to the short hairs here! This is really where we have come to.
Yea, do the math. What is minimum wage now? like $7. You up it to $11.50 then what? You think people have more buying power? No you just increased the cost of every industry that now pays minimum wage. Those industries are now forced to raise their prices accordingly. Now that $6 meal you used to buy at the drive thru will run you maybe $10. Well for that you could buy a burger at a sit down place. Their prices won't change due to the fact waiters and waitresses make tips and are exempt from minimum wage. Thus the fast food industry loses business due to people not wanting to pay those higher prices and they get shut down. Same could be said for any industry like that. You are right to some degree. but what a smoke screen. min goes up a quarter and a candy bar goes up 15 cents. not realistic. its opertunisim at our expence. You wanna really change this country? Then we need a Grass roots movement to make serving in Public office a SERVICE and not a CAREER!! We need Term Limits from Judges to every senator Rep. in washington or in any state or local govt. Where someone goes thier to try and make a difference instead of after a couple of terms its u pad me I will pad yours. This is IMO the only way we will get this country back to where it once was |
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This is a global economy. You got that right. NAFTA is the ruin of America. Personally, I'm kinda patriotic. Guess that may be obsolete.
U R Right on  NAFTA was a Horrible new trade agreement that made the rich richer and the poor poorer
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Thu 02/17/11 10:26 PM
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Average teachers salary... 40 thousand. Average income nation wide. 30 thousand. Yep teachers are so underpaid... NOT. You are right this is a national problem. It goes way beyond the simple changes trying to be made in Wisconsin. Cuts of budgetary spending are necessary or the states will become insolvent. We can not allow our states to become insolvent so the Federal Government will have to assume their debt... This will cause the Federal Government to become insolvent... simple math. If these cuts are not made the alternative will be to start releasing workers to unemployeement... (causing a swelling of that drain and we are right back to the insolvency above). Economists are responding to this situation as though they are dealing with a recession or depression... This is neither. You can not increase the money supply as has been done in the past because in the past they were dealing with an expandable system... Now however they are dealing with a global system (which means it is now a closed cycle system... there is no expansion possible). Increasing the money supply in a closed cycle system will simply decrease the worth of the entire system. FACT CHECK THAT. OK! SOURCE: US Census Bureau, 2006! (I wonder what it is now. 2011!) Overall Median, Full-time workers, age 25-64 39,509 All K-12 Teachers Median Salary by JobJob National Salary Data All compensation data shown are the gross, national median (50th percentile). High School Teacher $43,369 Elementary School Teacher $40,418 Middle School Teacher $42,311 Special Education Teacher, Preschool, Kindergarten, or Elementary School $41,086 Special Education Teacher, Secondary School $43,926 Secondary School Teacher $42,296 Special Education Teacher, Middle School $42,119 Of course this varies greatly from state to state. |
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Average teachers salary... 40 thousand. Average income nation wide. 30 thousand. Yep teachers are so underpaid... NOT. You are right this is a national problem. It goes way beyond the simple changes trying to be made in Wisconsin. Cuts of budgetary spending are necessary or the states will become insolvent. We can not allow our states to become insolvent so the Federal Government will have to assume their debt... This will cause the Federal Government to become insolvent... simple math. If these cuts are not made the alternative will be to start releasing workers to unemployeement... (causing a swelling of that drain and we are right back to the insolvency above). Economists are responding to this situation as though they are dealing with a recession or depression... This is neither. You can not increase the money supply as has been done in the past because in the past they were dealing with an expandable system... Now however they are dealing with a global system (which means it is now a closed cycle system... there is no expansion possible). Increasing the money supply in a closed cycle system will simply decrease the worth of the entire system. FACT CHECK THAT. OK! SOURCE: US Census Bureau, 2006! (I wonder what it is now. 2011!) Overall Median, Full-time workers, age 25-64 39,509 All K-12 Teachers Median Salary by JobJob National Salary Data All compensation data shown are the gross, national median (50th percentile). High School Teacher $43,369 Elementary School Teacher $40,418 Middle School Teacher $42,311 Special Education Teacher, Preschool, Kindergarten, or Elementary School $41,086 Special Education Teacher, Secondary School $43,926 Secondary School Teacher $42,296 Special Education Teacher, Middle School $42,119 Of course this varies greatly from state to state. thanks.. way way under paid for teaching the future of our country |
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Its like I said, This country is too full of middle men who do nothing!
And dragoness, I DON'T love everybody. If you love people so much why not take some of the street lurker trash into your house if you love everyone so much! There is a reason I learned the hard way to not trust or love everyone! I "love" very few people! Now again it is not just the DNC or the GOP who have failed us. BOTH sides have failed us miserably. Threaten a Union and they all come running but does that make their minority voice right? NO! If you can't live on 40K a year go FUQUE YOURSELF! I have to make due with a LOT less! Bunch of whining azzholes! Get a life! Welcome to the reality of things here! We live in a deregulated economy and speculators are running rough shod over our azzes!  So many effing thick headed god damn idealists ! ! !
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Average teachers salary... 40 thousand. Average income nation wide. 30 thousand. Yep teachers are so underpaid... NOT. You are right this is a national problem. It goes way beyond the simple changes trying to be made in Wisconsin. Cuts of budgetary spending are necessary or the states will become insolvent. We can not allow our states to become insolvent so the Federal Government will have to assume their debt... This will cause the Federal Government to become insolvent... simple math. If these cuts are not made the alternative will be to start releasing workers to unemployeement... (causing a swelling of that drain and we are right back to the insolvency above). Economists are responding to this situation as though they are dealing with a recession or depression... This is neither. You can not increase the money supply as has been done in the past because in the past they were dealing with an expandable system... Now however they are dealing with a global system (which means it is now a closed cycle system... there is no expansion possible). Increasing the money supply in a closed cycle system will simply decrease the worth of the entire system. FACT CHECK THAT. OK! SOURCE: US Census Bureau, 2006! (I wonder what it is now. 2011!) Overall Median, Full-time workers, age 25-64 39,509 All K-12 Teachers Median Salary by JobJob National Salary Data All compensation data shown are the gross, national median (50th percentile). High School Teacher $43,369 Elementary School Teacher $40,418 Middle School Teacher $42,311 Special Education Teacher, Preschool, Kindergarten, or Elementary School $41,086 Special Education Teacher, Secondary School $43,926 Secondary School Teacher $42,296 Special Education Teacher, Middle School $42,119 Of course this varies greatly from state to state. that didnt come through so well basically though, degrees mean alot, public school teachers will usually HAVE to have a bachelor degree and their wage is about in line with the average for those holding bachelor degrees and then the longer they stick in the job and do well at it, the more they have an opportunity for 'promotion'(like any other job) |
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Teachers in Wisconsin?
Where the Unions are so greedy. 2008-2009 Wisconsin Starting Salary---$25,222 Average Salary----$46,390 |
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Simple for one person to make do with forty thousand, I agree
not so simple if that one person has anyone else they are responsible for though.... |
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Teachers in Wisconsin? Where the Unions are so greedy. 2008-2009 Wisconsin Starting Salary---$25,222 Average Salary----$46,390 I wonder how many years of service is the norm to make the average |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Thu 02/17/11 10:41 PM
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Teachers in Wisconsin? Where the Unions are so greedy. 2008-2009 Wisconsin Starting Salary---$25,222 Average Salary----$46,390 I wonder how many years of service is the norm to make the average 10 year increase---21.5% Here's an update. According to a Census Bureau press released dated August 26, 2008, median income in the U.S. is $50,233. |
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Teachers in Wisconsin? Where the Unions are so greedy. 2008-2009 Wisconsin Starting Salary---$25,222 Average Salary----$46,390 I wonder how many years of service is the norm to make the average 10! Here's an update. According to a Census Bureau press released dated August 26, 2008, median income in the U.S. is $50,233. Thanks.. I am not suprised |
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Teachers in Wisconsin? Where the Unions are so greedy. 2008-2009 Wisconsin Starting Salary---$25,222 Average Salary----$46,390 I wonder how many years of service is the norm to make the average 10! Here's an update. According to a Census Bureau press released dated August 26, 2008, median income in the U.S. is $50,233. Thanks.. I am not suprised 10 year increase---21.5% Best I could get. You do the math! |
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Let me know what you get after 10 years Miles.
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Thu 02/17/11 10:51 PM
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Let me know what you get after 10 years Miles. well i only have some college and i do not work any more but i can tell u what i went from when i started my job as a Power company tech in 10 years. started at 27k base after 10 years i was making 55k base no overtime i should add that was 10 years in 95 |
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Let me know what you get after 10 years Miles. well i only have some college and i do not work any more but i can tell u what i went from when i started my job as a Power company tech in 10 years. started at 27k base after 10 years i was making 55k base no overtime LOL Not you. The Wis teachers after 10 years? |
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Let me know what you get after 10 years Miles. well i only have some college and i do not work any more but i can tell u what i went from when i started my job as a Power company tech in 10 years. started at 27k base after 10 years i was making 55k base no overtime LOL Not you. The Wis teachers after 10 years? sorry most know here i sign usually as Miles.. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Thu 02/17/11 10:58 PM
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No. Not what you made.
The Wis Teachers. Starting Salary= $25,222 After 10 years, 21.5%=$5,423 Total after ten years= $30,645 Those greedy *** Unions! They ought to be boiled in tar! |
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Now let's compare those salaries to a state I know doesn't have a Union.
New Mexico Starting Salary=$33,730 Average Salary=$41,637 Increase after 10 years=43.2% Those greedy *** Unions!!!! |
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You'll have to tell me Harmony if they belong to a Union.
Nevada Starting Salary=$27,957 Average Salary=$44,426 Increase after 10 years=22.8% |
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Edited by
solidform
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Thu 02/17/11 11:41 PM
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I want to jump in here, I don't expect a response,,if yo do please be aware that I have been in this business over 30 years in all levels.
In Oregon State: Corporate Employee Independent Contractor Sales Rep Instructor State Certified by the board of education. Manufacturer rep and educator/platform artist so what am I?? I am a licensed Barber, Hairdreser, Estitician, Manicurist and Certified by Oregon Board of Education to teach all the above. Ok..this Industry, is oversaturated, yet at this time there are more schools than ever. you can get federal aid, ussually you dont have to pay it back. for others there are student loans and of course some parents decide to pay the tuition. first of all. what is the pay??? well it varies,,,there is no union that is active for us in Oregon. a Manager of a Corporate hairsalon,,an dI recently was one for 2 years solely to bring my wife at that time into the USA. the uscis does not look very fondly at self employment and they really go back far,,,for me ,,I took a very big leap..I got that corporate Manager job..what does it pay? I will be straight with you even though most wont. it pays minimum wage to sometimes 30 cents above.,.and yes I am talking about them all! in Oregon that comes to 8.40 per hour and usually told that you have to keep your hours between 35 and 40 a week. lol,,,if you are still reading this you could be thinking a lot of things.. Why is it so popular? simple deception...remember,,I worked at the school..I know what is said to new students,,by the way it costs for that full licsence excluding the teaching Certificate about 20,000 sometimes less but you will find that is usually not all the above. why would you pay that much to make minimum wage? why would the federal goverment use your tax dollars to put people in a program that will most likely put them right back on welfare or looking for another job entirely? I have asked these questions many times and thought seriously what would happen if we could have a union? most salons dont have "unity" within the salon itself..let alone a group of salons all joining a common cause. I have decided to go back to being self employed though I keep myself busy I have my own plans. I am putting this in this thread because of the talk of incomes and unions.. I put this in here because I wish to raise the awareness of what is going on in a industry that is highly controlled,policed and yet berated and belittled in so many ways it is just sad. average income 24,000 a year... on the high side it was rated at 35,000 a year. the low was 16,000 a year ( I don't believe any of it) but I will do some more investigation,,and another statistic..how many have just quit and still owe the student loan...I know that about 5 out of ten cashiers I meet tell me they went to beauty school and they just couldn't believe what they ended up with from what they were told. the price of a haircut here is less than it was 30 years ago. there are always exceptions. I am referring to the norm.. the usual situation. lol,,,I will have to take the time to write a thread,,I don't because I don't believe that people really care. some do!,,but they are not the majority. If I have surprised or even raised an eyebrow than yay! if not,,than I am not so surprised. thank you for reading this lengthy post. |
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