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Topic: Teabaggers
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Sat 02/05/11 09:41 AM
I just heard on Stepanie Miller that the next Republican to be teabagged will be Oren Hatch. He's not Conservative enough. This has probably been discussed before - what's the concensus on the Tea Party?

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Sat 02/05/11 09:58 AM



The Tea Party doesn't actually exist yet, its an idea and movement that was quickly infiltrated by the republicans. I hope they get organized, kick out the reps, stand on their own, create their own platform and caucus. We need a third party like fish need water.

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Sat 02/05/11 10:02 AM

I just heard on Stepanie Miller that the next Republican to be teabagged will be Oren Hatch. He's not Conservative enough. This has probably been discussed before - what's the concensus on the Tea Party?
You must have a Slavery Mentanity, can you prove me wrong ?

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Sat 02/05/11 10:14 AM
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I just heard on Stepanie Miller that the next Republican to be teabagged will be Oren Hatch. He's not Conservative enough. This has probably been discussed before - what's the concensus on the Tea Party?
You must have a Slavery Mentanity, can you prove me wrong ?
Huh?

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Sat 02/05/11 10:17 AM
The Tea Party is nothing more than a creation and extension of the Republican Party.

It was created as as a way to hang on to disenchanted Republican voters after 8 yrs of the Bush Administration.
Their most organized portions are funded by Koch Industries and the Koch brothers.



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Sat 02/05/11 10:19 AM
Koch Industries, the private company of the billionaire Koch brothers, is one of the primary sources of carbon pollution in the United States. However, the actual emissions profile of the diversified giant, with its oil and gas, chemicals, cattle, forestry, and synthetics holdings, is unknown, because of the lack of mandatory carbon reporting in the United States. Furthermore, Koch is exempt from the risk disclosures that are standard for public corporations.

The Koch Industries Carbon Footprint Is About 300 Million Tons. With the assumption that Koch has a carbon intensity on the order of oil majors such as Chevron and Exxon Mobil, each billion dollars of revenue corresponds to 2 to 4 million tons of carbon dioxide-equivalent greenhouse gases. Therefore, each year, Koch Industries is likely responsible for about 300 million tons of carbon dioxide pollution every year. Flint Hills Resources, Koch's refining subsidiary, processes 300 million barrels of oil a year. This one company -- with its refining, pipeline, chemical, fertilizer, cattle, and forestry operations -- is involved in up to five percent of the entire United States 7-gigaton carbon footprint.


Koch Climate Denial Is Dirty Self Interest. The virulence of the Koch brothers' opposition to climate policy -- to anything that would make polluters instead of society pay for the cost of their pollution -- is purely a matter of self-interest. The immense profitability of their carbon holdings depends on their freedom to pollute without consequence -- a toxic freedom they have sold to the American public, and particularly the Tea Party faithful organized by the various Koch front groups, as inherent to the American dream. If their pollution was fairly priced in a free-market system such as the cap-and-trade markets the Koch successfully demonized in Washington (but failed in their attempt to do so in California), the Kochs would be facing costs of anywhere from $1 billion to $40 billion a year. Spending well less than $1 billion a year on their political and philanthropic activities, the Kochs have made a brilliant investment to defend their killer business model.

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Sat 02/05/11 10:20 AM
The Carbon Liability Of The Kochs Is Hundreds Of Billions Of Dollars. Over the lifetime of the Koch Industries, as it has grown from a $100 million enterprise built on oil refining in Stalinist Russia to one of the largest private companies in the world, its cumulative carbon footprint rivals that of most nations. Experts estimate that the social cost of carbon -- the true cost to society of global warming pollution -- is between $30 and $300 per ton of carbon dioxide. The potential liability the Kochs face for having knowingly destabilized the global climate system -- and funded a propaganda network to prevent political action to end their pollution -- represents practically the whole of their wealth.

Charles And David Koch Each Have A Carbon Footprint Of 100 Million Tons. The average American has a carbon footprint of 19 tons of carbon dioxide a year -- much greater than the European average of 9 tons, the Chinese average of 5 tons, or India's annual average of 1.4 tons of carbon dioxide per person. However, the annual carbon footprint of the Charles and David Koch is on the order of 100 million tons of carbon dioxide each. Just as their personal wealth is staggeringly greater than that of the average American, so is their damage to this planet.

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Sat 02/05/11 10:20 AM
I guess you are going to post this propaganda in every thread.

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Sat 02/05/11 10:33 AM
It's not propaganda. It's a well known fact!

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Sat 02/05/11 10:36 AM

The Carbon Liability Of The Kochs Is Hundreds Of Billions Of Dollars. Over the lifetime of the Koch Industries, as it has grown from a $100 million enterprise built on oil refining in Stalinist Russia to one of the largest private companies in the world, its cumulative carbon footprint rivals that of most nations. Experts estimate that the social cost of carbon -- the true cost to society of global warming pollution -- is between $30 and $300 per ton of carbon dioxide. The potential liability the Kochs face for having knowingly destabilized the global climate system -- and funded a propaganda network to prevent political action to end their pollution -- represents practically the whole of their wealth.

Charles And David Koch Each Have A Carbon Footprint Of 100 Million Tons. The average American has a carbon footprint of 19 tons of carbon dioxide a year -- much greater than the European average of 9 tons, the Chinese average of 5 tons, or India's annual average of 1.4 tons of carbon dioxide per person. However, the annual carbon footprint of the Charles and David Koch is on the order of 100 million tons of carbon dioxide each. Just as their personal wealth is staggeringly greater than that of the average American, so is their damage to this planet.

Thanks for the input which was truely needed to be cleared up and I for one don't believe what your saying is propaganda but proven facts. Will ppl ever open there eyes to the truth.

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Sat 02/05/11 10:38 AM
We should be hearing something about George Soros any minute, now.

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Sat 02/05/11 10:41 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 02/05/11 10:42 AM
Not only that, but if you look at Ron Paul and the Tea-Parties Philosophies you will find all to be exactly the same.

For years I have been looking for an answer of who is funding Ron Paul's messages.

I believe I have now found it.

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Sat 02/05/11 11:49 AM

It's not propaganda. It's a well known fact!

Propaganda... In this case a use of high index emotional respons words to 'spin' various seperate entities and 'tie' diverse points into one single point.

To whit...'climate denial dodge', 'virulent', 'toxic--- blah, blah, blah, Tea Parties (tie in)...

and the article in and of itself attempts to insinuate that these people are BY THEMSELVES responsible for 'destablizing the entire global climate'

Bwaaa haaa haa haa.

And yes of course then someone had to jump in with a post of 'next we hear of George Sorros' so that any ligitimate mention of that OPOSITE funding source would be derided before it was brought foward...

at least it is FACTUAL to say (contrary to attempting to imply that the entire global climate has been brought down)... MR. Sorros has (and by his own words intends to do it again) brought down entire economic systems in several places world wide.

ever wonder what the colapse of an economic system does to the environment?

as far as the Tea Parties... Yall miss the truth when you spend so much time chasiing the groups that call themeslves Tea parties... Those groups are no more the CORE of the Tea Party than CODE PINK is the CORE of the Democratic party...

APPLES n ORANGES.

But you keep right on passing out the propaganda... Makes me wonder who is paying you.

The more you post propaganda the more people will see it for what it is...

The diverse groups that make up the United States are not as stupid as BOTH of main political extremes think.

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Sat 02/05/11 12:18 PM
And yes of course then someone had to jump in with a post of 'next we hear of George Sorros' so that any ligitimate mention of that OPOSITE funding source would be derided before it was brought foward...

at least it is FACTUAL to say (contrary to attempting to imply that the entire global climate has been brought down)... MR. Sorros has (and by his own words intends to do it again) brought down entire economic systems in several places world wide.
I Googled this claim, and I found it referenced on
only one website I would have thought that this would have been bigger news. At any rate, I watched the video, and I couldn't find a single thing that he actually said that i took issue with. I'm not sure what the person who made the video was listening to. I believe that some of the comments that you cited were made by some bloggers who were contributing to the website. Perhaps you could find a better reference.

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Sat 02/05/11 12:33 PM

And yes of course then someone had to jump in with a post of 'next we hear of George Sorros' so that any ligitimate mention of that OPOSITE funding source would be derided before it was brought foward...

at least it is FACTUAL to say (contrary to attempting to imply that the entire global climate has been brought down)... MR. Sorros has (and by his own words intends to do it again) brought down entire economic systems in several places world wide.
I Googled this claim, and I found it referenced on
only one website I would have thought that this would have been bigger news. At any rate, I watched the video, and I couldn't find a single thing that he actually said that i took issue with. I'm not sure what the person who made the video was listening to. I believe that some of the comments that you cited were made by some bloggers who were contributing to the website. Perhaps you could find a better reference.


Let me guess.
A Conservative web site.

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Sat 02/05/11 12:37 PM
I Googled "theblaze", and here is the first article listed in the retuns
The Blaze
The Blaze is a news, information and opinion site brought to you by Glenn Beck and a dedicated team of writers, journalists & video producers.

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Sat 02/05/11 12:42 PM

The Tea Party is nothing more than a creation and extension of the Republican Party.

It was created as as a way to hang on to disenchanted Republican voters after 8 yrs of the Bush Administration.
Their most organized portions are funded by Koch Industries and the Koch brothers.





That is just complete ignorance!

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Sat 02/05/11 12:50 PM

And yes of course then someone had to jump in with a post of 'next we hear of George Sorros' so that any ligitimate mention of that OPOSITE funding source would be derided before it was brought foward...

at least it is FACTUAL to say (contrary to attempting to imply that the entire global climate has been brought down)... MR. Sorros has (and by his own words intends to do it again) brought down entire economic systems in several places world wide.
I Googled this claim, and I found it referenced on
only one website I would have thought that this would have been bigger news. At any rate, I watched the video, and I couldn't find a single thing that he actually said that i took issue with. I'm not sure what the person who made the video was listening to. I believe that some of the comments that you cited were made by some bloggers who were contributing to the website. Perhaps you could find a better reference.

Look a bit further.

Lots of stuff on him in international web sites... You simply need to enter in the right 'search' critiera...

and he said what he intends to do on a LEFT leaning interview on ABC (I believe) after a suitable 'we are all friends' here leading by the fawning 'journalist'.

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Sat 02/05/11 01:05 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 02/05/11 01:07 PM


The Tea Party is nothing more than a creation and extension of the Republican Party.

It was created as as a way to hang on to disenchanted Republican voters after 8 yrs of the Bush Administration.
Their most organized portions are funded by Koch Industries and the Koch brothers.





That is just complete ignorance!


Fact!

If they're a third party then why not run as such?
Why run on the conservative ticket?

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Sat 02/05/11 01:10 PM
Lots of stuff on him in international web sites... You simply need to enter in the right 'search' critiera...
I believe it's customary for the proponent of a point of view to provide sources and URLs that support his contention. I don't think I should have to do your work for you.

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