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Topic: ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY” PROVEN TRUE….
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Fri 02/04/11 06:03 PM
Cong. Ron Paul: Classified Cable Proves US Ok’d Saddam’s Kuwait Invasion

The SPEAKER pro tempore.

Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Paul) is recognized for 5 minutes.

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, how did the 20-year war get started?

It had been long assumed that the United States Government, shortly before Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, gave Saddam Hussein a green light to attack. A State Department cable recently published by WikiLeaks confirmed that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie did indeed have a conversation with Saddam Hussein one week prior to Iraq’s August 1, 1990, invasion of Kuwait.

Amazingly, the released cable was entitled,

“Saddam’s Message of Friendship to President Bush.” (published below)


In it, Ambassador Glaspie affirmed to Saddam that “the President had instructed her to broaden and deepen our relations with Iraq.” As Saddam Hussein outlined Iraq’s ongoing border dispute with Kuwait, Ambassador Glaspie was quite clear that, “we took no position on these Arab affairs.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/01/31/cong-ron-paul-classified-cable-proves-us-okd-saddams-kuwait-invasion/

I realy like Ron Paul if he wasnt a libertarien I would vote for him.

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Sat 02/05/11 06:44 AM
So basicly gulf war 1 was a pack of lies, gulf two a bigger pack of lies.. estimated costs of the wars is over three trillion, a number so big you cant imagine it. Prior to invasion a barrel of oil was 25 to thirty buck. The single gretest factor to our devistated economy was the rapid price rise in gas.

Lets not even mention the human cost of the Iraq war.

The right wing darling Mr Ron Paul before congress said this

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, how did the 20-year war get started?

It had been long assumed that the United States Government, shortly before Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, gave Saddam Hussein a green light to attack. A State Department cable recently published by WikiLeaks confirmed that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie did indeed have a conversation with Saddam Hussein one week prior to Iraq’s August 1, 1990, invasion of Kuwait.


Ignore it if you choose but when we face tuff economic choices just remember were americas downward slide started, under The republican George Bush with aid of the media and democrats.

You have to ask yourself the what iffs, If we had not given Saddam the impression it was OK to invade Kuwait were would america be today? I have to think we wouldnt be bankrupt and powerless.

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Sat 02/05/11 02:01 PM

So basicly gulf war 1 was a pack of lies, gulf two a bigger pack of lies.. estimated costs of the wars is over three trillion, a number so big you cant imagine it. Prior to invasion a barrel of oil was 25 to thirty buck. The single gretest factor to our devistated economy was the rapid price rise in gas.

Lets not even mention the human cost of the Iraq war.

The right wing darling Mr Ron Paul before congress said this

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, how did the 20-year war get started?

It had been long assumed that the United States Government, shortly before Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, gave Saddam Hussein a green light to attack. A State Department cable recently published by WikiLeaks confirmed that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie did indeed have a conversation with Saddam Hussein one week prior to Iraq’s August 1, 1990, invasion of Kuwait.


Ignore it if you choose but when we face tuff economic choices just remember were americas downward slide started, under The republican George Bush with aid of the media and democrats.

You have to ask yourself the what iffs, If we had not given Saddam the impression it was OK to invade Kuwait were would america be today? I have to think we wouldnt be bankrupt and powerless.



You can not be serious can you? Do you really beleive that? I think our military presence in the gulf trupt's this don't you? I mean our posturing publically prior to the Iraq invasion was a huge conspiracy as well? Come on put your thinking cap on!

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Sat 02/05/11 02:04 PM
I believe this,
Ignore it if you choose but when we face tuff economic choices just remember were americas downward slide started, under The republican George Bush with aid of the media and democrats.


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Sat 02/05/11 02:10 PM

I believe this,
Ignore it if you choose but when we face tuff economic choices just remember were americas downward slide started, under The republican George Bush with aid of the media and democrats.




Barney Frank and democratic legislation caused the housing crash!

I beleive this!

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Sun 02/06/11 02:31 AM


So basicly gulf war 1 was a pack of lies, gulf two a bigger pack of lies.. estimated costs of the wars is over three trillion, a number so big you cant imagine it. Prior to invasion a barrel of oil was 25 to thirty buck. The single gretest factor to our devistated economy was the rapid price rise in gas.

Lets not even mention the human cost of the Iraq war.

The right wing darling Mr Ron Paul before congress said this

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, how did the 20-year war get started?

It had been long assumed that the United States Government, shortly before Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, gave Saddam Hussein a green light to attack. A State Department cable recently published by WikiLeaks confirmed that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie did indeed have a conversation with Saddam Hussein one week prior to Iraq’s August 1, 1990, invasion of Kuwait.


Ignore it if you choose but when we face tuff economic choices just remember were americas downward slide started, under The republican George Bush with aid of the media and democrats.

You have to ask yourself the what iffs, If we had not given Saddam the impression it was OK to invade Kuwait were would america be today? I have to think we wouldnt be bankrupt and powerless.



You can not be serious can you? Do you really beleive that? I think our military presence in the gulf trupt's this don't you? I mean our posturing publically prior to the Iraq invasion was a huge conspiracy as well? Come on put your thinking cap on!
If you had been paying attention durring gulf 1 you would know the rumor was out there on this. Of course the bush rgime lied its *ss off and never kept a transcript of the meeting. Wiki leaks confirms it to be true. Face it.

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Sun 02/06/11 08:17 AM
Wow I guess anything they say must be true. I wish I had that kind of power.

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Sun 02/06/11 08:49 AM
Edited by artlo on Sun 02/06/11 09:14 AM
I realy like Ron Paul if he wasnt a libertarien I would vote for him.
There is some talk in liberal circles about a fantasy ticket for 2012. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Preposterous as it is, it suggests the plausibility odd bedfellows finding substantial common ground.
Barney Frank and democratic legislation caused the housing crash!
!!!!!!!!. Since when does an ill-conceived remark by a single Senator compel lenders to take advantage of outrageously relaxed regulation to create a gigantic bubble based on a bogus housing market? You mentioned democratic legislation. What legislation would that be? This remark is not worth serious consideration. We all know what caused the collapse of the housing market. Still, a person is going to believe what he believes. We do have freedom of religion in this country.

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Sun 02/06/11 11:12 AM

Wow I guess anything they say must be true. I wish I had that kind of power.
The wikileaks documents are not in disupute. I am not realy suprised the corperate media hasnt taken off with this story after all they are complicit in the war frauds. The implications of this simply chill m to the bone.


Not being a big Ron Paul fan being he is a libertarien, he is spot on his efforts to expose this. So who ya think is going to win the super bowl?

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Sun 02/06/11 11:18 AM
So who ya think is going to win the super bowl?
Super bowl. football, right?

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Sun 02/06/11 12:15 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 02/06/11 12:16 PM


Wow I guess anything they say must be true. I wish I had that kind of power.
The wikileaks documents are not in disupute. I am not realy suprised the corperate media hasnt taken off with this story after all they are complicit in the war frauds. The implications of this simply chill m to the bone.


Not being a big Ron Paul fan being he is a libertarien, he is spot on his efforts to expose this. So who ya think is going to win the super bowl?


So you buy into the Koch brothers philosophy of government?

SAD!:cry:

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Sun 02/06/11 06:04 PM


Wow I guess anything they say must be true. I wish I had that kind of power.
The wikileaks documents are not in disupute. I am not realy suprised the corperate media hasnt taken off with this story after all they are complicit in the war frauds. The implications of this simply chill m to the bone.


Not being a big Ron Paul fan being he is a libertarien, he is spot on his efforts to expose this. So who ya think is going to win the super bowl?


I actually like Ron Paul and I am not debating whether or not the documents are true because there is no way for me to know. I am merely pointing out what you said. Its on wikileaks so it must be true.

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Sun 02/06/11 07:28 PM
I see Ron Paul is off his meds again.

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Sun 02/06/11 07:29 PM

I realy like Ron Paul if he wasnt a libertarien I would vote for him.
There is some talk in liberal circles about a fantasy ticket for 2012. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Preposterous as it is, it suggests the plausibility odd bedfellows finding substantial common ground.
Barney Frank and democratic legislation caused the housing crash!
!!!!!!!!. Since when does an ill-conceived remark by a single Senator compel lenders to take advantage of outrageously relaxed regulation to create a gigantic bubble based on a bogus housing market? You mentioned democratic legislation. What legislation would that be? This remark is not worth serious consideration. We all know what caused the collapse of the housing market. Still, a person is going to believe what he believes. We do have freedom of religion in this country.


Wow, two kooks on the same ticket. I doubt Kookinich will stop sueing people long enough to run for President.

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Sun 02/06/11 11:19 PM



So basicly gulf war 1 was a pack of lies, gulf two a bigger pack of lies.. estimated costs of the wars is over three trillion, a number so big you cant imagine it. Prior to invasion a barrel of oil was 25 to thirty buck. The single gretest factor to our devistated economy was the rapid price rise in gas.

Lets not even mention the human cost of the Iraq war.

The right wing darling Mr Ron Paul before congress said this

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, how did the 20-year war get started?

It had been long assumed that the United States Government, shortly before Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, gave Saddam Hussein a green light to attack. A State Department cable recently published by WikiLeaks confirmed that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie did indeed have a conversation with Saddam Hussein one week prior to Iraq’s August 1, 1990, invasion of Kuwait.


Ignore it if you choose but when we face tuff economic choices just remember were americas downward slide started, under The republican George Bush with aid of the media and democrats.

You have to ask yourself the what iffs, If we had not given Saddam the impression it was OK to invade Kuwait were would america be today? I have to think we wouldnt be bankrupt and powerless.



You can not be serious can you? Do you really beleive that? I think our military presence in the gulf trupt's this don't you? I mean our posturing publically prior to the Iraq invasion was a huge conspiracy as well? Come on put your thinking cap on!
If you had been paying attention durring gulf 1 you would know the rumor was out there on this. Of course the bush rgime lied its *ss off and never kept a transcript of the meeting. Wiki leaks confirms it to be true. Face it.
Actually I was paying attention since I am a gulf war 1 vetran!

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Sun 02/06/11 11:37 PM

I realy like Ron Paul if he wasnt a libertarien I would vote for him.
There is some talk in liberal circles about a fantasy ticket for 2012. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Preposterous as it is, it suggests the plausibility odd bedfellows finding substantial common ground.
Barney Frank and democratic legislation caused the housing crash!
!!!!!!!!. Since when does an ill-conceived remark by a single Senator compel lenders to take advantage of outrageously relaxed regulation to create a gigantic bubble based on a bogus housing market? You mentioned democratic legislation. What legislation would that be? This remark is not worth serious consideration. We all know what caused the collapse of the housing market. Still, a person is going to believe what he believes. We do have freedom of religion in this country.


I will elaborate and inform. In 2005 fannie mae and freddie mac under democratic legislation pushed to open their roles to sub prime lending. This opened the flood gates to banks to receive government guranteed loans on subprime lending criteria and then sell as "A" paper loans on wall street. within two years the market was flooded with these loans all backed by the u.s government. The crash came in 2007! This is well documented fact and you can debate if it was the cause "imo" but you cant debate it happend! It's documented fact! The whole premis on my argument is yes subprime was out of control before 2005 but when the government stepped in and told the banks loan tax payer money to sub prime lenders the banks had no skin in the game! In other words if it's a fannie mae loan gone bad who cares the bank says the government is gonna garuntee the loan! So banks wrote them as fast as they could based on the government garuntee and the crash came soon after. Look it up for yourself! But your right there is freedom of religon but sorry bud this happend i watched it go down while in the housing game!

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Mon 02/07/11 04:30 AM
laugh


I realy like Ron Paul if he wasnt a libertarien I would vote for him.
There is some talk in liberal circles about a fantasy ticket for 2012. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Preposterous as it is, it suggests the plausibility odd bedfellows finding substantial common ground.
Barney Frank and democratic legislation caused the housing crash!
!!!!!!!!. Since when does an ill-conceived remark by a single Senator compel lenders to take advantage of outrageously relaxed regulation to create a gigantic bubble based on a bogus housing market? You mentioned democratic legislation. What legislation would that be? This remark is not worth serious consideration. We all know what caused the collapse of the housing market. Still, a person is going to believe what he believes. We do have freedom of religion in this country.


I will elaborate and inform. In 2005 fannie mae and freddie mac under democratic legislation pushed to open their roles to sub prime lending. This opened the flood gates to banks to receive government guranteed loans on subprime lending criteria and then sell as "A" paper loans on wall street. within two years the market was flooded with these loans all backed by the u.s government. The crash came in 2007! This is well documented fact and you can debate if it was the cause "imo" but you cant debate it happend! It's documented fact! The whole premis on my argument is yes subprime was out of control before 2005 but when the government stepped in and told the banks loan tax payer money to sub prime lenders the banks had no skin in the game! In other words if it's a fannie mae loan gone bad who cares the bank says the government is gonna garuntee the loan! So banks wrote them as fast as they could based on the government garuntee and the crash came soon after. Look it up for yourself! But your right there is freedom of religon but sorry bud this happend i watched it go down while in the housing game!
Do you realy think a small % of homeowners took down the entire market? laugh

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Mon 02/07/11 08:34 AM
Edited by artlo on Mon 02/07/11 08:36 AM
will elaborate and inform. In 2005 fannie mae and freddie mac under democratic legislation pushed to open their roles to sub prime lending. This opened the flood gates to banks to receive government guranteed loans on subprime lending criteria and then sell as "A" paper loans on wall street. within two years the market was flooded with these loans all backed by the u.s government. The crash came in 2007! This is well documented fact and you can debate if it was the cause "imo" but you cant debate it happend! It's documented fact! The whole premis on my argument is yes subprime was out of control before 2005 but when the government stepped in and told the banks loan tax payer money to sub prime lenders the banks had no skin in the game! In other words if it's a fannie mae loan gone bad who cares the bank says the government is gonna garuntee the loan! So banks wrote them as fast as they could based on the government garuntee and the crash came soon after. Look it up for yourself! But your right there is freedom of religon but sorry bud this happend i watched it go down while in the housing game!
You still haven't explained Barney Frank's culpability or what particular democratic legislation was involved. You promised to elaborate and inform on the questions I asked.

That being said, your rendition of history is a bit truncated and inaccurate. The ball got rolling with gramm leach bliley (all three are Republicans) with the revocation of Glass-Steagle in 1999 (but I'm sure you know all this). It should also be old information to you that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are, and were Congressionally chartered private GSEs with the mission of securitizing the secondary mortgage market. Both had a long history of working quite well without causing any housing bubbles up until 1999.

It should have been no surprise to anybody that, with George W. Bush at the helm with his anti-regulation philosophy, the mortgage market became rapidly flooded with bogus mortgages bundled and securitized with totally unrealistic speculative instruments. This is all well documented in non-partisan sources. I'll be happy to provide URLs if needed.

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Mon 02/07/11 12:55 PM


So basicly gulf war 1 was a pack of lies, gulf two a bigger pack of lies.. estimated costs of the wars is over three trillion, a number so big you cant imagine it. Prior to invasion a barrel of oil was 25 to thirty buck. The single gretest factor to our devistated economy was the rapid price rise in gas.

Lets not even mention the human cost of the Iraq war.

The right wing darling Mr Ron Paul before congress said this

Mr. PAUL. Mr. Speaker, how did the 20-year war get started?

It had been long assumed that the United States Government, shortly before Iraq invaded Kuwait in August of 1990, gave Saddam Hussein a green light to attack. A State Department cable recently published by WikiLeaks confirmed that U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie did indeed have a conversation with Saddam Hussein one week prior to Iraq’s August 1, 1990, invasion of Kuwait.


Ignore it if you choose but when we face tuff economic choices just remember were americas downward slide started, under The republican George Bush with aid of the media and democrats.

You have to ask yourself the what iffs, If we had not given Saddam the impression it was OK to invade Kuwait were would america be today? I have to think we wouldnt be bankrupt and powerless.



You can not be serious can you? Do you really beleive that? I think our military presence in the gulf trupt's this don't you? I mean our posturing publically prior to the Iraq invasion was a huge conspiracy as well? Come on put your thinking cap on!
Yea its the truth in fact the evidence is so overwelming I would like to take it to court. We basicly gave saddam a green light to invade Kuwait after all we supported him against Iran and he was our henchmen. Kuwait it has been alaged was cross driling into Iraqi oil fields and that was some of the conflict between the two countries. Yea basicly bush betrayed america and Iraq and should be up on war crimes trial.

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Tue 02/08/11 04:58 AM
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!
"Propaganda works by tricking people into believing a lie, then relying on their unwillingness to admit error to imprison them there." -- Michael Rivero

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