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From the Portland Civil Rights Examiner "Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? * April 7th, 2010 8:04 pm PT Here is a simple question for all Americans.... please state, in what other area has the federal government ever regulated inactivity? The answer is: none. Why? Because it’s unconstitutional. The founders believed that a monarch (or dictator or any sort of legislative body) should not have the power to force anyone to do anything. Of course this doesn’t apply to rules governing civil society such as criminal laws against things like rape or thievery, but we aren’t discussing that here. We are discussing being forced to buy something, possibly against your will. In otherwords, inactivity. The federal government, with Obamacare, is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. It is not free. It must be bought and paid for. Poor people will get reimbursed when they file their taxes, but they will still have to fork out the monthly premium. They might get the money back at the end of the year, but they will still be forced to buy it, even if they can’t afford the monthly premium. This seems to be a detail that most liberals gloss over in their rush to declare a human rights victory of some sort. Just where is a 19 year old going to get the 600$ a month to pay for their own health insurance on minimum wage (round that off to 9.25$ an hour for 40 hours a week and that’s 1480$ a month) for a single person? This is 40% that hypothetical persons income. Employers aren’t going to offer it as a benefit of employment if all Americans are forced to buy it themselves. Where is a family of 5 living on an income of 1450$ a month going to get 1200$ a month for Health insurance? Or does the insurance company bill the Fed? But wait, isn't the IRS is going to have the power to garnish tax returns and or force filers to pay an additional fee (which is what exactly?) at tax time if they don't prove they bought health insurance? No one seems to know how this is going to be done unto us. Hold on a minute here, you mean legislators didn’t think of these things? Didn’t they read the thousands of pages in the bill? Oh right, the House of Representatives and Senate didn’t read it before voting on it, it was just too complicated... sorry about that America. We just have to wait until it's implemented to find out.... If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, then nothing will. Let's illustrate just what this means in real life, because Liberals try to liken health insurance to flood insurance or car insurance in the vain attempt to justify it. The absence of logic in these arguments/comparisons is astounding to say the least. A given person chooses to live in a flood plain, perhaps to own and drive a car. A person chooses to do these things, which then creates certain obligations which are known beforehand. So in choosing to enter into these specific actions, it puts a further known burden on that person, by that persons deliberate choice. Did you choose to be born and take your first breath? No, you didn’t, of course not. But because you were born and lived, you must buy health insurance? According to Obamacare you do. The difference is glaringly simple; you can opt out of those other burdens (car insurance or flood insurance) by choosing not to engage in those activities, actions or purchases. But because you breathe and were born in and live in America you must now buy health insurance. Lets stick to the hypothetical car comparison so popular with liberals. If the government can force you to enter a given market... what is to stop the federal government from forcing one to.... buy a GM car? Yea, you have a car already, but because you are an adult with a drivers license and already own a car, what is to stop the federal government from dictating that you must now buy a GM car or you are not a legal American - subject to all of the tactics used by the IRS in collecting monies “owed” as a remuneration for NOT owning a GM? Does that not mean you must now buy a GM/Chrysler car if you intend to ever cross a state boundary? Wait, wouldn’t that mandate that the government can force you to carry papers stating that you also own a GM car if you happen to be driving your second car, a Ford…? And force state border crossings to make sure everyone is in compliance? Yep, you betcha it would. What is the difference between buying health insurance and buying a car? If Obamacare is upheld as a legal and constitutional bill, absolutely nothing. Nothing. You weren’t in the market for a GM (in other words you were inactive in the auto market), but you will be forced into buying one in order to drive from Portland Oregon across the 3500 foot long interstate bridge to Vancouver Washington with out paying a mandated government fine enforced by the IRS which also has the power to take out leins on your home and seize your checking account. If the federal government can regulate inactivity, which is what they are doing with health insurance, then they can dictate that you must do anything they tell you to do - with no limits. Obamacare dictates to those who would not otherwise be in the market for a given item (health insurance), they must enter into it. Would you like to be forced to buy a hand gun under a conservative government? How about be forced to work cleanup duty for 40 hours a year in the local trash dump - a working week out of your life? Or how about buying 6000$ worth of Molybdenum a year? Don’t know what that is? Doesn’t matter, you have to buy it because it’s “for the good of the nation” that you buy it. Enforced by the IRS. You name it; it’s on the table if Obamacare stands. This is what happens in a dictatorship. The dictator tells you what to do, then you must do it or face the wrath of the government agency in charge of compliance. In this case, the IRS . This puts the IRS buying thousands of shotguns into a whole different sort of light now doesn’t it? These simple truths being self evident, how would you like to live in North Korea? Don’t worry about the costs of moving, it will be just the same here in the United States of America, no need to leave home. This is what the slippery slope of Socialism/Communism leads to; the government telling you what to do, what to buy, and when. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think government of the United States of America should have that sort of power." Dianna Cotter End Quote Makes sense to me. poor analogy between buying a car and buying health insurance one is a tangible object one will receive for their funds, one is a proof of ability to pay 'IF' something happens more accurate would be buying car insurance and buying health insurance If something happens, emergency rooms are not permitted to turn us away IF something happens, someone has to treat us for which their will be a cost IF something happens, insurance is some assurance that those bills will be at least partially covered and it is correct that the government could not mandate auto insurance, but the states sure could and , eventually, they did likewise with healthcare, even if the feds are stopped from getting this started now, it will happen eventually, when people feel the affects of their hospitals shutting down and being underfunded and their access to healthcare starts to diminish ON top of remaining expensive enough to send them into bankruptcy or cost them their homes,,, it will catch on, regardless of whether it is fed or state,,, but it cannot be mandatory - they will screw it up so we should have other availanle options just as we do with other insurance in a free economy. You do not have to have car insurance. If you don't drive a car, for example. And the reasons for car insurance really are nto comparable to those for this manadatory HC (which like it or not is unconstitutional). I do not participate in the traditinal western healthcare system - though I have had the opportunity - why should I be forced to buy something I am not using or wanting? It's ridiculous. And, if I do decide I want it, I want the freedom to choose my insurer - let the Gov't compete with industry to provide the best program I think the reaons are extremely comparable , in two words accidents(or in healthcare speak,,,emergencies) and COSTS in either case though, through taxes or mandates, the US will eventuall feel the global pressure to catch up with the rest of the western world and provide affordable care to its citizens,,, Frankly you just refuse to see the evil hiding behind this new "law." When auto insurance became mandatory it wasn't until regulation stepped in and forced the cost down becasue it was RIDICULOUSLY expensive the moment it became law and the industry started gouging us. Paying in ten years for a program that is supposed to last six? Math does not add up. If you don't want to pay for auto insurance you don't drive! Driving is a privilege NOT A RIGHT! Mandatory health care insurance is not a privilege but a demand. On top of that what is the point of fining people who cannot afford it? GEE, LET'S MAKE MORE CRIMINALS! All you want to do is see things through Humanitarian eyes without looking at the practicality and legality of any of this! Can't you see how bogus this program is or are you just so fuqued up over wanting free health care at the expense of others to see this for the shell game it is? There is no protections for us under this plan! it is badly done, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! And here you are trying to be Obama's Ra Ra girl? On top of that since when do Mulattoes qualify as black? Now Obamna is supposedly being hailed for Black Achievement? FUQUE OBAMA! Give the award to Condoleeza Rice who made a positive name for herself in the "White Man's Game!" She IS as black as they come. How about Colon Powell that made it to the highest ranks of the military and he is also FULLY BLACK! To call that half and half president of incompetence 'black' is like accusing a school bus of theft! |
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From the Portland Civil Rights Examiner "Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? * April 7th, 2010 8:04 pm PT Here is a simple question for all Americans.... please state, in what other area has the federal government ever regulated inactivity? The answer is: none. Why? Because it’s unconstitutional. The founders believed that a monarch (or dictator or any sort of legislative body) should not have the power to force anyone to do anything. Of course this doesn’t apply to rules governing civil society such as criminal laws against things like rape or thievery, but we aren’t discussing that here. We are discussing being forced to buy something, possibly against your will. In otherwords, inactivity. The federal government, with Obamacare, is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. It is not free. It must be bought and paid for. Poor people will get reimbursed when they file their taxes, but they will still have to fork out the monthly premium. They might get the money back at the end of the year, but they will still be forced to buy it, even if they can’t afford the monthly premium. This seems to be a detail that most liberals gloss over in their rush to declare a human rights victory of some sort. Just where is a 19 year old going to get the 600$ a month to pay for their own health insurance on minimum wage (round that off to 9.25$ an hour for 40 hours a week and that’s 1480$ a month) for a single person? This is 40% that hypothetical persons income. Employers aren’t going to offer it as a benefit of employment if all Americans are forced to buy it themselves. Where is a family of 5 living on an income of 1450$ a month going to get 1200$ a month for Health insurance? Or does the insurance company bill the Fed? But wait, isn't the IRS is going to have the power to garnish tax returns and or force filers to pay an additional fee (which is what exactly?) at tax time if they don't prove they bought health insurance? No one seems to know how this is going to be done unto us. Hold on a minute here, you mean legislators didn’t think of these things? Didn’t they read the thousands of pages in the bill? Oh right, the House of Representatives and Senate didn’t read it before voting on it, it was just too complicated... sorry about that America. We just have to wait until it's implemented to find out.... If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, then nothing will. Let's illustrate just what this means in real life, because Liberals try to liken health insurance to flood insurance or car insurance in the vain attempt to justify it. The absence of logic in these arguments/comparisons is astounding to say the least. A given person chooses to live in a flood plain, perhaps to own and drive a car. A person chooses to do these things, which then creates certain obligations which are known beforehand. So in choosing to enter into these specific actions, it puts a further known burden on that person, by that persons deliberate choice. Did you choose to be born and take your first breath? No, you didn’t, of course not. But because you were born and lived, you must buy health insurance? According to Obamacare you do. The difference is glaringly simple; you can opt out of those other burdens (car insurance or flood insurance) by choosing not to engage in those activities, actions or purchases. But because you breathe and were born in and live in America you must now buy health insurance. Lets stick to the hypothetical car comparison so popular with liberals. If the government can force you to enter a given market... what is to stop the federal government from forcing one to.... buy a GM car? Yea, you have a car already, but because you are an adult with a drivers license and already own a car, what is to stop the federal government from dictating that you must now buy a GM car or you are not a legal American - subject to all of the tactics used by the IRS in collecting monies “owed” as a remuneration for NOT owning a GM? Does that not mean you must now buy a GM/Chrysler car if you intend to ever cross a state boundary? Wait, wouldn’t that mandate that the government can force you to carry papers stating that you also own a GM car if you happen to be driving your second car, a Ford…? And force state border crossings to make sure everyone is in compliance? Yep, you betcha it would. What is the difference between buying health insurance and buying a car? If Obamacare is upheld as a legal and constitutional bill, absolutely nothing. Nothing. You weren’t in the market for a GM (in other words you were inactive in the auto market), but you will be forced into buying one in order to drive from Portland Oregon across the 3500 foot long interstate bridge to Vancouver Washington with out paying a mandated government fine enforced by the IRS which also has the power to take out leins on your home and seize your checking account. If the federal government can regulate inactivity, which is what they are doing with health insurance, then they can dictate that you must do anything they tell you to do - with no limits. Obamacare dictates to those who would not otherwise be in the market for a given item (health insurance), they must enter into it. Would you like to be forced to buy a hand gun under a conservative government? How about be forced to work cleanup duty for 40 hours a year in the local trash dump - a working week out of your life? Or how about buying 6000$ worth of Molybdenum a year? Don’t know what that is? Doesn’t matter, you have to buy it because it’s “for the good of the nation” that you buy it. Enforced by the IRS. You name it; it’s on the table if Obamacare stands. This is what happens in a dictatorship. The dictator tells you what to do, then you must do it or face the wrath of the government agency in charge of compliance. In this case, the IRS . This puts the IRS buying thousands of shotguns into a whole different sort of light now doesn’t it? These simple truths being self evident, how would you like to live in North Korea? Don’t worry about the costs of moving, it will be just the same here in the United States of America, no need to leave home. This is what the slippery slope of Socialism/Communism leads to; the government telling you what to do, what to buy, and when. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think government of the United States of America should have that sort of power." Dianna Cotter End Quote Makes sense to me. If this were true, there would not be laws about auto insurance, malpractice insurance, injury insurance at public places, workmans comp insuranc, etc... So not really accurate assessment. |
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From the Portland Civil Rights Examiner "Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? * April 7th, 2010 8:04 pm PT Here is a simple question for all Americans.... please state, in what other area has the federal government ever regulated inactivity? The answer is: none. Why? Because it’s unconstitutional. The founders believed that a monarch (or dictator or any sort of legislative body) should not have the power to force anyone to do anything. Of course this doesn’t apply to rules governing civil society such as criminal laws against things like rape or thievery, but we aren’t discussing that here. We are discussing being forced to buy something, possibly against your will. In otherwords, inactivity. The federal government, with Obamacare, is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. It is not free. It must be bought and paid for. Poor people will get reimbursed when they file their taxes, but they will still have to fork out the monthly premium. They might get the money back at the end of the year, but they will still be forced to buy it, even if they can’t afford the monthly premium. This seems to be a detail that most liberals gloss over in their rush to declare a human rights victory of some sort. Just where is a 19 year old going to get the 600$ a month to pay for their own health insurance on minimum wage (round that off to 9.25$ an hour for 40 hours a week and that’s 1480$ a month) for a single person? This is 40% that hypothetical persons income. Employers aren’t going to offer it as a benefit of employment if all Americans are forced to buy it themselves. Where is a family of 5 living on an income of 1450$ a month going to get 1200$ a month for Health insurance? Or does the insurance company bill the Fed? But wait, isn't the IRS is going to have the power to garnish tax returns and or force filers to pay an additional fee (which is what exactly?) at tax time if they don't prove they bought health insurance? No one seems to know how this is going to be done unto us. Hold on a minute here, you mean legislators didn’t think of these things? Didn’t they read the thousands of pages in the bill? Oh right, the House of Representatives and Senate didn’t read it before voting on it, it was just too complicated... sorry about that America. We just have to wait until it's implemented to find out.... If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, then nothing will. Let's illustrate just what this means in real life, because Liberals try to liken health insurance to flood insurance or car insurance in the vain attempt to justify it. The absence of logic in these arguments/comparisons is astounding to say the least. A given person chooses to live in a flood plain, perhaps to own and drive a car. A person chooses to do these things, which then creates certain obligations which are known beforehand. So in choosing to enter into these specific actions, it puts a further known burden on that person, by that persons deliberate choice. Did you choose to be born and take your first breath? No, you didn’t, of course not. But because you were born and lived, you must buy health insurance? According to Obamacare you do. The difference is glaringly simple; you can opt out of those other burdens (car insurance or flood insurance) by choosing not to engage in those activities, actions or purchases. But because you breathe and were born in and live in America you must now buy health insurance. Lets stick to the hypothetical car comparison so popular with liberals. If the government can force you to enter a given market... what is to stop the federal government from forcing one to.... buy a GM car? Yea, you have a car already, but because you are an adult with a drivers license and already own a car, what is to stop the federal government from dictating that you must now buy a GM car or you are not a legal American - subject to all of the tactics used by the IRS in collecting monies “owed” as a remuneration for NOT owning a GM? Does that not mean you must now buy a GM/Chrysler car if you intend to ever cross a state boundary? Wait, wouldn’t that mandate that the government can force you to carry papers stating that you also own a GM car if you happen to be driving your second car, a Ford…? And force state border crossings to make sure everyone is in compliance? Yep, you betcha it would. What is the difference between buying health insurance and buying a car? If Obamacare is upheld as a legal and constitutional bill, absolutely nothing. Nothing. You weren’t in the market for a GM (in other words you were inactive in the auto market), but you will be forced into buying one in order to drive from Portland Oregon across the 3500 foot long interstate bridge to Vancouver Washington with out paying a mandated government fine enforced by the IRS which also has the power to take out leins on your home and seize your checking account. If the federal government can regulate inactivity, which is what they are doing with health insurance, then they can dictate that you must do anything they tell you to do - with no limits. Obamacare dictates to those who would not otherwise be in the market for a given item (health insurance), they must enter into it. Would you like to be forced to buy a hand gun under a conservative government? How about be forced to work cleanup duty for 40 hours a year in the local trash dump - a working week out of your life? Or how about buying 6000$ worth of Molybdenum a year? Don’t know what that is? Doesn’t matter, you have to buy it because it’s “for the good of the nation” that you buy it. Enforced by the IRS. You name it; it’s on the table if Obamacare stands. This is what happens in a dictatorship. The dictator tells you what to do, then you must do it or face the wrath of the government agency in charge of compliance. In this case, the IRS . This puts the IRS buying thousands of shotguns into a whole different sort of light now doesn’t it? These simple truths being self evident, how would you like to live in North Korea? Don’t worry about the costs of moving, it will be just the same here in the United States of America, no need to leave home. This is what the slippery slope of Socialism/Communism leads to; the government telling you what to do, what to buy, and when. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think government of the United States of America should have that sort of power." Dianna Cotter End Quote Makes sense to me. If this were true, there would not be laws about auto insurance, malpractice insurance, injury insurance at public places, workmans comp insuranc, etc... So not really accurate assessment. State law has a different application then federal. If I don't like the law in a state I can go to a different state. Federal government exceeded its legislative authority with the 'mandate' in the health care bill. |
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From the Portland Civil Rights Examiner "Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? * April 7th, 2010 8:04 pm PT Here is a simple question for all Americans.... please state, in what other area has the federal government ever regulated inactivity? The answer is: none. Why? Because it’s unconstitutional. The founders believed that a monarch (or dictator or any sort of legislative body) should not have the power to force anyone to do anything. Of course this doesn’t apply to rules governing civil society such as criminal laws against things like rape or thievery, but we aren’t discussing that here. We are discussing being forced to buy something, possibly against your will. In otherwords, inactivity. The federal government, with Obamacare, is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. It is not free. It must be bought and paid for. Poor people will get reimbursed when they file their taxes, but they will still have to fork out the monthly premium. They might get the money back at the end of the year, but they will still be forced to buy it, even if they can’t afford the monthly premium. This seems to be a detail that most liberals gloss over in their rush to declare a human rights victory of some sort. Just where is a 19 year old going to get the 600$ a month to pay for their own health insurance on minimum wage (round that off to 9.25$ an hour for 40 hours a week and that’s 1480$ a month) for a single person? This is 40% that hypothetical persons income. Employers aren’t going to offer it as a benefit of employment if all Americans are forced to buy it themselves. Where is a family of 5 living on an income of 1450$ a month going to get 1200$ a month for Health insurance? Or does the insurance company bill the Fed? But wait, isn't the IRS is going to have the power to garnish tax returns and or force filers to pay an additional fee (which is what exactly?) at tax time if they don't prove they bought health insurance? No one seems to know how this is going to be done unto us. Hold on a minute here, you mean legislators didn’t think of these things? Didn’t they read the thousands of pages in the bill? Oh right, the House of Representatives and Senate didn’t read it before voting on it, it was just too complicated... sorry about that America. We just have to wait until it's implemented to find out.... If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, then nothing will. Let's illustrate just what this means in real life, because Liberals try to liken health insurance to flood insurance or car insurance in the vain attempt to justify it. The absence of logic in these arguments/comparisons is astounding to say the least. A given person chooses to live in a flood plain, perhaps to own and drive a car. A person chooses to do these things, which then creates certain obligations which are known beforehand. So in choosing to enter into these specific actions, it puts a further known burden on that person, by that persons deliberate choice. Did you choose to be born and take your first breath? No, you didn’t, of course not. But because you were born and lived, you must buy health insurance? According to Obamacare you do. The difference is glaringly simple; you can opt out of those other burdens (car insurance or flood insurance) by choosing not to engage in those activities, actions or purchases. But because you breathe and were born in and live in America you must now buy health insurance. Lets stick to the hypothetical car comparison so popular with liberals. If the government can force you to enter a given market... what is to stop the federal government from forcing one to.... buy a GM car? Yea, you have a car already, but because you are an adult with a drivers license and already own a car, what is to stop the federal government from dictating that you must now buy a GM car or you are not a legal American - subject to all of the tactics used by the IRS in collecting monies “owed” as a remuneration for NOT owning a GM? Does that not mean you must now buy a GM/Chrysler car if you intend to ever cross a state boundary? Wait, wouldn’t that mandate that the government can force you to carry papers stating that you also own a GM car if you happen to be driving your second car, a Ford…? And force state border crossings to make sure everyone is in compliance? Yep, you betcha it would. What is the difference between buying health insurance and buying a car? If Obamacare is upheld as a legal and constitutional bill, absolutely nothing. Nothing. You weren’t in the market for a GM (in other words you were inactive in the auto market), but you will be forced into buying one in order to drive from Portland Oregon across the 3500 foot long interstate bridge to Vancouver Washington with out paying a mandated government fine enforced by the IRS which also has the power to take out leins on your home and seize your checking account. If the federal government can regulate inactivity, which is what they are doing with health insurance, then they can dictate that you must do anything they tell you to do - with no limits. Obamacare dictates to those who would not otherwise be in the market for a given item (health insurance), they must enter into it. Would you like to be forced to buy a hand gun under a conservative government? How about be forced to work cleanup duty for 40 hours a year in the local trash dump - a working week out of your life? Or how about buying 6000$ worth of Molybdenum a year? Don’t know what that is? Doesn’t matter, you have to buy it because it’s “for the good of the nation” that you buy it. Enforced by the IRS. You name it; it’s on the table if Obamacare stands. This is what happens in a dictatorship. The dictator tells you what to do, then you must do it or face the wrath of the government agency in charge of compliance. In this case, the IRS . This puts the IRS buying thousands of shotguns into a whole different sort of light now doesn’t it? These simple truths being self evident, how would you like to live in North Korea? Don’t worry about the costs of moving, it will be just the same here in the United States of America, no need to leave home. This is what the slippery slope of Socialism/Communism leads to; the government telling you what to do, what to buy, and when. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think government of the United States of America should have that sort of power." Dianna Cotter End Quote Makes sense to me. If this were true, there would not be laws about auto insurance, malpractice insurance, injury insurance at public places, workmans comp insuranc, etc... So not really accurate assessment. State law has a different application then federal. If I don't like the law in a state I can go to a different state. Federal government exceeded its legislative authority with the 'mandate' in the health care bill. You are correct. State and federal are quite different. |
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The question I have is that why aren't people upset when their STATE makes it MANDATORY that they buy insurance? What's the difference? You are still being mandated to purchase something. So I guess it's okay if a state takes away your liberty and freedom but we fight like hell if the Federal Government does it? I always laugh at how people are so concerned about their freedoms and liberty but yet they cannot even purchase alcohol in their state/counties. Didn't the constitution repeal prohibition? God wanted us to be happy....that's why he gave us beer. 
That is actually an excellent example. The US had to change the constitution to give itself the power to control booze, then the amendment was repealed which took that power away. The federal government doesn't have the power to tell citizens what they must buy and no one has changed the constitution to allow them to do it. So why aren't you just as upset when you local or State government mandates you buy something or prohibits you from buying something? Isn't state tyranny still tyranny? |
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To clarify about States' Rights...
Any powers not defined within the Constitution as being the province of the Federal Government and not specifically BANNED by the Constitution are handed over to the individual States. Each State then has its own State Constitution or Charter which defines that State's powers as ratified by the founding fathers of the State in question. Therefore, in many cases States can and do pass laws that the Federal government is prohibited from enacting themselves. In the end, States are still subject to the Constitution, and the Supreme Court is allowed to rule on the Constitutionality of State Laws. Since State powers are much less limited than Federal powers by the Constitution, such cases are not as common as others of social or national importance. I feel that every citizen of this country should possess a full copy of the Constitution. Read it. Reference it. Learn it. Understand it. If you don't then you are doing a disservice to yourself and your country. JMHO. |
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The question I have is that why aren't people upset when their STATE makes it MANDATORY that they buy insurance? What's the difference? You are still being mandated to purchase something. So I guess it's okay if a state takes away your liberty and freedom but we fight like hell if the Federal Government does it? I always laugh at how people are so concerned about their freedoms and liberty but yet they cannot even purchase alcohol in their state/counties. Didn't the constitution repeal prohibition? God wanted us to be happy....that's why he gave us beer.
That is actually an excellent example. The US had to change the constitution to give itself the power to control booze, then the amendment was repealed which took that power away. The federal government doesn't have the power to tell citizens what they must buy and no one has changed the constitution to allow them to do it. So why aren't you just as upset when you local or State government mandates you buy something or prohibits you from buying something? Isn't state tyranny still tyranny? No. If the state is acting within the confines of it's constitution it is just doing it's job. can't you see the difference? |
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From the Portland Civil Rights Examiner "Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? * April 7th, 2010 8:04 pm PT Here is a simple question for all Americans.... please state, in what other area has the federal government ever regulated inactivity? The answer is: none. Why? Because it’s unconstitutional. The founders believed that a monarch (or dictator or any sort of legislative body) should not have the power to force anyone to do anything. Of course this doesn’t apply to rules governing civil society such as criminal laws against things like rape or thievery, but we aren’t discussing that here. We are discussing being forced to buy something, possibly against your will. In otherwords, inactivity. The federal government, with Obamacare, is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. It is not free. It must be bought and paid for. Poor people will get reimbursed when they file their taxes, but they will still have to fork out the monthly premium. They might get the money back at the end of the year, but they will still be forced to buy it, even if they can’t afford the monthly premium. This seems to be a detail that most liberals gloss over in their rush to declare a human rights victory of some sort. Just where is a 19 year old going to get the 600$ a month to pay for their own health insurance on minimum wage (round that off to 9.25$ an hour for 40 hours a week and that’s 1480$ a month) for a single person? This is 40% that hypothetical persons income. Employers aren’t going to offer it as a benefit of employment if all Americans are forced to buy it themselves. Where is a family of 5 living on an income of 1450$ a month going to get 1200$ a month for Health insurance? Or does the insurance company bill the Fed? But wait, isn't the IRS is going to have the power to garnish tax returns and or force filers to pay an additional fee (which is what exactly?) at tax time if they don't prove they bought health insurance? No one seems to know how this is going to be done unto us. Hold on a minute here, you mean legislators didn’t think of these things? Didn’t they read the thousands of pages in the bill? Oh right, the House of Representatives and Senate didn’t read it before voting on it, it was just too complicated... sorry about that America. We just have to wait until it's implemented to find out.... If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, then nothing will. Let's illustrate just what this means in real life, because Liberals try to liken health insurance to flood insurance or car insurance in the vain attempt to justify it. The absence of logic in these arguments/comparisons is astounding to say the least. A given person chooses to live in a flood plain, perhaps to own and drive a car. A person chooses to do these things, which then creates certain obligations which are known beforehand. So in choosing to enter into these specific actions, it puts a further known burden on that person, by that persons deliberate choice. Did you choose to be born and take your first breath? No, you didn’t, of course not. But because you were born and lived, you must buy health insurance? According to Obamacare you do. The difference is glaringly simple; you can opt out of those other burdens (car insurance or flood insurance) by choosing not to engage in those activities, actions or purchases. But because you breathe and were born in and live in America you must now buy health insurance. Lets stick to the hypothetical car comparison so popular with liberals. If the government can force you to enter a given market... what is to stop the federal government from forcing one to.... buy a GM car? Yea, you have a car already, but because you are an adult with a drivers license and already own a car, what is to stop the federal government from dictating that you must now buy a GM car or you are not a legal American - subject to all of the tactics used by the IRS in collecting monies “owed” as a remuneration for NOT owning a GM? Does that not mean you must now buy a GM/Chrysler car if you intend to ever cross a state boundary? Wait, wouldn’t that mandate that the government can force you to carry papers stating that you also own a GM car if you happen to be driving your second car, a Ford…? And force state border crossings to make sure everyone is in compliance? Yep, you betcha it would. What is the difference between buying health insurance and buying a car? If Obamacare is upheld as a legal and constitutional bill, absolutely nothing. Nothing. You weren’t in the market for a GM (in other words you were inactive in the auto market), but you will be forced into buying one in order to drive from Portland Oregon across the 3500 foot long interstate bridge to Vancouver Washington with out paying a mandated government fine enforced by the IRS which also has the power to take out leins on your home and seize your checking account. If the federal government can regulate inactivity, which is what they are doing with health insurance, then they can dictate that you must do anything they tell you to do - with no limits. Obamacare dictates to those who would not otherwise be in the market for a given item (health insurance), they must enter into it. Would you like to be forced to buy a hand gun under a conservative government? How about be forced to work cleanup duty for 40 hours a year in the local trash dump - a working week out of your life? Or how about buying 6000$ worth of Molybdenum a year? Don’t know what that is? Doesn’t matter, you have to buy it because it’s “for the good of the nation” that you buy it. Enforced by the IRS. You name it; it’s on the table if Obamacare stands. This is what happens in a dictatorship. The dictator tells you what to do, then you must do it or face the wrath of the government agency in charge of compliance. In this case, the IRS . This puts the IRS buying thousands of shotguns into a whole different sort of light now doesn’t it? These simple truths being self evident, how would you like to live in North Korea? Don’t worry about the costs of moving, it will be just the same here in the United States of America, no need to leave home. This is what the slippery slope of Socialism/Communism leads to; the government telling you what to do, what to buy, and when. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think government of the United States of America should have that sort of power." Dianna Cotter End Quote Makes sense to me. poor analogy between buying a car and buying health insurance one is a tangible object one will receive for their funds, one is a proof of ability to pay 'IF' something happens more accurate would be buying car insurance and buying health insurance If something happens, emergency rooms are not permitted to turn us away IF something happens, someone has to treat us for which their will be a cost IF something happens, insurance is some assurance that those bills will be at least partially covered and it is correct that the government could not mandate auto insurance, but the states sure could and , eventually, they did likewise with healthcare, even if the feds are stopped from getting this started now, it will happen eventually, when people feel the affects of their hospitals shutting down and being underfunded and their access to healthcare starts to diminish ON top of remaining expensive enough to send them into bankruptcy or cost them their homes,,, it will catch on, regardless of whether it is fed or state,,, but it cannot be mandatory - they will screw it up so we should have other availanle options just as we do with other insurance in a free economy. You do not have to have car insurance. If you don't drive a car, for example. And the reasons for car insurance really are nto comparable to those for this manadatory HC (which like it or not is unconstitutional). I do not participate in the traditinal western healthcare system - though I have had the opportunity - why should I be forced to buy something I am not using or wanting? It's ridiculous. And, if I do decide I want it, I want the freedom to choose my insurer - let the Gov't compete with industry to provide the best program I think the reaons are extremely comparable , in two words accidents(or in healthcare speak,,,emergencies) and COSTS in either case though, through taxes or mandates, the US will eventuall feel the global pressure to catch up with the rest of the western world and provide affordable care to its citizens,,, Frankly you just refuse to see the evil hiding behind this new "law." When auto insurance became mandatory it wasn't until regulation stepped in and forced the cost down becasue it was RIDICULOUSLY expensive the moment it became law and the industry started gouging us. Paying in ten years for a program that is supposed to last six? Math does not add up. If you don't want to pay for auto insurance you don't drive! Driving is a privilege NOT A RIGHT! Mandatory health care insurance is not a privilege but a demand. On top of that what is the point of fining people who cannot afford it? GEE, LET'S MAKE MORE CRIMINALS! All you want to do is see things through Humanitarian eyes without looking at the practicality and legality of any of this! Can't you see how bogus this program is or are you just so fuqued up over wanting free health care at the expense of others to see this for the shell game it is? There is no protections for us under this plan! it is badly done, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! And here you are trying to be Obama's Ra Ra girl? On top of that since when do Mulattoes qualify as black? Now Obamna is supposedly being hailed for Black Achievement? FUQUE OBAMA! Give the award to Condoleeza Rice who made a positive name for herself in the "White Man's Game!" She IS as black as they come. How about Colon Powell that made it to the highest ranks of the military and he is also FULLY BLACK! To call that half and half president of incompetence 'black' is like accusing a school bus of theft! actually, read the definition in the census Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "Black, African Am., or Negro," or provide written entries such as African American, Afro American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian. he qualifies, now we can nitpick percentages but Id rather not because I can see where technically since his biological FATHER is actually AFRICAN, he may have more of a PURE line than I do or colin powell who have no biological parent who is actually african(pure) |
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From the Portland Civil Rights Examiner "Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? * April 7th, 2010 8:04 pm PT Here is a simple question for all Americans.... please state, in what other area has the federal government ever regulated inactivity? The answer is: none. Why? Because it’s unconstitutional. The founders believed that a monarch (or dictator or any sort of legislative body) should not have the power to force anyone to do anything. Of course this doesn’t apply to rules governing civil society such as criminal laws against things like rape or thievery, but we aren’t discussing that here. We are discussing being forced to buy something, possibly against your will. In otherwords, inactivity. The federal government, with Obamacare, is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. It is not free. It must be bought and paid for. Poor people will get reimbursed when they file their taxes, but they will still have to fork out the monthly premium. They might get the money back at the end of the year, but they will still be forced to buy it, even if they can’t afford the monthly premium. This seems to be a detail that most liberals gloss over in their rush to declare a human rights victory of some sort. Just where is a 19 year old going to get the 600$ a month to pay for their own health insurance on minimum wage (round that off to 9.25$ an hour for 40 hours a week and that’s 1480$ a month) for a single person? This is 40% that hypothetical persons income. Employers aren’t going to offer it as a benefit of employment if all Americans are forced to buy it themselves. Where is a family of 5 living on an income of 1450$ a month going to get 1200$ a month for Health insurance? Or does the insurance company bill the Fed? But wait, isn't the IRS is going to have the power to garnish tax returns and or force filers to pay an additional fee (which is what exactly?) at tax time if they don't prove they bought health insurance? No one seems to know how this is going to be done unto us. Hold on a minute here, you mean legislators didn’t think of these things? Didn’t they read the thousands of pages in the bill? Oh right, the House of Representatives and Senate didn’t read it before voting on it, it was just too complicated... sorry about that America. We just have to wait until it's implemented to find out.... If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, then nothing will. Let's illustrate just what this means in real life, because Liberals try to liken health insurance to flood insurance or car insurance in the vain attempt to justify it. The absence of logic in these arguments/comparisons is astounding to say the least. A given person chooses to live in a flood plain, perhaps to own and drive a car. A person chooses to do these things, which then creates certain obligations which are known beforehand. So in choosing to enter into these specific actions, it puts a further known burden on that person, by that persons deliberate choice. Did you choose to be born and take your first breath? No, you didn’t, of course not. But because you were born and lived, you must buy health insurance? According to Obamacare you do. The difference is glaringly simple; you can opt out of those other burdens (car insurance or flood insurance) by choosing not to engage in those activities, actions or purchases. But because you breathe and were born in and live in America you must now buy health insurance. Lets stick to the hypothetical car comparison so popular with liberals. If the government can force you to enter a given market... what is to stop the federal government from forcing one to.... buy a GM car? Yea, you have a car already, but because you are an adult with a drivers license and already own a car, what is to stop the federal government from dictating that you must now buy a GM car or you are not a legal American - subject to all of the tactics used by the IRS in collecting monies “owed” as a remuneration for NOT owning a GM? Does that not mean you must now buy a GM/Chrysler car if you intend to ever cross a state boundary? Wait, wouldn’t that mandate that the government can force you to carry papers stating that you also own a GM car if you happen to be driving your second car, a Ford…? And force state border crossings to make sure everyone is in compliance? Yep, you betcha it would. What is the difference between buying health insurance and buying a car? If Obamacare is upheld as a legal and constitutional bill, absolutely nothing. Nothing. You weren’t in the market for a GM (in other words you were inactive in the auto market), but you will be forced into buying one in order to drive from Portland Oregon across the 3500 foot long interstate bridge to Vancouver Washington with out paying a mandated government fine enforced by the IRS which also has the power to take out leins on your home and seize your checking account. If the federal government can regulate inactivity, which is what they are doing with health insurance, then they can dictate that you must do anything they tell you to do - with no limits. Obamacare dictates to those who would not otherwise be in the market for a given item (health insurance), they must enter into it. Would you like to be forced to buy a hand gun under a conservative government? How about be forced to work cleanup duty for 40 hours a year in the local trash dump - a working week out of your life? Or how about buying 6000$ worth of Molybdenum a year? Don’t know what that is? Doesn’t matter, you have to buy it because it’s “for the good of the nation” that you buy it. Enforced by the IRS. You name it; it’s on the table if Obamacare stands. This is what happens in a dictatorship. The dictator tells you what to do, then you must do it or face the wrath of the government agency in charge of compliance. In this case, the IRS . This puts the IRS buying thousands of shotguns into a whole different sort of light now doesn’t it? These simple truths being self evident, how would you like to live in North Korea? Don’t worry about the costs of moving, it will be just the same here in the United States of America, no need to leave home. This is what the slippery slope of Socialism/Communism leads to; the government telling you what to do, what to buy, and when. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think government of the United States of America should have that sort of power." Dianna Cotter End Quote Makes sense to me. poor analogy between buying a car and buying health insurance one is a tangible object one will receive for their funds, one is a proof of ability to pay 'IF' something happens more accurate would be buying car insurance and buying health insurance If something happens, emergency rooms are not permitted to turn us away IF something happens, someone has to treat us for which their will be a cost IF something happens, insurance is some assurance that those bills will be at least partially covered and it is correct that the government could not mandate auto insurance, but the states sure could and , eventually, they did likewise with healthcare, even if the feds are stopped from getting this started now, it will happen eventually, when people feel the affects of their hospitals shutting down and being underfunded and their access to healthcare starts to diminish ON top of remaining expensive enough to send them into bankruptcy or cost them their homes,,, it will catch on, regardless of whether it is fed or state,,, but it cannot be mandatory - they will screw it up so we should have other availanle options just as we do with other insurance in a free economy. You do not have to have car insurance. If you don't drive a car, for example. And the reasons for car insurance really are nto comparable to those for this manadatory HC (which like it or not is unconstitutional). I do not participate in the traditinal western healthcare system - though I have had the opportunity - why should I be forced to buy something I am not using or wanting? It's ridiculous. And, if I do decide I want it, I want the freedom to choose my insurer - let the Gov't compete with industry to provide the best program I think the reaons are extremely comparable , in two words accidents(or in healthcare speak,,,emergencies) and COSTS in either case though, through taxes or mandates, the US will eventuall feel the global pressure to catch up with the rest of the western world and provide affordable care to its citizens,,, Frankly you just refuse to see the evil hiding behind this new "law." When auto insurance became mandatory it wasn't until regulation stepped in and forced the cost down becasue it was RIDICULOUSLY expensive the moment it became law and the industry started gouging us. Paying in ten years for a program that is supposed to last six? Math does not add up. If you don't want to pay for auto insurance you don't drive! Driving is a privilege NOT A RIGHT! Mandatory health care insurance is not a privilege but a demand. On top of that what is the point of fining people who cannot afford it? GEE, LET'S MAKE MORE CRIMINALS! All you want to do is see things through Humanitarian eyes without looking at the practicality and legality of any of this! Can't you see how bogus this program is or are you just so fuqued up over wanting free health care at the expense of others to see this for the shell game it is? There is no protections for us under this plan! it is badly done, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! And here you are trying to be Obama's Ra Ra girl? On top of that since when do Mulattoes qualify as black? Now Obamna is supposedly being hailed for Black Achievement? FUQUE OBAMA! Give the award to Condoleeza Rice who made a positive name for herself in the "White Man's Game!" She IS as black as they come. How about Colon Powell that made it to the highest ranks of the military and he is also FULLY BLACK! To call that half and half president of incompetence 'black' is like accusing a school bus of theft! actually, read the definition in the census Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "Black, African Am., or Negro," or provide written entries such as African American, Afro American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian. he qualifies, now we can nitpick percentages but Id rather not because I can see where technically since his biological FATHER is actually AFRICAN, he may have more of a PURE line than I do or colin powell who have no biological parent who is actually african(pure) the census language actual IS racist. for example black folks are labeled as African American... Whites are labeled as white - non hispanic. since when did I not qualify as an American. I really don't give a bird fart what background the President is. but I am tired of the one sided racism present in this country. I am as American as anyone else that was born here... so then why am I labeld as white - non hispanic? This is an outrage... for an irish boy. |
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From the Portland Civil Rights Examiner "Why is Obamacare unconstitutional? * April 7th, 2010 8:04 pm PT Here is a simple question for all Americans.... please state, in what other area has the federal government ever regulated inactivity? The answer is: none. Why? Because it’s unconstitutional. The founders believed that a monarch (or dictator or any sort of legislative body) should not have the power to force anyone to do anything. Of course this doesn’t apply to rules governing civil society such as criminal laws against things like rape or thievery, but we aren’t discussing that here. We are discussing being forced to buy something, possibly against your will. In otherwords, inactivity. The federal government, with Obamacare, is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. It is not free. It must be bought and paid for. Poor people will get reimbursed when they file their taxes, but they will still have to fork out the monthly premium. They might get the money back at the end of the year, but they will still be forced to buy it, even if they can’t afford the monthly premium. This seems to be a detail that most liberals gloss over in their rush to declare a human rights victory of some sort. Just where is a 19 year old going to get the 600$ a month to pay for their own health insurance on minimum wage (round that off to 9.25$ an hour for 40 hours a week and that’s 1480$ a month) for a single person? This is 40% that hypothetical persons income. Employers aren’t going to offer it as a benefit of employment if all Americans are forced to buy it themselves. Where is a family of 5 living on an income of 1450$ a month going to get 1200$ a month for Health insurance? Or does the insurance company bill the Fed? But wait, isn't the IRS is going to have the power to garnish tax returns and or force filers to pay an additional fee (which is what exactly?) at tax time if they don't prove they bought health insurance? No one seems to know how this is going to be done unto us. Hold on a minute here, you mean legislators didn’t think of these things? Didn’t they read the thousands of pages in the bill? Oh right, the House of Representatives and Senate didn’t read it before voting on it, it was just too complicated... sorry about that America. We just have to wait until it's implemented to find out.... If that doesn't make you uncomfortable, then nothing will. Let's illustrate just what this means in real life, because Liberals try to liken health insurance to flood insurance or car insurance in the vain attempt to justify it. The absence of logic in these arguments/comparisons is astounding to say the least. A given person chooses to live in a flood plain, perhaps to own and drive a car. A person chooses to do these things, which then creates certain obligations which are known beforehand. So in choosing to enter into these specific actions, it puts a further known burden on that person, by that persons deliberate choice. Did you choose to be born and take your first breath? No, you didn’t, of course not. But because you were born and lived, you must buy health insurance? According to Obamacare you do. The difference is glaringly simple; you can opt out of those other burdens (car insurance or flood insurance) by choosing not to engage in those activities, actions or purchases. But because you breathe and were born in and live in America you must now buy health insurance. Lets stick to the hypothetical car comparison so popular with liberals. If the government can force you to enter a given market... what is to stop the federal government from forcing one to.... buy a GM car? Yea, you have a car already, but because you are an adult with a drivers license and already own a car, what is to stop the federal government from dictating that you must now buy a GM car or you are not a legal American - subject to all of the tactics used by the IRS in collecting monies “owed” as a remuneration for NOT owning a GM? Does that not mean you must now buy a GM/Chrysler car if you intend to ever cross a state boundary? Wait, wouldn’t that mandate that the government can force you to carry papers stating that you also own a GM car if you happen to be driving your second car, a Ford…? And force state border crossings to make sure everyone is in compliance? Yep, you betcha it would. What is the difference between buying health insurance and buying a car? If Obamacare is upheld as a legal and constitutional bill, absolutely nothing. Nothing. You weren’t in the market for a GM (in other words you were inactive in the auto market), but you will be forced into buying one in order to drive from Portland Oregon across the 3500 foot long interstate bridge to Vancouver Washington with out paying a mandated government fine enforced by the IRS which also has the power to take out leins on your home and seize your checking account. If the federal government can regulate inactivity, which is what they are doing with health insurance, then they can dictate that you must do anything they tell you to do - with no limits. Obamacare dictates to those who would not otherwise be in the market for a given item (health insurance), they must enter into it. Would you like to be forced to buy a hand gun under a conservative government? How about be forced to work cleanup duty for 40 hours a year in the local trash dump - a working week out of your life? Or how about buying 6000$ worth of Molybdenum a year? Don’t know what that is? Doesn’t matter, you have to buy it because it’s “for the good of the nation” that you buy it. Enforced by the IRS. You name it; it’s on the table if Obamacare stands. This is what happens in a dictatorship. The dictator tells you what to do, then you must do it or face the wrath of the government agency in charge of compliance. In this case, the IRS . This puts the IRS buying thousands of shotguns into a whole different sort of light now doesn’t it? These simple truths being self evident, how would you like to live in North Korea? Don’t worry about the costs of moving, it will be just the same here in the United States of America, no need to leave home. This is what the slippery slope of Socialism/Communism leads to; the government telling you what to do, what to buy, and when. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think government of the United States of America should have that sort of power." Dianna Cotter End Quote Makes sense to me. poor analogy between buying a car and buying health insurance one is a tangible object one will receive for their funds, one is a proof of ability to pay 'IF' something happens more accurate would be buying car insurance and buying health insurance If something happens, emergency rooms are not permitted to turn us away IF something happens, someone has to treat us for which their will be a cost IF something happens, insurance is some assurance that those bills will be at least partially covered and it is correct that the government could not mandate auto insurance, but the states sure could and , eventually, they did likewise with healthcare, even if the feds are stopped from getting this started now, it will happen eventually, when people feel the affects of their hospitals shutting down and being underfunded and their access to healthcare starts to diminish ON top of remaining expensive enough to send them into bankruptcy or cost them their homes,,, it will catch on, regardless of whether it is fed or state,,, but it cannot be mandatory - they will screw it up so we should have other availanle options just as we do with other insurance in a free economy. You do not have to have car insurance. If you don't drive a car, for example. And the reasons for car insurance really are nto comparable to those for this manadatory HC (which like it or not is unconstitutional). I do not participate in the traditinal western healthcare system - though I have had the opportunity - why should I be forced to buy something I am not using or wanting? It's ridiculous. And, if I do decide I want it, I want the freedom to choose my insurer - let the Gov't compete with industry to provide the best program I think the reaons are extremely comparable , in two words accidents(or in healthcare speak,,,emergencies) and COSTS in either case though, through taxes or mandates, the US will eventuall feel the global pressure to catch up with the rest of the western world and provide affordable care to its citizens,,, Frankly you just refuse to see the evil hiding behind this new "law." When auto insurance became mandatory it wasn't until regulation stepped in and forced the cost down becasue it was RIDICULOUSLY expensive the moment it became law and the industry started gouging us. Paying in ten years for a program that is supposed to last six? Math does not add up. If you don't want to pay for auto insurance you don't drive! Driving is a privilege NOT A RIGHT! Mandatory health care insurance is not a privilege but a demand. On top of that what is the point of fining people who cannot afford it? GEE, LET'S MAKE MORE CRIMINALS! All you want to do is see things through Humanitarian eyes without looking at the practicality and legality of any of this! Can't you see how bogus this program is or are you just so fuqued up over wanting free health care at the expense of others to see this for the shell game it is? There is no protections for us under this plan! it is badly done, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! And here you are trying to be Obama's Ra Ra girl? On top of that since when do Mulattoes qualify as black? Now Obamna is supposedly being hailed for Black Achievement? FUQUE OBAMA! Give the award to Condoleeza Rice who made a positive name for herself in the "White Man's Game!" She IS as black as they come. How about Colon Powell that made it to the highest ranks of the military and he is also FULLY BLACK! To call that half and half president of incompetence 'black' is like accusing a school bus of theft! actually, read the definition in the census Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "Black, African Am., or Negro," or provide written entries such as African American, Afro American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian. he qualifies, now we can nitpick percentages but Id rather not because I can see where technically since his biological FATHER is actually AFRICAN, he may have more of a PURE line than I do or colin powell who have no biological parent who is actually african(pure) the census language actual IS racist. for example black folks are labeled as African American... Whites are labeled as white - non hispanic. since when did I not qualify as an American. I really don't give a bird fart what background the President is. but I am tired of the one sided racism present in this country. I am as American as anyone else that was born here... so then why am I labeld as white - non hispanic? This is an outrage... for an irish boy. Hell, everyone (generalization time here) thinks white = Caucasian. I am Italian and Irish and Sicilian. I am a real mix blood but I am mostly of Mediterranean heritage! Not Eastern European. And on top of that I am supposed to be an American. Now if a black man from Puerto Rico knocks up a white woman the kid sure as Lava is hot NOT African American although daddy was black. Hell, the kid would be considered Hispanic. On sight though seeing a black father the kid would be considered African American... People are too eager to toss labels on everything. So where is Afro America on the map exactly??? |
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It's in Mississippi!
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It's either there or in Georgia!
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Race doesn't matter unless people want it to. I am completely white....no mixed racial blood. But, when talking ethnicity, I am American first. After that, I primarily associate with my Irish and Scottish ancestry even though I am more German and English than Scottish. Furthermore, I have French ancestry as well. Rumors of Spanish and Italian too.
Point is, it is all perspective. There lies the problem. We can't tell others how to think, but we can interact and hope they change their minds. I personally believe that African-American is a farce unless the person was born in Africa and became a naturalized citizen. To me, political correctness is B.S. I don't care if I am called white. To me, black is nothing more than a descriptor. Yellow and Red I actually find fault with because I think they are waaaaay off the mark as far as skin color. I judge people based on a personal basis. If I do have a prejudice, I give the individual the benefit of a doubt, and treat them as anyone else I meet. I get upset when I listen to people blatantly speak in racist terms. Race is a problem in this country, but only because individuals perpetuate it. It is time people stopped finding new reasons to divide themselves, and found more reasons to join together as what we are in this country....Americans! |
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Race doesn't matter unless people want it to. I am completely white....no mixed racial blood. But, when talking ethnicity, I am American first. After that, I primarily associate with my Irish and Scottish ancestry even though I am more German and English than Scottish. Furthermore, I have French ancestry as well. Rumors of Spanish and Italian too. Point is, it is all perspective. There lies the problem. We can't tell others how to think, but we can interact and hope they change their minds. I personally believe that African-American is a farce unless the person was born in Africa and became a naturalized citizen. To me, political correctness is B.S. I don't care if I am called white. To me, black is nothing more than a descriptor. Yellow and Red I actually find fault with because I think they are waaaaay off the mark as far as skin color. I judge people based on a personal basis. If I do have a prejudice, I give the individual the benefit of a doubt, and treat them as anyone else I meet. I get upset when I listen to people blatantly speak in racist terms. Race is a problem in this country, but only because individuals perpetuate it. It is time people stopped finding new reasons to divide themselves, and found more reasons to join together as what we are in this country....Americans! Precisely. People have some screwed up ideas about racial Purity. What is so hard about just being American? |
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