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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. |
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The middle east is about to burn soon anyways. Iran is just pushing on Israel until they act and they will.
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when a dictator does nothing for his people and everything for himself, it tends to piss a few people off...obama is learning that the hard way too...
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. dont count on it...the US has and continues to support the current regime...dont expect them to go away any time soon... |
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The middle east is about to burn soon anyways. Iran is just pushing on Israel until they act and they will. Iran will have many problems of its own. No time to f*** with other nations when you have to maintain your hold on your own. |
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. dont count on it...the US has and continues to support the current regime...dont expect them to go away any time soon... Wikileaks tells a different story Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned. The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police. On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html |
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. Jordan should be relativly peacful in transition. Africa shifts to rule by the people... (bet our government freeks). But I think aisa is next. perhaps Yunan or Nei Mongol. News services all seem to 'focus' on where it happened and not often on where it will. |
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The middle east is about to burn soon anyways. Iran is just pushing on Israel until they act and they will. Iran has been provoking Israel for awhile now Israel was going to do a massive airstrike but we freaked and kept the leash on but I don't know how much longer Israel will refrain from attacking, Iran wont hit first well that's if you don't count Hezbollah attacking but Iran is just waiting and that is a sleeping beast I don't want to be going to war with. Israel better be fast and incredibly accurate because America can't be spread to a 3rd front while North Korea continues to provoke the South |
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. Jordan should be relativly peacful in transition. Africa shifts to rule by the people... (bet our government freeks). But I think aisa is next. perhaps Yunan or Nei Mongol. News services all seem to 'focus' on where it happened and not often on where it will. No way is Asia next unless you count Thailand, in Thailand they love the King but he is old and is sick and it will be a sad say when he dies. But other than that I was in Burma last year they spend all there money on nothing but the Military they will keep whatever control they want over that country. And everytime Africa switches to democracy Americas CIA topples the government and puts in a West Supporting Dictator lol so much for the US promoting Democracy and being the leader of the Free World, not when it affects out pockets in a bad way. As far as the Middle East I think things are changing for the good the UAE is like a shining light for all those countries and is setting a great example how an Oil Rich Muslim country can prosper in this Modern World. There's a lot of good going on there. |
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. Jordan should be relativly peacful in transition. Africa shifts to rule by the people... (bet our government freeks). But I think aisa is next. perhaps Yunan or Nei Mongol. News services all seem to 'focus' on where it happened and not often on where it will. No way is Asia next unless you count Thailand, in Thailand they love the King but he is old and is sick and it will be a sad say when he dies. But other than that I was in Burma last year they spend all there money on nothing but the Military they will keep whatever control they want over that country. And everytime Africa switches to democracy Americas CIA topples the government and puts in a West Supporting Dictator lol so much for the US promoting Democracy and being the leader of the Free World, not when it affects out pockets in a bad way. As far as the Middle East I think things are changing for the good the UAE is like a shining light for all those countries and is setting a great example how an Oil Rich Muslim country can prosper in this Modern World. There's a lot of good going on there. Aisa, China in particular... Millions 'migrate' home as they do every year... China 'blocks' access to certain 'ideas' on their internet... Yet those millions have been 'exposed' to those ideas during their year of work... They take that 'exposure' back with them like a rising wind that cannot be 'blocked'... And they take also their observation that a great discrepancy exists between the way their family lives and the way the 'elite' lives in the cities of the 'emperor'... Oh yeah China faces great changes!!! |
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. dont count on it...the US has and continues to support the current regime...dont expect them to go away any time soon... Wikileaks tells a different story Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned. The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police. On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html Yeah! and we know wikileaks won't be a biased source. |
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. You may be right. There has been explosive growth in population without the corresponding increase in jobs which leaves a lot of people sitting around with nothing to do. |
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"And everytime Africa switches to democracy Americas CIA topples the government and puts in a West Supporting Dictator lol so much for the US promoting Democracy and being the leader of the Free World, not when it affects out pockets in a bad way."
Current mission profile for CIA is focused upon 'anti-terrorist' activities... this is where their 'funding' is concentrated at this time... by the time they could 'refocus' on emerging democracies in africa it will be to late to interfere without a 'high cost' shift in funding. Also... Given the spread of Chinese influence in Africa emerging democratic rule would be in the best interests of the United States... Bet we encourage them for that reason. China has a better chance of dealing with 'dictators' than with democratically ruled nations... Their influence would not be as strong when multiple voices need to be considered. |
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Adventure I was talking specifically when in the Congo a democratic leader was elected but he was anti west , so the CIA had him killed and put in a dictator that supported the west.
But China is more socialist then you think , they are making great strides they left Hong Kong and Macao the way they were when the colonies were turned under Chinese control, China is experimenting with democracy in smaller regions and growing fast and coming in strong in this modern world and China is making great relations with Africa because there is so much untapped resources there that China needs for its close to 2 billion people in these next decades, so expect to see Africa change a lot in these coming years and invest a lot and set up more military presences in Africa nations |
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Adventure I was talking specifically when in the Congo a democratic leader was elected but he was anti west , so the CIA had him killed and put in a dictator that supported the west. But China is more socialist then you think , they are making great strides they left Hong Kong and Macao the way they were when the colonies were turned under Chinese control, China is experimenting with democracy in smaller regions and growing fast and coming in strong in this modern world and China is making great relations with Africa because there is so much untapped resources there that China needs for its close to 2 billion people in these next decades, so expect to see Africa change a lot in these coming years and invest a lot and set up more military presences in Africa nations Aye... China has 'socialism' at the level of the masses, state capitolism at the mid to upper ranges and despotism at the 'elite' level... All of which the people are smart enough to see... and resent... Add to this the ancient 'roots' of the culture show a tendancy to 'correct' from the bottom when the 'emperor' becomes to isolated in his 'forbidden city'. China is in for some very big changes this decade. Because the dragon has made action that was not proper in a time when he should have retired to the water... |
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All I see is a bright future for China their relations with Taiwan are getting better and if they can manage to manage resources then were looking at the new strongest country in 5 years, some argue(and I am one of them)that china is the strongest now.
Mao did a lot of things but I don't know if a democracy is what is best for 1.6 billion people to be honest. I am blessed to be able to do what I want but and have had the freedom to see the world but people in China have those same rights if they can find a way to afford it. Back to Egypt if the president doesn't resign you think this is going to only get worst? |
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I have no idea.
I am not in Egypt. I am but an observer. I would actually be looking further south for more of the same. |
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Egypt is slowly descending into anarchy. Right now they are in a strange teetering where on one side they regain order and the other they fall completely into all out anarchy. Their military will have to step in. Chances the ruling body will allow more representation in his court if the military still backs him. A small concession can go along way. BUT likewise the people may want him to completely step down and if he has military backing this will lead to blood shed on a large scale. Bear in mind Egypt is largely Coptic Christian with some Islam but likewise some of the old religions still prevail as well. There are active temples to the gods in Egypt. Once Anarchy happens then Christian and Islam will clash HARD! Order will be much harder to restore.
Now thankfully Egypt is a civilized nation and have been expressing social anger but so far the violence has been minimal in comparison. Likewise Egypt is not rolling tanks over crowds of people. You can bet money China is paying to incite some of the unrest there too! Too bad something like this doesn't happen to the Ayatollahs in Iran! |
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Egypt is slowly descending into anarchy. Right now they are in a strange teetering where on one side they regain order and the other they fall completely into all out anarchy. Their military will have to step in. Chances the ruling body will allow more representation in his court if the military still backs him. A small concession can go along way. BUT likewise the people may want him to completely step down and if he has military backing this will lead to blood shed on a large scale. Bear in mind Egypt is largely Coptic Christian with some Islam but likewise some of the old religions still prevail as well. There are active temples to the gods in Egypt. Once Anarchy happens then Christian and Islam will clash HARD! Order will be much harder to restore. Now thankfully Egypt is a civilized nation and have been expressing social anger but so far the violence has been minimal in comparison. Likewise Egypt is not rolling tanks over crowds of people. You can bet money China is paying to incite some of the unrest there too! Too bad something like this doesn't happen to the Ayatollahs in Iran! Why is China involved in this can you explain what connection you have to make that statement? |
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I think we are watching the beginning of the end in regards to the dictatorships and monarchies that run most of the countries in the middle east. I don't think any of them are safe now. Jordan is next. The protesters are backed by the Muslim Brotherhood. Expect Egypt to turn into an Islamic Theocracy, like Iran. It's troubling that Obama didn't support the protesters fighting for democracy in Iran, but he supports the overthrow on the Egyptian government. |
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