Topic: do you believe in the Illuminati?
Kleisto's photo
Mon 01/24/11 06:08 PM

I know a 'mason' whenever I ask what they do he just says 'betters the world' cant get a straight answer to save my life from him.

he reminds me of one of those old school harlem jazz cats sorta fellas.

*shrug*


There's probably a reason for that, and the scary thing is some of these people actually THINK they are really doing good.

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Mon 01/24/11 08:45 PM


I know a 'mason' whenever I ask what they do he just says 'betters the world' cant get a straight answer to save my life from him.

he reminds me of one of those old school harlem jazz cats sorta fellas.

*shrug*


There's probably a reason for that, and the scary thing is some of these people actually THINK they are really doing good.


I know..it's a shame

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Mon 01/24/11 09:03 PM


Know Illamanti...People cant keep a secret.


Not if you got the money and power to silence said blabbermouths......




Fame is an equally or more powerful motivator. So is revenge.

Kleisto's photo
Mon 01/24/11 09:33 PM



Know Illamanti...People cant keep a secret.


Not if you got the money and power to silence said blabbermouths......




Fame is an equally or more powerful motivator. So is revenge.


Perhaps to a point, but.....the fact of the matter is those in power are not afraid to use it on those who dare to speak out against them, and in fact have. See: JFK.

It's a big mob in essence.

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Tue 01/25/11 01:17 PM
Yes and yes the illuminati do exist, this can be traced by finding out the history rap of the world's favourite hip-hop star called "2 pac". Who is now beneath the earth's crust. He sang saying "killuminat" meaning remove the illuminati or get rid of. The first 4 letters in the word killuminate mean kill which 2 get rid or remove. This was go to some rappers who were involved with th illuminati. Antichrist is so much real in the states it has already started were religious doctrine disallowed in schoolz. Much more is yet to happen believe or not it will.

Ruth34611's photo
Tue 01/25/11 01:33 PM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Tue 01/25/11 01:34 PM
From what I understand the goal of the original Illuminati was the detruction of the Catholic Church and Christianity in general. And probably the monarchies that supported the Catholic Church. They saw them as oppressive and as counter to the enlightenment period.

I don't know what their goal is today. But my guess is that it is along the same lines and that they would support a one world religion. They may also have members who are in it for the money and a world currency controlled by a central bank.

I'm not sure how Tupac and/or the music industry would play into that. Sounds a bit strange. But I'm sure my statements above sound a bit strange as well.

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Tue 01/25/11 11:32 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Tue 01/25/11 11:32 PM

From what I understand the goal of the original Illuminati was the detruction of the Catholic Church and Christianity in general. And probably the monarchies that supported the Catholic Church. They saw them as oppressive and as counter to the enlightenment period.

I don't know what their goal is today. But my guess is that it is along the same lines and that they would support a one world religion. They may also have members who are in it for the money and a world currency controlled by a central bank.

I'm not sure how Tupac and/or the music industry would play into that. Sounds a bit strange. But I'm sure my statements above sound a bit strange as well.



Think of the power of media, and how it can be used to manipulate the people and to espouse their agendas, and you have your answer.

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Wed 01/26/11 12:25 AM

I meant do you think they still exist......and I think the leader is prince william




I think its the Pope

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Wed 01/26/11 07:23 AM


I meant do you think they still exist......and I think the leader is prince william




I think its the Pope


It was Nero.

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Wed 01/26/11 09:47 AM


From what I understand the goal of the original Illuminati was the detruction of the Catholic Church and Christianity in general. And probably the monarchies that supported the Catholic Church. They saw them as oppressive and as counter to the enlightenment period.

I don't know what their goal is today. But my guess is that it is along the same lines and that they would support a one world religion. They may also have members who are in it for the money and a world currency controlled by a central bank.

I'm not sure how Tupac and/or the music industry would play into that. Sounds a bit strange. But I'm sure my statements above sound a bit strange as well.



Think of the power of media, and how it can be used to manipulate the people and to espouse their agendas, and you have your answer.


How was Tupac being used by the Illuminati? What was he doing to further their agenda? And why him over other celebrities? I just rally don't see the connection.

Kleisto's photo
Wed 01/26/11 02:11 PM



From what I understand the goal of the original Illuminati was the detruction of the Catholic Church and Christianity in general. And probably the monarchies that supported the Catholic Church. They saw them as oppressive and as counter to the enlightenment period.

I don't know what their goal is today. But my guess is that it is along the same lines and that they would support a one world religion. They may also have members who are in it for the money and a world currency controlled by a central bank.

I'm not sure how Tupac and/or the music industry would play into that. Sounds a bit strange. But I'm sure my statements above sound a bit strange as well.



Think of the power of media, and how it can be used to manipulate the people and to espouse their agendas, and you have your answer.


How was Tupac being used by the Illuminati? What was he doing to further their agenda? And why him over other celebrities? I just rally don't see the connection.



Are you trying to ask why they killed him, or why he was in the limelight?

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 01/26/11 02:20 PM
Ok, yes, let's go with that. Why did they kill him?

Kleisto's photo
Wed 01/26/11 05:24 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 01/26/11 05:25 PM

Ok, yes, let's go with that. Why did they kill him?



Because he was speaking the truth. More to the point, too much of it, being in the public eye as he was. So they had to silence him, much like they did JFK way back when, among others.

When you're in the spotlight there is a line you don't cross, if you cross it, you then cross them, and make yourself a target.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/26/11 05:28 PM


Ok, yes, let's go with that. Why did they kill him?



Because he was speaking the truth. More to the point, too much of it, being in the public eye as he was. So they had to silence him, much like they did JFK way back when, among others.

When you're in the spotlight there is a line you don't cross, if you cross it, you then cross them, and make yourself a target.


the inning is over now, you people in left field can come on back now...

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 01/26/11 05:53 PM


Ok, yes, let's go with that. Why did they kill him?



Because he was speaking the truth. More to the point, too much of it, being in the public eye as he was. So they had to silence him, much like they did JFK way back when, among others.

When you're in the spotlight there is a line you don't cross, if you cross it, you then cross them, and make yourself a target.


What did he say that got him killed? What, specifically, was the threat he posed to them?

Kleisto's photo
Wed 01/26/11 05:58 PM



Ok, yes, let's go with that. Why did they kill him?



Because he was speaking the truth. More to the point, too much of it, being in the public eye as he was. So they had to silence him, much like they did JFK way back when, among others.

When you're in the spotlight there is a line you don't cross, if you cross it, you then cross them, and make yourself a target.


What did he say that got him killed? What, specifically, was the threat he posed to them?



Exposing their power to those unaware basically in short. Exposing the secret society that many are unaware of.

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 01/26/11 06:20 PM
How did he do that?

This is the last time I'm gonna ask and then I give up.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/26/11 06:25 PM

How did he do that?

This is the last time I'm gonna ask and then I give up.


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Ruth34611's photo
Wed 01/26/11 06:46 PM


How did he do that?

This is the last time I'm gonna ask and then I give up.


lol...laugh laugh flowerforyou


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Kleisto's photo
Wed 01/26/11 09:33 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Wed 01/26/11 09:43 PM
Here watch this Ruth, on him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvx_g8qO28o

That's part 1 the rest you can find on his page.

Here's a 2nd one too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j51T4a3WjB8&feature=related