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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. judgement? when is that and where is that and what is accomplished by that. Is there really a judgement day. Are you saying that whoever the Judge is doesn't alreay know the case? Does there within necessity need to be a "hell" or a place of condemnation? Yes there does, within religious thinking. Otherwise, it wouldn't work. With the fear fixed upon the minds of the believers, there couldn't be a religious belief that would keep the attention of the believers. Humbug with that crap. It's just a means of control. No the judge does not know the verdict already. We have free will, and with that free will you can do anything you wish to do at any moment. So therefore one may be a mass murderer now or any other sinful action, but one day in the future find God and give his life over to our father. And hell is a fear tactic. If one does not believe, trying to scare them with hell will do no good. They will just laugh and turn away. Christianity isn't about being scared of hell and saving yourself from hell. It's about uplifting our father in everything we do and loving each other as oneself. To share love and enjoyment with one another. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? |
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More and more people are finally realizing that these books about God, without God having anything to do with them, screw up more than they fix. Their purpose is to solidify somebody's belief system and is used to fortify their positions, whatever they are. All BOOKS about God are that way. God wrote nothing. He's too intelligent. God wrote the 10 commandments and gave it to earth. The bible is history and examples of what to do or not to do, that does not need to be written by our father. It all boils around the 10 commandments. And yes the 10 commandments are from the old testament times. But Jesus teaches the 10 commandments through his life in the new testament. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin Jesus reveals his stance on homosexuality in Matthew 19.3-6 and Mark 10.2-9. Here, the Pharisees "test" Him. And He quotes Genesis. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the image of God as male/female, man/woman with his quotation of Genesis. Alternative alignments of man/man, woman/woman, etc. reject God's creation and deface the image of God. While Jesus was never recorded as speaking the word "homosexuality," He did define what sexual relationships should be. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin Jesus reveals his stance on homosexuality in Matthew 19.3-6 and Mark 10.2-9. Here, the Pharisees "test" Him. And He quotes Genesis. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the image of God as male/female, man/woman with his quotation of Genesis. Alternative alignments of man/man, woman/woman, etc. reject God's creation and deface the image of God. While Jesus was never recorded as speaking the word "homosexuality," He did define what sexual relationships should be. I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin Jesus reveals his stance on homosexuality in Matthew 19.3-6 and Mark 10.2-9. Here, the Pharisees "test" Him. And He quotes Genesis. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the image of God as male/female, man/woman with his quotation of Genesis. Alternative alignments of man/man, woman/woman, etc. reject God's creation and deface the image of God. While Jesus was never recorded as speaking the word "homosexuality," He did define what sexual relationships should be. Source - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090801021130AAQjUdc Sorry I didn't add it when I originally posted this, wasn't thinking. Sorry didn't mean to make this look like it was my work. I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly I didn't paste anything from a Satan site lol. I gave referance of Jesus telling us how it should be. Jesus may never have said anything against homosexuality in exacts. But he taught us how relationships are to be. Why does someone have to be told not to do it? Jesus says that it is to be male/female, why should he go into more detail and say no to male/male and female/female. If some one gives you instructions somewhere, they say go down this street and turn right on maple. To get to your destination you would follow their instructions. Even though they didn't say don't turn left, you know that you are not to turn left but you are to turn right as instructed. |
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I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly Unfortunately there will always be those who use the rumors of Jesus as an excuse to spread hatred in the name of God. It's all so easy to do. And the true irony of it all is that they pretend that things such as the crusades, the witch burnings, and Hitler's holocaust against the Jews can't be supported by the religion, yet here they are supporting their own little version of bigoted hatred against others in the name of Jesus. The Bible can be used to support the hateful whims of whatever madmen happen upon it. So it really should be exposed as the pure fiction that it is so that it can no longer be used by hate mongers to incite bigotry among the masses. We see it happening right before our very eyes. People spreading brotherly hatred and condemning others in the name of Jesus. When will the hatred stop? Everybody knows that "heathens" on the list of people that Jesus can be used to support hatred against. In fact, that's being done too, all the time. It's just a religion that spreads hatred toward all those who refuse to cower down to its constant judgments and commendation anyone who refuses to support its bigotry. We already know that Christians hate Christians because of this religion. Many Protestants refuse to even acknowledge that Catholicism represents "Christianity". So if the whole world were covered to "Christianity" would that include Catholics? Not according to the Protestants. Not only that but even the Protestants have bones to pick with each other. Bishop Carlton Pearson was shunned by the very Christian clergy who ordained him for his belief that God told him that hell is a misguided notion and doesn't exist. Yet there are many proselytizers who take this stance. So according to some "Christians" they are in violation of "Christianity" in their views. So its a finger-pointing religion that can never bring peace to the world. All it does is incite people to point figures of accusation and blame at other people. Contrary to what Jesus supposedly taught about not judging others, judging others it truly all that Christianity amounts to. So the very religion spits in the face of the very man that it claims to worship as its "Lord". It's a highly hypocritical religion that only cases animosity between men. Even between the very men who claim to be "Christians". The finger-pointing and accusations in the name of Jesus never cease. |
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I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly Unfortunately there will always be those who use the rumors of Jesus as an excuse to spread hatred in the name of God. It's all so easy to do. And the true irony of it all is that they pretend that things such as the crusades, the witch burnings, and Hitler's holocaust against the Jews can't be supported by the religion, yet here they are supporting their own little version of bigoted hatred against others in the name of Jesus. The Bible can be used to support the hateful whims of whatever madmen happen upon it. So it really should be exposed as the pure fiction that it is so that it can no longer be used by hate mongers to incite bigotry among the masses. We see it happening right before our very eyes. People spreading brotherly hatred and condemning others in the name of Jesus. When will the hatred stop? Everybody knows that "heathens" on the list of people that Jesus can be used to support hatred against. In fact, that's being done too, all the time. It's just a religion that spreads hatred toward all those who refuse to cower down to its constant judgments and commendation anyone who refuses to support its bigotry. We already know that Christians hate Christians because of this religion. Many Protestants refuse to even acknowledge that Catholicism represents "Christianity". So if the whole world were covered to "Christianity" would that include Catholics? Not according to the Protestants. Not only that but even the Protestants have bones to pick with each other. Bishop Carlton Pearson was shunned by the very Christian clergy who ordained him for his belief that God told him that hell is a misguided notion and doesn't exist. Yet there are many proselytizers who take this stance. So according to some "Christians" they are in violation of "Christianity" in their views. So its a finger-pointing religion that can never bring peace to the world. All it does is incite people to point figures of accusation and blame at other people. Contrary to what Jesus supposedly taught about not judging others, judging others it truly all that Christianity amounts to. So the very religion spits in the face of the very man that it claims to worship as its "Lord". It's a highly hypocritical religion that only cases animosity between men. Even between the very men who claim to be "Christians". The finger-pointing and accusations in the name of Jesus never cease. Absolutely no hatred being spread. No one say anyone was going to burn, no one said anything along the lines as the people being lesser of humans, no one said anything negative about them. With this form of thinking someone that lies being told lying is a sin could use your defence and say "well who believes in this hatred folklore any ways". It would be hatred if one wasn't told. If you seen someone driving down the road that dead ends into a previously occurred accident that could not be seen till you went around the curve and there's fire everywhere. But you could not see the fire till you were around the bend and right in the middle of it. Would it not be the kind thing to do to tell them instead of allowing them to drive right into it? |
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I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly Unfortunately there will always be those who use the rumors of Jesus as an excuse to spread hatred in the name of God. It's all so easy to do. And the true irony of it all is that they pretend that things such as the crusades, the witch burnings, and Hitler's holocaust against the Jews can't be supported by the religion, yet here they are supporting their own little version of bigoted hatred against others in the name of Jesus. The Bible can be used to support the hateful whims of whatever madmen happen upon it. So it really should be exposed as the pure fiction that it is so that it can no longer be used by hate mongers to incite bigotry among the masses. We see it happening right before our very eyes. People spreading brotherly hatred and condemning others in the name of Jesus. When will the hatred stop? Everybody knows that "heathens" on the list of people that Jesus can be used to support hatred against. In fact, that's being done too, all the time. It's just a religion that spreads hatred toward all those who refuse to cower down to its constant judgments and commendation anyone who refuses to support its bigotry. We already know that Christians hate Christians because of this religion. Many Protestants refuse to even acknowledge that Catholicism represents "Christianity". So if the whole world were covered to "Christianity" would that include Catholics? Not according to the Protestants. Not only that but even the Protestants have bones to pick with each other. Bishop Carlton Pearson was shunned by the very Christian clergy who ordained him for his belief that God told him that hell is a misguided notion and doesn't exist. Yet there are many proselytizers who take this stance. So according to some "Christians" they are in violation of "Christianity" in their views. So its a finger-pointing religion that can never bring peace to the world. All it does is incite people to point figures of accusation and blame at other people. Contrary to what Jesus supposedly taught about not judging others, judging others it truly all that Christianity amounts to. So the very religion spits in the face of the very man that it claims to worship as its "Lord". It's a highly hypocritical religion that only cases animosity between men. Even between the very men who claim to be "Christians". The finger-pointing and accusations in the name of Jesus never cease. So its a finger-pointing religion that can never bring peace to the world. All it does is incite people to point figures of accusation and blame at other people. There is no finger pointing. Homosexuals or some other sin makes no one less of a person then anyone else or any worse of a person. THERE IS BUT ONE SIN GREATER THEN THE OTHER. All sins besides denying Jesus is forgiveable and equal. There is no finger pointing. Just trying to help out of love. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin Jesus reveals his stance on homosexuality in Matthew 19.3-6 and Mark 10.2-9. Here, the Pharisees "test" Him. And He quotes Genesis. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the image of God as male/female, man/woman with his quotation of Genesis. Alternative alignments of man/man, woman/woman, etc. reject God's creation and deface the image of God. While Jesus was never recorded as speaking the word "homosexuality," He did define what sexual relationships should be. Source - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090801021130AAQjUdc Sorry I didn't add it when I originally posted this, wasn't thinking. Sorry didn't mean to make this look like it was my work. I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly I didn't paste anything from a Satan site lol. I gave referance of Jesus telling us how it should be. Jesus may never have said anything against homosexuality in exacts. But he taught us how relationships are to be. Why does someone have to be told not to do it? Jesus says that it is to be male/female, why should he go into more detail and say no to male/male and female/female. If some one gives you instructions somewhere, they say go down this street and turn right on maple. To get to your destination you would follow their instructions. Even though they didn't say don't turn left, you know that you are not to turn left but you are to turn right as instructed. if Jesus never gave any reference to homosexuality or the likes...then why did you even mention homosexualitiy unless to judge them yourself all I asked was for you to give a passage from the bible where Jesus states that it is a sin...if you can not do so ....then perhaps you should think about not using the name of Jesus to attack them |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin Jesus reveals his stance on homosexuality in Matthew 19.3-6 and Mark 10.2-9. Here, the Pharisees "test" Him. And He quotes Genesis. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the image of God as male/female, man/woman with his quotation of Genesis. Alternative alignments of man/man, woman/woman, etc. reject God's creation and deface the image of God. While Jesus was never recorded as speaking the word "homosexuality," He did define what sexual relationships should be. Source - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090801021130AAQjUdc Sorry I didn't add it when I originally posted this, wasn't thinking. Sorry didn't mean to make this look like it was my work. I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly I didn't paste anything from a Satan site lol. I gave referance of Jesus telling us how it should be. Jesus may never have said anything against homosexuality in exacts. But he taught us how relationships are to be. Why does someone have to be told not to do it? Jesus says that it is to be male/female, why should he go into more detail and say no to male/male and female/female. If some one gives you instructions somewhere, they say go down this street and turn right on maple. To get to your destination you would follow their instructions. Even though they didn't say don't turn left, you know that you are not to turn left but you are to turn right as instructed. if Jesus never gave any reference to homosexuality or the likes...then why did you even mention homosexualitiy unless to judge them yourself all I asked was for you to give a passage from the bible where Jesus states that it is a sin...if you can not do so ....then perhaps you should think about not using the name of Jesus to attack them I'm not attacking anyone. And Jesus gave us the instructions of a relationship. In those instructions, homosexuality was no included. He specifically said male/female. So again with my illustration. If someone tells you to turn right on maple to get to their house, if you go left you'd be in the wrong, you would sin. But if you were obedient and did as you were told you would be obedient and receive the reward of making it to their house as promised. |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin Jesus reveals his stance on homosexuality in Matthew 19.3-6 and Mark 10.2-9. Here, the Pharisees "test" Him. And He quotes Genesis. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the image of God as male/female, man/woman with his quotation of Genesis. Alternative alignments of man/man, woman/woman, etc. reject God's creation and deface the image of God. While Jesus was never recorded as speaking the word "homosexuality," He did define what sexual relationships should be. Source - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090801021130AAQjUdc Sorry I didn't add it when I originally posted this, wasn't thinking. Sorry didn't mean to make this look like it was my work. I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly I didn't paste anything from a Satan site lol. I gave referance of Jesus telling us how it should be. Jesus may never have said anything against homosexuality in exacts. But he taught us how relationships are to be. Why does someone have to be told not to do it? Jesus says that it is to be male/female, why should he go into more detail and say no to male/male and female/female. If some one gives you instructions somewhere, they say go down this street and turn right on maple. To get to your destination you would follow their instructions. Even though they didn't say don't turn left, you know that you are not to turn left but you are to turn right as instructed. if Jesus never gave any reference to homosexuality or the likes...then why did you even mention homosexualitiy unless to judge them yourself all I asked was for you to give a passage from the bible where Jesus states that it is a sin...if you can not do so ....then perhaps you should think about not using the name of Jesus to attack them I'm not attacking anyone. And Jesus gave us the instructions of a relationship. In those instructions, homosexuality was no included. He specifically said male/female. So again with my illustration. If someone tells you to turn right on maple to get to their house, if you go left you'd be in the wrong, you would sin. But if you were obedient and did as you were told you would be obedient and receive the reward of making it to their house as promised. but yet you still fail to provide that passage where Jesus states that homosexuality or the like is a sin so can you refrain from preaching hatred long enough to go find it ... |
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There is no finger pointing. Homosexuals or some other sin makes no one less of a person then anyone else or any worse of a person. THERE IS BUT ONE SIN GREATER THEN THE OTHER. All sins besides denying Jesus is forgiveable and equal. There is no finger pointing. Just trying to help out of love. That's probably what Hitler said when he was exterminating the Jews for having denied Jesus. I personally believe that the doctrine you worship and proselytize as the "Word of God" is itself inherently "evil". So if your idea of "love" is to spread religious bigotry in the name of God, then so be it. I personally don't see any love in that, especially in the way that you go about it. All you're doing is inflaming animosity toward the very religion that you claim to be interested in supporting. There are far better ways to spread love in the world. Maybe instead of trying to become Jesus, you should take a serious look at first trying to follow in the footsteps of Mother Teresa. |
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There is no finger pointing. Homosexuals or some other sin makes no one less of a person then anyone else or any worse of a person. THERE IS BUT ONE SIN GREATER THEN THE OTHER. All sins besides denying Jesus is forgiveable and equal. There is no finger pointing. Just trying to help out of love. That's probably what Hitler said when he was exterminating the Jews for having denied Jesus. I personally believe that the doctrine you worship and proselytize as the "Word of God" is itself inherently "evil". So if your idea of "love" is to spread religious bigotry in the name of God, then so be it. I personally don't see any love in that, especially in the way that you go about it. All you're doing is inflaming animosity toward the very religion that you claim to be interested in supporting. There are far better ways to spread love in the world. Maybe instead of trying to become Jesus, you should take a serious look at first trying to follow in the footsteps of Mother Teresa. What Hitler did in no way was supported by what Jesus has taught us to do. Mother Teresa has no say so in my soul, so why would I follow her? Why would I not follow along the path to our father that has been laid out for us to follow? |
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That statement doesn't even make sense. How can one BELIEVE it, if they know it's not true? That's not believing something for you believe it not to be true. That's only presenting yourself as believing which is then a lie. then let's test if it's true or not ....do you as a Christian believe thast Jesus is the only way to God? Yes I do. Jesus gave his entire life to give us the law between man and God. In the end he died so you would not have to. so that means that you also believe that those that do not accept Jesus as their lord and savior will not get to Heaven and will die? Is not my place to make that judgement. I didn't ask you to make a judgement..I ask you if you believe it to be true Oh but it is a judgement. I may not be judging a specific person in this specific discussion, but making a judgement on weather homosexuals will go to heaven or die is making a judgement on ALL homosexuals. No one knows who will go to heaven or die till the day of judgement, that is entirely up to Jesus at judgement. then it's not true that Jesus died so that others wouldn't have to...whether ones dies or not is a judgement made by God and has nothing to do with accepting Jesus as lord and savior ...is that right? Yes Jesus died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus sacrificed himself into death so you would not have to feel the wrath of our father. So you could enjoy the eternal life in heaven. so that means that you also believe that Jesus died so that all including homosexuals would not feel the wrath of the father and enjoy eternal life in Heaven If they accept Jesus as lord and saviour, then yes. But as Jesus being our lord, he has instructed us that homosexuality is sinful and we are not to do it, therefore if one accepts Jesus as lord and saviour they would then not do the homosexual activities for our lord has told us not to. ok...now all you have to do is provide a passage from the bible where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin Jesus reveals his stance on homosexuality in Matthew 19.3-6 and Mark 10.2-9. Here, the Pharisees "test" Him. And He quotes Genesis. Therefore, Jesus affirmed the image of God as male/female, man/woman with his quotation of Genesis. Alternative alignments of man/man, woman/woman, etc. reject God's creation and deface the image of God. While Jesus was never recorded as speaking the word "homosexuality," He did define what sexual relationships should be. Source - http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090801021130AAQjUdc Sorry I didn't add it when I originally posted this, wasn't thinking. Sorry didn't mean to make this look like it was my work. I didn't ask you to (google cut and paste) something from a Satan website...I asked you to post a passage from the bible where Jesus specifically states that homosexuality or the likes is a sin you gave this whole sermon that Jesus "instructed" you that it was a sin ....so unless you can provide a passage where Jesus states that it is a sin...then this is an example of you believing something that you know isn't true you are using the Christian religion falsely to judge others unjustly I didn't paste anything from a Satan site lol. I gave referance of Jesus telling us how it should be. Jesus may never have said anything against homosexuality in exacts. But he taught us how relationships are to be. Why does someone have to be told not to do it? Jesus says that it is to be male/female, why should he go into more detail and say no to male/male and female/female. If some one gives you instructions somewhere, they say go down this street and turn right on maple. To get to your destination you would follow their instructions. Even though they didn't say don't turn left, you know that you are not to turn left but you are to turn right as instructed. if Jesus never gave any reference to homosexuality or the likes...then why did you even mention homosexualitiy unless to judge them yourself all I asked was for you to give a passage from the bible where Jesus states that it is a sin...if you can not do so ....then perhaps you should think about not using the name of Jesus to attack them I'm not attacking anyone. And Jesus gave us the instructions of a relationship. In those instructions, homosexuality was no included. He specifically said male/female. So again with my illustration. If someone tells you to turn right on maple to get to their house, if you go left you'd be in the wrong, you would sin. But if you were obedient and did as you were told you would be obedient and receive the reward of making it to their house as promised. but yet you still fail to provide that passage where Jesus states that homosexuality or the like is a sin so can you refrain from preaching hatred long enough to go find it ... I'm not preaching hatred. And Jesus gave us instructions on how a family is to be set up, therefore if it is outside of those guidelines it is not permitted, therefore a sin. |
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I'm not preaching hatred. And Jesus gave us instructions on how a family is to be set up, therefore if it is outside of those guidelines it is not permitted, therefore a sin. According to you and your own personal interpretations of your own chosen religion perhaps. But since you constantly spit in the face of everyone else's religious beliefs you're not spreading love at all but merely religious bigotry, and that's hatred no matter how you cut it. You can't spit in the face of other people's religions and spiritual beliefs and call that love. In fact, even you have confessed that not all Christians hold the same values and beliefs that you do. So the personalized version of your own Christianity is just that - your personal interpretation of it. |
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