Topic: How do you think we are handling
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Sat 11/27/10 07:25 PM
China intentionally provokes the situation to profit from it. N Korea prevents stability in the region. China cannot pull off an invasion of us. Even attempting an invasion of Japan would be costly and they do not have the support needed to pull it off. Frankly they have threatened us with nukes before. All I have to say is SM III!

Notice how quiet the Chinese are with the USS George Washington in their midst. Recently they threatened us they could sink it. What about the support fleet? Bet money there are at least four Los Angeles Class subs in the area too! Aegis Cruisers too dripping with SM II and SM III. And N Korea plans on doing what exactly? Preemptive strike? they 'hope' to sink a carrier? I wonder how they would fare seeing four more coming for business? That and all the B52s?

Kim Jong Ill Sucks so hard he could suck the seeds from a cucumber! he needs to get put down along with his cronies!

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Sun 11/28/10 03:44 AM


We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.






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Sun 11/28/10 04:11 AM

China intentionally provokes the situation to profit from it. N Korea prevents stability in the region. China cannot pull off an invasion of us. Even attempting an invasion of Japan would be costly and they do not have the support needed to pull it off. Frankly they have threatened us with nukes before. All I have to say is SM III!

Notice how quiet the Chinese are with the USS George Washington in their midst. Recently they threatened us they could sink it. What about the support fleet? Bet money there are at least four Los Angeles Class subs in the area too! Aegis Cruisers too dripping with SM II and SM III. And N Korea plans on doing what exactly? Preemptive strike? they 'hope' to sink a carrier? I wonder how they would fare seeing four more coming for business? That and all the B52s?

Kim Jong Ill Sucks so hard he could suck the seeds from a cucumber! he needs to get put down along with his cronies!


I heard a report from the US Navy a couple years ago that was the Navy's biggest fear. That we would have a US Carrier Battle Group deployed near Korea and North Korea would take it out with a nuclear tipped cruise missile.

Our cruise missiles (tomahawk)are subsonic but I believe North Korea has some short range cruise missiles that have supersonic capability and are hard to knock out. All they have to do is get it close to a US Battle group and detonate.


Bestinshow's photo
Sun 11/28/10 08:10 AM
In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way. “

Franklin Delano Roosevelt

All we need to do is look at or ruined cities, our devestated economy our diminished wages and lifestyle. Do you think a war will cure any of this or make it worse?

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Sun 11/28/10 08:18 AM
let the south korean special forces aka ninjas nunchuck the north...JUDO CHOP

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 11/28/10 09:14 AM
I, for one, am learning to speak Chinese.

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 11/28/10 11:03 AM


China intentionally provokes the situation to profit from it. N Korea prevents stability in the region. China cannot pull off an invasion of us. Even attempting an invasion of Japan would be costly and they do not have the support needed to pull it off. Frankly they have threatened us with nukes before. All I have to say is SM III!

Notice how quiet the Chinese are with the USS George Washington in their midst. Recently they threatened us they could sink it. What about the support fleet? Bet money there are at least four Los Angeles Class subs in the area too! Aegis Cruisers too dripping with SM II and SM III. And N Korea plans on doing what exactly? Preemptive strike? they 'hope' to sink a carrier? I wonder how they would fare seeing four more coming for business? That and all the B52s?

Kim Jong Ill Sucks so hard he could suck the seeds from a cucumber! he needs to get put down along with his cronies!


I heard a report from the US Navy a couple years ago that was the Navy's biggest fear. That we would have a US Carrier Battle Group deployed near Korea and North Korea would take it out with a nuclear tipped cruise missile.

Our cruise missiles (tomahawk)are subsonic but I believe North Korea has some short range cruise missiles that have supersonic capability and are hard to knock out. All they have to do is get it close to a US Battle group and detonate.




They nuke a carrier and what do they get?

I*C*B*M!

Triton missiles carry up to seven 5Meg warheads. Atlas II carries five. Minuetman III carries one warhead. They fire nukes we will fire ours. So they get the carrier? How about the Boomers? Think we don't float Wolf Packs of our own? They have subs too? And how long have we been playing cat and mouse with Russia underwater? Russian subs are better than many of us choose to believe.

When the nukes start flying the UN will have a lot of egg on its collective faces and China will probably get stripped of their seat on the security council. Let N Korea get froggy! We got stuff that was being worked on before that jackoff Dem Obama began stripping back our weapons development budget. Ronald Regan was committed to "Star Wars" and look at what China is trying to do. Shoot down satellites. Why? Cripple our defense and communication infrastructure.

And if China flings a single nuke and sinks our ship? Hope they can fend of the ICBMs they will have heading their way! All Russia will do is sit back and take a huge dose of "Shut the Fuque Up." Using a nuke at any point is foolish by anyone and if N Korea is that stupid well, "Hey buddy, Got Change For 25,000,000,000 people?"


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Sun 11/28/10 06:04 PM

the situation with North Korea? Should we flex more muscle or step back?


Strategy...you know? How wars used to be fought...

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Sun 11/28/10 08:31 PM



China intentionally provokes the situation to profit from it. N Korea prevents stability in the region. China cannot pull off an invasion of us. Even attempting an invasion of Japan would be costly and they do not have the support needed to pull it off. Frankly they have threatened us with nukes before. All I have to say is SM III!

Notice how quiet the Chinese are with the USS George Washington in their midst. Recently they threatened us they could sink it. What about the support fleet? Bet money there are at least four Los Angeles Class subs in the area too! Aegis Cruisers too dripping with SM II and SM III. And N Korea plans on doing what exactly? Preemptive strike? they 'hope' to sink a carrier? I wonder how they would fare seeing four more coming for business? That and all the B52s?

Kim Jong Ill Sucks so hard he could suck the seeds from a cucumber! he needs to get put down along with his cronies!


I heard a report from the US Navy a couple years ago that was the Navy's biggest fear. That we would have a US Carrier Battle Group deployed near Korea and North Korea would take it out with a nuclear tipped cruise missile.

Our cruise missiles (tomahawk)are subsonic but I believe North Korea has some short range cruise missiles that have supersonic capability and are hard to knock out. All they have to do is get it close to a US Battle group and detonate.




They nuke a carrier and what do they get?

I*C*B*M!

Triton missiles carry up to seven 5Meg warheads. Atlas II carries five. Minuetman III carries one warhead. They fire nukes we will fire ours. So they get the carrier? How about the Boomers? Think we don't float Wolf Packs of our own? They have subs too? And how long have we been playing cat and mouse with Russia underwater? Russian subs are better than many of us choose to believe.

When the nukes start flying the UN will have a lot of egg on its collective faces and China will probably get stripped of their seat on the security council. Let N Korea get froggy! We got stuff that was being worked on before that jackoff Dem Obama began stripping back our weapons development budget. Ronald Regan was committed to "Star Wars" and look at what China is trying to do. Shoot down satellites. Why? Cripple our defense and communication infrastructure.

And if China flings a single nuke and sinks our ship? Hope they can fend of the ICBMs they will have heading their way! All Russia will do is sit back and take a huge dose of "Shut the Fuque Up." Using a nuke at any point is foolish by anyone and if N Korea is that stupid well, "Hey buddy, Got Change For 25,000,000,000 people?"




Sure we carry the big stick with thermonuclear capability but they could have the potential do inflict heavy casulties on our forces and possibly our homeland.

I think we were all surprised when 15 Saudi's took our commercial airliners and flew them into the WTC on 9-11. I think we are still reeling from the economic impact that attack caused.

Just imagine if there is a North Korean fishing vessel off the coast of California and pops a nuke over LA? This is a real concern that President Bush was faced with when briefed about it back in 2002.

North Korea thinks they can defeat us and I just hope they are not crazy enough to try.


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Mon 11/29/10 01:32 PM



We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.








I highly doubt there would be a huge loss of US troops at all. We are better funded and better equiped then they could even dream to be. If we had a President that had a sack, this would have already been handled.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/29/10 01:33 PM


China intentionally provokes the situation to profit from it. N Korea prevents stability in the region. China cannot pull off an invasion of us. Even attempting an invasion of Japan would be costly and they do not have the support needed to pull it off. Frankly they have threatened us with nukes before. All I have to say is SM III!

Notice how quiet the Chinese are with the USS George Washington in their midst. Recently they threatened us they could sink it. What about the support fleet? Bet money there are at least four Los Angeles Class subs in the area too! Aegis Cruisers too dripping with SM II and SM III. And N Korea plans on doing what exactly? Preemptive strike? they 'hope' to sink a carrier? I wonder how they would fare seeing four more coming for business? That and all the B52s?

Kim Jong Ill Sucks so hard he could suck the seeds from a cucumber! he needs to get put down along with his cronies!


I heard a report from the US Navy a couple years ago that was the Navy's biggest fear. That we would have a US Carrier Battle Group deployed near Korea and North Korea would take it out with a nuclear tipped cruise missile.

Our cruise missiles (tomahawk)are subsonic but I believe North Korea has some short range cruise missiles that have supersonic capability and are hard to knock out. All they have to do is get it close to a US Battle group and detonate.




They don't have a delivery system that works at all. We can shoot down any of their prehistoric missles that they even aim in our direction.

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 11/29/10 02:12 PM




We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.








I highly doubt there would be a huge loss of US troops at all. We are better funded and better equiped then they could even dream to be. If we had a President that had a sack, this would have already been handled.


Yeah, about that...the funny thing about nukes is you only have to get lucky once.

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Mon 11/29/10 02:18 PM





We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.








I highly doubt there would be a huge loss of US troops at all. We are better funded and better equiped then they could even dream to be. If we had a President that had a sack, this would have already been handled.


Yeah, about that...the funny thing about nukes is you only have to get lucky once.


It would take a lot of luck on their part being they don't even have a delivery system that works.

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 11/29/10 02:30 PM






We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.








I highly doubt there would be a huge loss of US troops at all. We are better funded and better equiped then they could even dream to be. If we had a President that had a sack, this would have already been handled.


Yeah, about that...the funny thing about nukes is you only have to get lucky once.


It would take a lot of luck on their part being they don't even have a delivery system that works.


How do you know what they have? Did you go there and walk up to Kim Jong-il and ask him how his delivery system for his nuclear warheads was going?

Regardless, even if their luck is only in the one percentile, they only need to get lucky once. Take China for instance, they have thousands of nukes, if one percent of those nukes make it through that would be ten nukes, if ten nukes hit the United States there would simply not be a United States anymore.

North Korea is nowhere near thousands or even hundreds, but if they want to they will be, and when they are they become a very serious threat.

But **** it, not like logic has a whole lot of grab in this forum with all of you Rambo's and Terminator's. So how about you just get your passport, fly over to North Korea, purchase a gun (maybe even a fancy handgun) and try to neutralize the nuclear threat yourself. I mean hell, most of you already know how to run the country, build the economic system up, and fight multiple wars...

mightymoe's photo
Mon 11/29/10 02:42 PM







We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.








I highly doubt there would be a huge loss of US troops at all. We are better funded and better equiped then they could even dream to be. If we had a President that had a sack, this would have already been handled.


Yeah, about that...the funny thing about nukes is you only have to get lucky once.


It would take a lot of luck on their part being they don't even have a delivery system that works.


How do you know what they have? Did you go there and walk up to Kim Jong-il and ask him how his delivery system for his nuclear warheads was going?

Regardless, even if their luck is only in the one percentile, they only need to get lucky once. Take China for instance, they have thousands of nukes, if one percent of those nukes make it through that would be ten nukes, if ten nukes hit the United States there would simply not be a United States anymore.

North Korea is nowhere near thousands or even hundreds, but if they want to they will be, and when they are they become a very serious threat.

But **** it, not like logic has a whole lot of grab in this forum with all of you Rambo's and Terminator's. So how about you just get your passport, fly over to North Korea, purchase a gun (maybe even a fancy handgun) and try to neutralize the nuclear threat yourself. I mean hell, most of you already know how to run the country, build the economic system up, and fight multiple wars...


well, why don't we just ignore it like you seem to want to do? maybe it will just go away... all of the other "bad leaders" like the Hitlers, the napoleons, and all of the others that wanted world domination did...(they went away because we didn't just sit back and ignore them, just so you know...)

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 11/29/10 02:49 PM
Obviously I'm ignoring it, or is that just an automated response from someone that doesn't really know what they are talking about but read about it on the news and suddenly became an expert?

Read about it, remember Nagasaki? Hiroshima? Both of those were only one nuke large, remember those? Doesn't take a scientist to know what will happen if we fall into nuclear war.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/29/10 03:40 PM







We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.








I highly doubt there would be a huge loss of US troops at all. We are better funded and better equiped then they could even dream to be. If we had a President that had a sack, this would have already been handled.


Yeah, about that...the funny thing about nukes is you only have to get lucky once.


It would take a lot of luck on their part being they don't even have a delivery system that works.


How do you know what they have? Did you go there and walk up to Kim Jong-il and ask him how his delivery system for his nuclear warheads was going?

Regardless, even if their luck is only in the one percentile, they only need to get lucky once. Take China for instance, they have thousands of nukes, if one percent of those nukes make it through that would be ten nukes, if ten nukes hit the United States there would simply not be a United States anymore.

North Korea is nowhere near thousands or even hundreds, but if they want to they will be, and when they are they become a very serious threat.

But **** it, not like logic has a whole lot of grab in this forum with all of you Rambo's and Terminator's. So how about you just get your passport, fly over to North Korea, purchase a gun (maybe even a fancy handgun) and try to neutralize the nuclear threat yourself. I mean hell, most of you already know how to run the country, build the economic system up, and fight multiple wars...


Ummmm, don't you watch the news? They have tested two delivery systems recently and BOTH crashed into the ocean after take off.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/29/10 03:41 PM








We will be at war with China before too long. As for the Korean situation, I think its best that we stay out of it. I mean, S. Korea is supposedly an ally of ours, but our economic situation MUST be taken into account FIRST!!

We cannot afford another war....Iraq & Afganistan has drained our economy of so much money, resources, and potential, that we should not jump into another mess right now.
I agree...but the world is nuts! But technically the US has occupied Korea since WW II. So it is basically a slap in our face too. I don't think it would be right to simply turn our backs. I've seen news reports that call it "War Games", I think this is far from a game.


Peccy, I don't think I would use the word "occupied" as it relates to our troops deployed in Korea. They are more like a deterent or a trip wire that, should North Korea launch an offensive and we take heavy losses (which would certainly be the case), it would provoke a robust response from an angry USA at the loss of our forces.








I highly doubt there would be a huge loss of US troops at all. We are better funded and better equiped then they could even dream to be. If we had a President that had a sack, this would have already been handled.


Yeah, about that...the funny thing about nukes is you only have to get lucky once.


It would take a lot of luck on their part being they don't even have a delivery system that works.


How do you know what they have? Did you go there and walk up to Kim Jong-il and ask him how his delivery system for his nuclear warheads was going?

Regardless, even if their luck is only in the one percentile, they only need to get lucky once. Take China for instance, they have thousands of nukes, if one percent of those nukes make it through that would be ten nukes, if ten nukes hit the United States there would simply not be a United States anymore.

North Korea is nowhere near thousands or even hundreds, but if they want to they will be, and when they are they become a very serious threat.

But **** it, not like logic has a whole lot of grab in this forum with all of you Rambo's and Terminator's. So how about you just get your passport, fly over to North Korea, purchase a gun (maybe even a fancy handgun) and try to neutralize the nuclear threat yourself. I mean hell, most of you already know how to run the country, build the economic system up, and fight multiple wars...


well, why don't we just ignore it like you seem to want to do? maybe it will just go away... all of the other "bad leaders" like the Hitlers, the napoleons, and all of the others that wanted world domination did...(they went away because we didn't just sit back and ignore them, just so you know...)


:thumbsup:

mightymoe's photo
Mon 11/29/10 04:08 PM

Obviously I'm ignoring it, or is that just an automated response from someone that doesn't really know what they are talking about but read about it on the news and suddenly became an expert?

Read about it, remember Nagasaki? Hiroshima? Both of those were only one nuke large, remember those? Doesn't take a scientist to know what will happen if we fall into nuclear war.


yea, lets talk about someone that is suddenly an expert... ignoring things like is just the stupidest thing anyone could ever do... what happens when they have thousands of nukes with nothing to control them? then we have a new world leader, because people THOUGHT it was best just to ignore them. maybe you should just stick to music, and let people that do not just "wish things would go away" handle things... it also doesn't take a very smart person to know what would happen if someone like kim got control of thousands of nukes either, music man...

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 11/29/10 05:36 PM
Well, if we're handling it nearly as good as we deal with differing opinions...we're ****ed.