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Over time I've seen different comments made by both genders stating what each puts up with. It is true that both genders come with their own set of personality traits that the other gender puts up with but when all is said and done would you want to reverse the roles?
Men do you want women to take you out to dinner and buy you flowers, etc? Women do you want to do the asking out, taking the men out and romancing them? |
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Edited by
kc0003
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Sat 11/27/10 02:43 PM
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absolutely not!
not in the traditional sense. I would be nice for there to be more of a move to the middle, but some things should remain gender specific |
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I agree with you... I have no problem paying, doing special things, etc.
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I agree with you... I have no problem paying, doing special things, etc. agree 
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In generations past, the women let the men do all of that.Now, things have changed so much that women are pretty assertive about dating(at least from my experience). They want men to wine and dine them without even even knowing them(not good). Men get to spend their hard earned money on women they don't even know because women asked them to (a scary thought because guys will do it). Women call chatlines asking for "generous gentlemen" to spend money on them. Sounds like modern prostitution to me. I was of the thought that you should get to know someone before you begin asking them for money.
If someone wants to take me out, cool. I could live with it. People need to discuss these things BEFORE they deal with each other. I love to give flowers and write cards as well as send them. That is the creative side of me. |
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I've definitely asked men out and they've had no problem with it. Of course there are some men who are intimidated by that. I've also paid at times as well.
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There are some that have expectations to be treated in ways that the relationship doesn't yet constitute BUT if a man asks me out then I don't expect that I will pay nor do I expect to NEED to have a conversation about it.. If I ask a man out then I expect that I will pay and again we will not NEED to have a conversation about it.. I have never ever been on a date where I was expected to pay but I have been on a date where I wanted out of there so badly that I paid and left...
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There are some that have expectations to be treated in ways that the relationship doesn't yet constitute BUT if a man asks me out then I don't expect that I will pay nor do I expect to NEED to have a conversation about it.. If I ask a man out then I expect that I will pay and again we will not NEED to have a conversation about it.. I have never ever been on a date where I was expected to pay but I have been on a date where I wanted out of there so badly that I paid and left... Many people think differently these days, so I never expect to have someone pay for me. I always make sure I have money to cover my share. Some men will pay the bill. Some will pay half. I think it's those who expect to have everything paid for them who need to have the conversation beforehand. |
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My presumption is that men ask women out and 'treat her like a lady' because women will never have equal access to the same high power high paying jobs as men. Women continue to make less money in the same positions even today, likely because they are the gender that will leave to raise the children. Its a balancing act. Typically, the 'treat em like a lady' bit comes in when a man wants to select a mother for his children. If the woman accepts that she will sacrifice the ability to have equal earning potential, she will have to ensure respect in her life coming from another venue. That is where the expectations come into play. People who dont want children likely get poo poo-ed in this situation. not once in my entire life have i ever thought about treating a woman with respect because she can't get a high paying job. wow...the genders do see things very differently. |
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There are some that have expectations to be treated in ways that the relationship doesn't yet constitute BUT if a man asks me out then I don't expect that I will pay nor do I expect to NEED to have a conversation about it.. If I ask a man out then I expect that I will pay and again we will not NEED to have a conversation about it.. I have never ever been on a date where I was expected to pay but I have been on a date where I wanted out of there so badly that I paid and left... Many people think differently these days, so I never expect to have someone pay for me. I always make sure I have money to cover my share. Some men will pay the bill. Some will pay half. I think it's those who expect to have everything paid for them who need to have the conversation beforehand. I've never seen this... |
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There are some that have expectations to be treated in ways that the relationship doesn't yet constitute BUT if a man asks me out then I don't expect that I will pay nor do I expect to NEED to have a conversation about it.. If I ask a man out then I expect that I will pay and again we will not NEED to have a conversation about it.. I have never ever been on a date where I was expected to pay but I have been on a date where I wanted out of there so badly that I paid and left... Many people think differently these days, so I never expect to have someone pay for me. I always make sure I have money to cover my share. Some men will pay the bill. Some will pay half. I think it's those who expect to have everything paid for them who need to have the conversation beforehand. I've never seen this... I normally offer to pay my half, rather than assuming he will pay. That's what I meant when I said some men will pay the whole bill and some will pay their half. |
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There are some that have expectations to be treated in ways that the relationship doesn't yet constitute BUT if a man asks me out then I don't expect that I will pay nor do I expect to NEED to have a conversation about it.. If I ask a man out then I expect that I will pay and again we will not NEED to have a conversation about it.. I have never ever been on a date where I was expected to pay but I have been on a date where I wanted out of there so badly that I paid and left... Many people think differently these days, so I never expect to have someone pay for me. I always make sure I have money to cover my share. Some men will pay the bill. Some will pay half. I think it's those who expect to have everything paid for them who need to have the conversation beforehand. I've never seen this... I normally offer to pay my half, rather than assuming he will pay. That's what I meant when I said some men will pay the whole bill and some will pay their half. Gotcha... I've had men get offended if I offered to pay at all.. |
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I agree with you... I have no problem paying, doing special things, etc. agree
Yep, I have no problems asking a guy out or paying for dinner. I do it because I like a man. Its not about role reversal, feminism, or any other label that society pins on you. Men whine about always paying the bill for a woman but when a woman wants to pay, they whine again and claim their masculinity is at risk. Why is it so bad to want to treat a man that I care for? |
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I agree with you... I have no problem paying, doing special things, etc. agree
Yep, I have no problems asking a guy out or paying for dinner. I do it because I like a man. Its not about role reversal, feminism, or any other label that society pins on you. Men whine about always paying the bill for a woman but when a woman wants to pay, they whine again and claim their masculinity is at risk. Why is it so bad to want to treat a man that I care for? there is nothing bad with treating a man you care for. i for one was raised with the idea that being a gentleman requires you to support your own "habits" (so to speak). if i couldn't afford to keep a woman i wouldn't ask her to be mine. once she and i are together, than who pays would not be an issue |
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There are some that have expectations to be treated in ways that the relationship doesn't yet constitute BUT if a man asks me out then I don't expect that I will pay nor do I expect to NEED to have a conversation about it.. If I ask a man out then I expect that I will pay and again we will not NEED to have a conversation about it.. I have never ever been on a date where I was expected to pay but I have been on a date where I wanted out of there so badly that I paid and left... Many people think differently these days, so I never expect to have someone pay for me. I always make sure I have money to cover my share. Some men will pay the bill. Some will pay half. I think it's those who expect to have everything paid for them who need to have the conversation beforehand. I've never seen this... I normally offer to pay my half, rather than assuming he will pay. That's what I meant when I said some men will pay the whole bill and some will pay their half. Gotcha... I've had men get offended if I offered to pay at all.. I have never once seen a man get offended when I've offered to pay. Many times, they don't let me, but they've never gotten offended. Maybe the CA guys are different. 
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There are some that have expectations to be treated in ways that the relationship doesn't yet constitute BUT if a man asks me out then I don't expect that I will pay nor do I expect to NEED to have a conversation about it.. If I ask a man out then I expect that I will pay and again we will not NEED to have a conversation about it.. I have never ever been on a date where I was expected to pay but I have been on a date where I wanted out of there so badly that I paid and left... Many people think differently these days, so I never expect to have someone pay for me. I always make sure I have money to cover my share. Some men will pay the bill. Some will pay half. I think it's those who expect to have everything paid for them who need to have the conversation beforehand. I've never seen this... I normally offer to pay my half, rather than assuming he will pay. That's what I meant when I said some men will pay the whole bill and some will pay their half. Gotcha... I've had men get offended if I offered to pay at all.. I have never once seen a man get offended when I've offered to pay. Many times, they don't let me, but they've never gotten offended. Maybe the CA guys are different.
I doubt it has to do with Cali, I lived in NJ for a long time as well... |
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I agree with you... I have no problem paying, doing special things, etc. agree
Yep, I have no problems asking a guy out or paying for dinner. I do it because I like a man. Its not about role reversal, feminism, or any other label that society pins on you. Men whine about always paying the bill for a woman but when a woman wants to pay, they whine again and claim their masculinity is at risk. Why is it so bad to want to treat a man that I care for? there is nothing bad with treating a man you care for. i for one was raised with the idea that being a gentleman requires you to support your own "habits" (so to speak). if i couldn't afford to keep a woman i wouldn't ask her to be mine. once she and i are together, than who pays would not be an issue Why would you want to afford to keep a woman? Why can't she support herself? I wouldn't want t aman to support me; I would want one I could share with. |
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The answer is the coin toss. !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Edited by
esebulldog
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Sat 11/27/10 03:28 PM
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Why would you want to afford to keep a woman? Why can't she support herself? I wouldn't want t aman to support me; I would want one I could share with. if i can't provide for a woman, i have no business looking for women (in my world). i don't care if she works, has a higher income, or what her social status is. she is her own person. thing is if i am not prepared, we might both end up on the streets. once she and i are together, then the sharing of financial responsibilities can begin if need be |
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Why would you want to afford to keep a woman? Why can't she support herself? I wouldn't want t aman to support me; I would want one I could share with. if i can't provide for a woman, i have no business looking for women (in my world). i don't care if she works, has a higher income, or what her social status is. she is her own person. thing is if i am not prepared, we might both end up on the streets. once she and i are together, then the sharing of financial responsibilities can begin if need be But why do you feel you need to provide for her? Make sure you can support yourself and you should be good to go. |
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