Interesting Read/Watch:

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

does everybody know what wellies are???!!!

well git em on!! the **** is rising

((((((((((((((((((Alex))))))))))))))))))))))) Off to work, just checking in. Tiiiiirrrrreeeedddd......

poor Grandpa

Wow! This is an extraordinarily good piece of propaganda. I teach courses on the Middle East and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and have seen a LOT of propaganda pieces by all sides. This has got to be among the best. Good music, great photographs, a clever script, with not too many internal contradictions, high-leverage factual mistakes, commissions and omissions.

Kudos to David Horowitz (the producer?). Good production values.

Useless, of course, in trying to understand what really happened. But great as a display of propaganda.


Oceans

the story from one point of view...let's see the other now...

hey makes since to me

This **** is 80% of the problem. What a load of hog wash aimed at the uneducated public. Those who refuse to pic up a book from an unbiased source and learn the truth!
Please see:http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/25682?page=2
Read it learn the truth, and save everyone the trouble of a repeat!

Why does the name David Horowitz ring a bell with me????

insert "scratching head, confused" emoticon here

if you wanna use that logic

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well i wonder how many whites were

in the north and south american continents in the year 1300

maybe they should all just get out

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and what happened to drive the jews out when they occupied
the area previously were they driven out

and taken to egypt and put into slavery

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

wonder if that is what started this whole thing

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killed it

No you didn't!

I just have some fish frying right now that require my time. I'll be back and will post here.



Oceans

With a name like Horowitz, could it be that he is a little bit biased in favour of the Israelis?

Well, in fairness, not all Jews are pro-Israeli, and several like Jeff Rubin are in the forefront of trying to rein in the Israelis, their occupation of Palestine, the illegal settlements, the Apartheid wall, their assassinations and rocket attack on Palestinians, etc.

In an odd sort of way, these Jews are more courageous than the feckless non-Jews who pass on Middle East policy in US Congress, and essentially implement without question the AIPAC (American-Israel Political Action Committee) agenda.

Also...Names aren't always a sure pointer to the political tendencies of people. J.C. Hurwitz decades ago wrote a wonderful book on the Arab-Israeli conflict, replete with documents. Objective, calm and comprehensive, his was one of the few books that a student of the Middle East could genuinely rely on. THE STRUGGLE FOR PALESTINE, 1950. I still have it in my library.

And yes, Andrea and Duncan, the name 'David Horoqitz' is niggling at me too.

Back to writing!

Oceans

David Joel Horowitz (born January 10, 1939) is an American conservative writer and activist. A prominent supporter of Marxism and a member of the New Left in the 1960s, Horowitz later rejected Leftism and now identifies with the right wing of the political spectrum. He is a founder of the David Horowitz Freedom Center (formerly the Center for the Study of Popular Culture), and has served as president of that organization for many years. He is the editor of the popular conservative website FrontPage Magazine, and his writings can also be read on prominent news sites and publications, including the conservative magazine NewsMax [28]. He founded the activist group Students for Academic Freedom and is affiliated with Campus Watch. He occasionally appears on the Fox News Channel as an analyst.

Fanta, is the Campus Watch you are referring to here the Daniel Pipes organization? If it is they are a pretty nasty bunch of thought-police.... please tell me they are not!



Oceans