right..humans are not infallible which means in some shape form or fashion Everyone Lies and Everyone Cheats which is why no one can claim to be honest ....honesty like wisdom are traits observed by others not claimed by the individual

if one deem themself to be honest then it is displayed in fairness to others and not bragged about in
haste ...honesty is displayed through actions not words

Sorry but I totally diagree with you a person knows themselves if they are honest or not.They do not and should not live their lives according to what other people deem them to be.Some people are very good at covering up who they really are, but the indvidual themselves knows who they are and what they are.

Honesty is very much displayed by words..if not then what the heck is a lie?

I think the more simple approach to answering your question.....being fair to your partner in any situation shows belief in justice and respect for others. Therefore, someone you can rely on for truth....someone you can trust.

there are no grey areas in honesty..is there such thing as a semi-honest person or an almost honest person or a maybe honest person ....telling someone that you will engage into unfairness is not honesty it only display that you are admitting to being dis-honest

So say your gf brother comes over and she loans him a hundred bucks....intends to tell you bcs you're at workand she doesn't want to bother you gets busy and forgets about you end up needing the hundred bucks and its not there and if not telling someone something is just as bad as lying....she is honest about it was it fair.....but she made a mistake unintentional do you stop trusting her if she has never done this before?

the girlfriend loaned a family member in need money and due to circumstances she had no way to tell me ...why would she have to tell me since it's her money? ........I don't see anything unfair or dishonest in your example

if trust is broken.... save yourself the time and misery and just breakup .....

But not everyone in the world would view it the same way if they do their money together....I am just saying their could be other examples that would fit but not everyone views things the same way.....and some would be upset about it..........

even so the scenerio you presented still is not about honesty...no one stole anything since you claim that part of the money belong to the girlfriend ...so can you present another example of how someone can be unfair and honest at the same instance pertaining to the same event?

well said, this is something like what I thought also. It's usually a lack of fairness that causes mistrust - like if u aren't fair with me to (for example) let me choose where we go on our next vacation, I will not trust you the next time u promise something - no matter what it is - once a loved one sees u as a promise-breaker (rather than promise keeper) they will not trust you and it takes a long time to rebuild that

interesting observations. I wonder if anyone on here ever ended a relationship and trust was NOT at the root of the break up??? Statistics cite infidelity, finances, and in-laws as the top 3 causes of splits, but IMO it trust that is the root of all of those issues. And whether or not the trust can be repaired, or repaired enough for intimacy to flourish (and therefore the relationship)