Topic: Anyone see this?
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Mon 10/11/10 04:56 AM
This whole discussion is a race card. Dont people have any better issues to discuss??

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Mon 10/11/10 07:50 AM



Obama was caught several times with his hand on his heart at the national anthem, imagine that??!!!

This is really old news and has been disputed several times.

As to racism, dating outside your race doesn't make one unracist.
Being white in a white majority country makes it really hard to understand racism from the perspective of a non white who is living it daily.

A country that has been teaching white superiority racism since its inception seems to have a hard time undoing hundreds of years of teaching.


Fear of the different is instinctive to the human species. However, w/ a little reason and intelligence, this very primative instinct is easy to overcome.
Why America seems to be taking longer to overcome this than most other civilized nations is a shame. I think it has something to do w/ having a war end slavery instead of a general recognition of the absolute evil of enslaving a group of intelligent beings simply because they look different than the majority of intelligent beings.


Freeing an oppressed people without changing the dynamic of the oppressors is almost an act of futility.

The south here is like stepping back a hundred years when it comes to race relations. They pretend to tolerate each other but the underlying resentment is always there. Their form of non racism means that in public they will interact almost civilly but in their homes or in their groups there is no tolerance for interracial interactions. There have been lines drawn and they are strictly enforced.


Yeah. I hate that crap. It's an interesting, and depressing, example of a socialogical disorder. It's based on ignorance and stupidity. The cure is knowledge and reason. Unfortunatly, knowledge and reason aren't held in high regard in much of the "south".

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Mon 10/11/10 07:57 AM

My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.


It's a pity that anyone still gives a crap about something as irrelevant as skin pigmentation.

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Mon 10/11/10 08:03 AM



My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.
laugh Are you aware that we live in the 21st century?



which makes it even sadder that INSTITUTIONAL discrimination still exists,,,

that when it comes to first time drug offenses black youths are incarcerated almost fifty times as often ( Human Rights Watch, 2000. Punishment and Prejudice: Racial Disparities in the War on Drugs. DC: May, Volume 12, No. 2)

that black males without a record are not as likely to get a call back for employment as white males with a record
(2003, The Mark of a Criminal Record." American Journal of Sociology. Volume 108: 5, March: 937-75.)


that black males are more likely to be stopped and searched for drugs than their white counterparts even though those counterparts are more likely to be found with drugs when searched ( Findings from the 2002 National Survey. U.S. Department of Justice, (Bureau of Justice Statistics), April 2005.


the list could go on and on,, institutional racism is a real thing and not just some CARD that people bring up for some imagined benefit,,,



Just one of the reasons I could never be a cop. I'd end up fighting with then getting shot by my follow officers.

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Mon 10/11/10 09:00 AM



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o&feature=related


September 2007...modern cuture does not require it and he didn't "refuse", probably forgot...why is this news or a current event?

Message to other Stormfront followers here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1885586220070718

How ya' like them apples...






Your personal attacks on people need to stop, how old are you? Just askin.

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Mon 10/11/10 09:02 AM

My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.


You have a daughter? bigsmile

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Mon 10/11/10 09:03 AM



My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.



wow, how old is your daughter?




23


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Mon 10/11/10 11:44 AM




Ill take you down to the ghetto where I grew up. I promise you I can show you what it's like to have people hate you just because you are white. Go ahead and bring your daughter along as well. The two of you could use an education on the real world.



I agree, white people who have grown up in certain parts know all about being hated for the color of their skin.


Thanks! I was beginning to wonder if I really was the only white person out there ! LOL


Im a little confused..you keep referring to yourself as a "white person", do you mean a fair skinned latina..? because your features are much closer to latino than anglo...



LOL I don't have a drop of Latin blood in me. (not that I wouldn't like any )lol .
I am Italian(Maltese really but no one knows what that means lol) welsh,native american and German.

I dye my hair black BTW.

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Mon 10/11/10 11:45 AM


My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.
laugh Are you aware that we live in the 21st century?


LOL I was wondering that myself.

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Mon 10/11/10 11:55 AM




My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.



wow, how old is your daughter?




23


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She's married. And way cuter than me.:tongue:

As to my daughter not being aware of white prejudice, I never taught it to her.

I taught my children that people are equal regardless to race, sexual orientation, etc... She has been shown the hatred by others. She really saw it when Obama was campaigning.

She thinks it is important for people to like you. She doesn't understand growing up black and knowing people don't like you because of the color of your skin. Something you have no control over.

She doesn't judge by skin, she judges by actions as I taught her. She dated whoever she liked no matter what their skin color and she treated them all the same.

I am proud of her. She is an upstanding human who makes the human race look good.

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Mon 10/11/10 01:04 PM





My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.



wow, how old is your daughter?




23


love


She's married. And way cuter than me.:tongue:

As to my daughter not being aware of white prejudice, I never taught it to her.

I taught my children that people are equal regardless to race, sexual orientation, etc... She has been shown the hatred by others. She really saw it when Obama was campaigning.

She thinks it is important for people to like you. She doesn't understand growing up black and knowing people don't like you because of the color of your skin. Something you have no control over.

She doesn't judge by skin, she judges by actions as I taught her. She dated whoever she liked no matter what their skin color and she treated them all the same.

I am proud of her. She is an upstanding human who makes the human race look good.



congratulations, I feel the same about my children who have learned hard lessons about race relations but still manage to be happy, healthy,optimistic(that one was hard to accomplish,,lol) and loving individuals

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Mon 10/11/10 08:04 PM
Tonka, I usually ignore your comments for reasons I better not state, but this is interesting:


All humans have a built in instinct to identify with their own kind.


Maybe, but our own kind is 'humans'. Any genetic inclination we may have to identify with a smaller, closer knit group could manifest in a number of different ways - I think it ridiculous to assume that skin color or genetic heritage will automatically (without cultural influence) play a role in this.

Its a nice thought, though, for those that want to justify their racism.


In no way does that automatically make one a racist....lots of times its just what we do even without realizing it.


I agree we do it without being aware of it, but do to subconscious cultural indoctrination - not genetics.



They had them all mixed together. Then after several hours of being left alone, they came back and checked up on them, and they had all segregated themselves!!


And this tells us what? We can also find violent, forceful sex; brutal, pointless killings; slavery; and genocide in the animal kingdom. I don't look to non-human animals to decide how humans ought to behave.



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Mon 10/11/10 08:09 PM

institutional racism is a real thing and not just some CARD that people bring up for some imagined benefit,,,


I absolutely agree. It is not *only* some card that is brought out, but it is *also* a card that is brought out.

Institutional racism is real. Institutional racism is also a card that is played in situations that had nothing to do with racism.


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Mon 10/11/10 09:08 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 10/11/10 09:29 PM


institutional racism is a real thing and not just some CARD that people bring up for some imagined benefit,,,


I absolutely agree. It is not *only* some card that is brought out, but it is *also* a card that is brought out.

Institutional racism is real. Institutional racism is also a card that is played in situations that had nothing to do with racism.




Considering that white racists are the ones who created the ideal of a race card to help to diminish their victims and make it easier for them to continue to do what they want to do, I would be careful even considering it as a valid concept.

How can one prove that it isn't racism in these situations? If an individual feels racially profiled in any situation, how can one say they are wrong?

Rachel78745's photo
Mon 10/11/10 09:12 PM



institutional racism is a real thing and not just some CARD that people bring up for some imagined benefit,,,


I absolutely agree. It is not *only* some card that is brought out, but it is *also* a card that is brought out.

Institutional racism is real. Institutional racism is also a card that is played in situations that had nothing to do with racism.




Considering that white racists are the ones who created the ideal of a race card to help to diminish their victims and make it easier for them to continue to do what they want to do.



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Mon 10/11/10 09:14 PM

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Mon 10/11/10 09:30 PM





Ill take you down to the ghetto where I grew up. I promise you I can show you what it's like to have people hate you just because you are white. Go ahead and bring your daughter along as well. The two of you could use an education on the real world.



I agree, white people who have grown up in certain parts know all about being hated for the color of their skin.


Thanks! I was beginning to wonder if I really was the only white person out there ! LOL


Im a little confused..you keep referring to yourself as a "white person", do you mean a fair skinned latina..? because your features are much closer to latino than anglo...



LOL I don't have a drop of Latin blood in me. (not that I wouldn't like any )lol .
I am Italian(Maltese really but no one knows what that means lol) welsh,native american and German.

I dye my hair black BTW.


well you would fit right in over here...laugh

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Mon 10/11/10 09:34 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 10/11/10 09:35 PM
I won't insult other readers on this site by showing hatred about non whites because I have more class than that.

Hatred is wrong no matter what but white racism in this country is far worse than all others.

Actually white racism against other races and discrimination against gays is the worse in this country.

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Mon 10/11/10 11:25 PM


institutional racism is a real thing and not just some CARD that people bring up for some imagined benefit,,,


I absolutely agree. It is not *only* some card that is brought out, but it is *also* a card that is brought out.

Institutional racism is real. Institutional racism is also a card that is played in situations that had nothing to do with racism.





it cant be denied that the extremes exist,, those who believe EVERYTHING is racism, and those who believe NOTHING is racism

but what I evidence is that when someone MENTIONS issues related to race relations in america the point is automatically labeled a 'race card'


kind of seems like a ploy of those who wish people would just 'shut up' about racism,,,

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Tue 10/12/10 08:45 AM





My daughter said to me "Mom, how will Obama deal with all this racist hatred pointed at him?" I told her "That is nothing new for black folks, they deal with it every day" And she looked confused. Of course she is white and has no understanding of a person hating you just for your skin color. Treating you differently because you are not white.



wow, how old is your daughter?




23


love


She's married. And way cuter than me.:tongue:

As to my daughter not being aware of white prejudice, I never taught it to her.

I taught my children that people are equal regardless to race, sexual orientation, etc... She has been shown the hatred by others. She really saw it when Obama was campaigning.

She thinks it is important for people to like you. She doesn't understand growing up black and knowing people don't like you because of the color of your skin. Something you have no control over.

She doesn't judge by skin, she judges by actions as I taught her. She dated whoever she liked no matter what their skin color and she treated them all the same.

I am proud of her. She is an upstanding human who makes the human race look good.


:thumbsup: