Yep, I agree that one doesn't reflect all.

Ahh, sorry, I never was one who tolerated threats. I have a nice file on his *** about his verbal threats. The neighbor who is a cop and the neighbor who is a US Marshall would be the first to receive all that paperwork, if dad didn't just kill him first. Fortunately, he's gone his own way, and other then last year when a mutual aquaintance blew his own brains out, I haven't had any contact.

I call it like I see it. If a guy is a loser or an *******, then I will call him that.

Just remember "Yesterday is the only easy day". That's their saying.

lol, but do you call out the GIRLS on it too,,,

Oh yea, don't ring the damn bell.

Actually the Army Delta Force primarily train with the Seals..........

The two things that are stressing me out the most is the 50 meter underwater swim (don't try this at home) and hell week. Hell week is about as nasty as you get. 5 and a half days with 4 hours of sleep if your lucky and they constantly work you. I think you end up running over a hundred miles in that week. You eat a meal every 6 hours and consume over 10,000 calories a day. Yeah a lot of food and i hear that people even go in there pants. This is the worst part and more people drop out that week than any other obstacle of training. The people that make it past that week almost always graduate from bud/s unless you get an injury. Still after that there are like 4 and a half months until graduation. The 50 meter underwater swim stresses me out because over half the trainees blackout before making it. I've never experienced that before.

Over half? They try to make you black out. it is more like EVERYONE going through this does black out in it. I mean they will push you until you do. the 50 meter is one of the stress tests they force you to endure because with extended operations underwater they want you to experience the physical trauma so you do not get yourself int a pickle on a mission. All you can do is face your fears. Fear is the one thing you need to get trained past.

You will be a seal with an attitude once you get past the training. Don't be surprised if you have to run at night completely buck azzed naked while they hose you down with cold water. Like I said, get ready to be cold and wet for a while. Heck, what marine Mountaineers suffer from in training is just as bad. I had cold weather training and it sucked. I hate the cold and I hate snow more. Unless you know how to make snowshoes on the fly snow will slow you down a lot and rob you of badly needed energy trying to navigate in it.

If you got the backbone and the resolve you will do fine. You just got to get through hell before you get to heaven!

Oh yes! Most definitely!

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


Bene Gesserit Quote, Frank Herbert's Dune

That's true forgot about the cold part. This training takes place in Coronado which is by San Diego. It is always between 40 and 80 degrees and it tends to be colder in the winter so i hope i do this in the summer. The worst part about it is that you will have your clothes on the whole time and your boots. At night they will make you jump right into ocean and they constanty make you get wet. And yes I definitely have to overcome my fear on the underwater swim. Drownproofing is what gets a lot of people too.

That's true forgot about the cold part. This training takes place in Coronado which is by San Diego. It is always between 40 and 80 degrees and it tends to be colder in the winter so i hope i do this in the summer. The worst part about it is that you will have your clothes on the whole time and your boots. At night they will make you jump right into ocean and they constanty make you get wet. And yes I definitely have to overcome my fear on the underwater swim. Drownproofing is what gets a lot of people too.



Ethan, were you not taught how to swim as a youngster?

My parents were drownproofing me and my brother at 6 months old, and making adjustments as we grew up.

Granted, things happen, but some of this should be fairly basic, even within the ocean.


Edit - Silly me, considering the news has to run a twice yearly how-to guide on how to get out if an ocean current snags you, perhaps I'm wrong.

Ethan, were you not taught how to swim as a youngster?

My parents were drownproofing me and my brother at 6 months old, and making adjustments as we grew up.

Granted, things happen, but some of this should be fairly basic, even within the ocean.


Edit - Silly me, considering the news has to run a twice yearly how-to guide on how to get out if an ocean current snags you, perhaps I'm wrong.
This drownproofing is hell on ice for some people. It is taken place in a 9 feet deep pool and they tie your hands behind your back and they tie your feet together. You bob 5 minutes and then you stay afloat for 5 minutes and then you swim one-hundred meters and then they throw objects at the bottom of the pool and you have to go down and pick them up with your teeth. Then you bob for 5 more minutes, then it's over.

Yep, I know. Chit, we did that for fun growing up. My parents had an aboveground swimming pool that was 4ft deep at one end and 15ft deep at the other end, and 60 ft long. I could swim it without ever coming up for air. The only one in our family who didn't know how to swim was apparently the one dog Bear. She never learned either.

But we were taught how to float as babies, and my folks NEVER did the little floatie toys with us. Later we got into the details and such that like bobbing up and down. WE also got cold water training like if one fell through ice, and how to survive.

HOOYAH!!!

Swim, swim, swim. And when you're done with that...swim some more.

Good luck,

K.

actually, as the recruiter told my brother


you dont have to swim well, you just have to sink,,,lol


but that could have just been for the underwater munitions experts,,,

In case you are not familiar with the pacific ocean and being a diver I must warn you, if the water temp is 70Deg you got LUCKY becasue it is only when the El Nino rolls in when we get warm water here. When it does the Yellow tail run! TASTY SUSHI FISH! Normally though the water temp here is between 51 and 64 degrees. And that is not the first Thermalcline. When you dive down about 10 to 12 feet you hit this barrier where the water suddenly gets MUCH MUCH colder. Down to the upper 30s. When you pass about sixty feet you hit the next thermalcline. Without a suit you will get frostbite deeper than that usually. We had one guy on our boat who was a Navy Seal and he was nuts. He would ride the anchor down and swim back up. We sent him to 150 feet before with no suit. The guy was nuts and tough as nails. he also was Mister Safety when we dove and checked us all out before we went over the rail.

The water here is COLD. Even most surfers wear a suit unless we are having a really hot day. And if you are one of December's children the rain here is hard, and cold, and when you add wind chill, Your nuggets are going to suck up into your abdomen!

Do not let that chase you away. Cold weather survival takes training and so does dealing with cold water. They want you ready for worst case scenarios. The reality of it is when you begin combat training you will be issued a dive suit. With wetsuits the first few minuets suck as you warm up. Once you warm up though it is game on.

And later in training you get to play with High Explosives. DON'T EVER SAY THAT IN FRONT OF THE DIs OR THEY WILL RIP YOU A NEW ONE! But still, you get to make things go KABOOM! LUCKY!

Yes I am jealous of that. I actually had given a lot of thought to working for a company that knocks down buildings with High X for a living. When destructive tendencies are used constructively than it is good...

Blowing up Taliban and Al Quieda also is a good thing! On top of that a lot of new gear is reaching the battlefield and you get to use it!

Any elite force training is as much mental as it is physical.

Do what you are told, and don't quit.