Samuel 18:25-27 "Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired, David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife."

THIS IS A CASE OF AN INSECURE LEADER PUTTING SOMEONE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY MIGHT BE KILLED IN ORDER THAT THEY NOT BE CONTESTED. THIS HAPPENS IN NEARLY EVERY WORK PLACE IN AMERICA TODAY. THERE ARE POWER STRUGGLES AND PUT DOWNS OF THOSE WHO ARE REALLY TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB. IN THIS CASE, ISRAEL WAS AT WAR WITH THE PHILISTINES. DAVID WAS PROMISED THE DAUGHTER OF THE KING IF HE WOULD KILL ONE HUNDRED OF ISRAEL'S ENEMIES. THE PROOF OF THEIR DEATH WOULD BE THEIR FORESKINS. DAVID TOOK THESE AFTER THE MEN WERE DEAD, AND THE ENTIRE OBJECT WAS TO MAKE THE PHILISTINES HATE DAVID, AND KILL HIM SO THAT HE WOULD NOT BE A FUTURE THREAT TO THE KING. IF PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THAT THIS IS TYPICAL POLITICAL INTRIGUE THAT GOES ON TODAY, ONLY FORESKINS ARE NOT THE ISSUE, SECRETS, LEAKS, AND POLITICAL FUTURES ARE STILL THE ISSUE.

Numbers 11:18 “And tell the people to purify themselves, for tomorrow they will have meat to eat. Tell them, ‘The LORD has heard your whining and complaints: ‘If only we had meat to eat! Surely we were better off in Egypt!’ Now the LORD will give you meat, and you will have to eat it. And it won’t be for just a day or two, or for five or ten or even twenty. You will eat it for a whole month until you gag and are sick of it. For you have rejected the LORD, who is here among you, and you have complained to him, ‘Why did we ever leave Egypt?’“

GOD HAD PERFORMED NUMEROUS MIRACLES BRINGING THE ISRAELITES OUT OF EGYPT. HE GAVE THEM MANNA TO THE TUNE OF 10 TRAINS 30 CARS LONG TO THE OVER 2 MILLION PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY. BUT THEY WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH THIS, THEY WANTED MEAT TO EAT. OF COURSE THEY HAD SHEEP AND OXEN, BUT THAT WAS THEIR WEALTH TO THEM. THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT GOD HAD GIVEN THEM.

DO WE EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE? OR ARE WE LIKE PAUL WHO WAS CONTENT IN WHAT EVER STATE HE FOUND HIMSELF IN. THIS IS ANOTHER WONDERFUL LESSON FOR US.

1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Ezekial 23:19-20 "Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions."

THIS IS NOT SPEAKING OF A WOMAN LITTERALLY HAVING SEX WITH MEN WHOSE GENITALS WERE AS LARGE AS DONKEYS, OR THEIR EMMISSIONS LIKE STALLIONS. IT IS REFERRING TO GOD'S JEALOUSY REGARDING THAT THE LOVE ISRAEL AND JUDAH WERE TO HAVE FOR HIM. MOST BELIEVERS ARE UNAWARE THAT JUDAH AND ISRAEL SPLIT AS A RESULT OF ISRAEL WORSHIPING ASHTORETH (LOOK IT UP--BELIEVER WORSHIP HER TODAY) THIS ACCOUNT IS REFERRING TO GOD'S ANGER IN THAT THE OLD COVENANT WAS A MARRIAGE AGREEMENT, AND THAT ISRAEL FIRST, THEN ABOUT 100 YEARS LATER, JUDAH TURNED TO OTHER GODS LIKE THEY DID IN EGYPT (REMEMBER THE CALF).

Jer 3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

READ THE CONTEXT, IT MAKES IT PRETTY CLEAR:

Eze 23:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Eze 23:2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother: Eze 23:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity. Eze 23:4 And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah. Eze 23:5 And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Eze 23:6 Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Eze 23:7 Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Eze 23:8 Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her. Eze 23:9 Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted. Eze 23:10 These discovered her nakedness: they took her sons and her daughters and slew her with the sword: and she became famous among women; for they had executed judgment upon her. Eze 23:11 And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms.
Eze 23:12 She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Eze 23:13 Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, Eze 23:14 And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Eze 23:15 Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity:
Eze 23:16 And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. Eze 23:17 And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. Eze 23:18 So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Eze 23:19 Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. Eze 23:20 For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of *****, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Eze 23:21 Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth.
Eze 23:22 Therefore, O Aholibah, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will raise up thy lovers against thee, from whom thy mind is lienated, and I will bring them against thee on every side; Eze 23:23 The Babylonians, and all the Chaldeans, Pekod, and Shoa, and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them: all of them desirable young men, captains and rulers, great lords and renowned, all of them riding upon horses. Eze 23:24 And they shall come against thee with chariots, wagons, and wheels, and with an assembly of people, which shall set against thee buckler and shield and helmet round about: and I will set judgment before them, and they shall judge thee according to their judgments.

SO MY POINT IN ALL THIS IS THAT THE SCRIPTURES MAKE PERFECT SENSE WHEN WE READ THEM IN CONTEXT, AND THE PRINCIPLES CONTAINED IN THEM ARE STILL VALID TODAY. RATHER THAN LOOK AT THEM AS FUNNY OR UNUSUALLY, WE SHOULD TREMBLE AT GOD'S WORD AND STRIVE OUR BEST TO LIVE BY IT.

delusions of self grandeaur.

created by religion.

and belief that self knows of god more than others.

plain and simple.

but, as he rubbed his fine wise chin with just one more stroke, he thinks of how he should rule the world, and set the entire world straight, of course, upon the straight and narrow, to teach people a good lesson, for turning their backs on god...

ah...

but...

little did he know, that satan had crept into his brain, and gobbled up brain cells, and that other people just seen the horns protruding from his head, that he did not see himself, since he had long ago, given up looking into the self mirror, why the day 'god saved him', was the day the self mirror was given up.

no need for it now.

as self FOUND THE TRUTH OF GOD!

HOORAY!

and demons in hell did tremble, for a human had found the secrets of god, hidden in plain site in a book for the whole world...

ah, but what the little old man found in the book was the real mccoy, no dounts about it...

and so he walked about, as one that see's many leper's, and began the great battle of the cross, to stand for jesus and god...

and so, as the self as supreme flowed from his mouth as rivers of self worship and self as supreme flowed and crushed his loved ones, and many ran from him, but he heard that such was the plight of the true believer, and so decided it was the plight he should bear, and the poor little man rubbed his little chinny chin chin again, and forgot, that it twas once said, let noting steal one's unconditional love for one's family, and one's friends, and to not let anything steal that, not religion, not belief, and certainnly not one word from the good ole book.

why my oh my...

for that to be stolen by words in a book, would mean one's own crown would have been surrendered, given up, all because the little old man was first afraid for HIMSELF, and did not want god to be mad at him, and certainly not cast him into hell's fires...



and all joy was removed from him, for he had forsaken his loved one's, in favor of protecting himself from dissaproval, which would mean cast out of heaven, and surely into hell.

ah, but only if the little old man had seen such, then joy twould have been found again, and love and friends came back, and they treated as royalty, as those one loves aught to be treated.

and peace was no longer sought after for oneself, and good for oneself, but rather peace and happiness and love for others, and the little old man with the means to create it for his loved one's, brought love and smiles and good cheer to all he loved.

and it was christman time.

what a befitting time for the return of love for others as more important than belief.

and the ole faithful companion the book was retired, for now the old man who rubbed his chinny chin chin, got to talk with god personally, so no longer needed a book in it's place, for the voice of god as love was uttered from every person he loved, he had just not heard it before...

and there was joy all through the house of the little old man, who rubbed his chinny chin chin.

It's not about knowing God "more, better, or any other". It's about shining the light on the world and opening their eyes to the truth. Nothing about self grandeur. There is nothing of personal profit for teaching people of the father. Just because I spend hours upon hours telling people of the lord and teaching them about our father does not mean i'll get a mansion in heaven, nor does it even mean i'll get to heaven. I know not if i'll get to heaven, I know not if you'll get to heaven. None of us know whom will get to heaven until judgement day, that decision is up to our father.

Many more caring humans have only gotten smart enough to push hypocisy and hate and bias out of common sense.

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT YOU ARE A CARRING HUMAN THAT HAS PUSHED HYPOCRICY AND HATE AND BIAS OUT SO THAT YOU HAVE COMMMON SENSE?

THE REASON I ASK THIS IS BECAUSE GOD ACTUALLY HATES HYPOCRISY, HATRED AND BIAS. HE IS THE AUTHOR OF COMMON SENSE. ALL THE MAN MADE RELIGIONS HAVE ADOPTED SOME FORM OF THE LAST SIX COMMANDMENTS. THEY SIMPLY REJECT THE FIRST FOUR WHICH TELL US HOW TO LOVE GOD. THAT IS ACTUALLY REAL CARING AND REAL LOVE TOWARD OTHERS.

many more caring humans have simply learned that no representation of god ever made by human man is anything they want.

NO SIR, THAT IS NOT TRUE. MEN LOVE FAKE REPRESENTATIONS OF GOD. THEY LIKE MATERIALISM MORE THAN GOD--THINGS--STUFF-SEX--MONEY--POWER. THESE ARE THEIR GODS.

many that love their fellow man, whether they be in china, or anywhere else, refuse to allow such bigotry spread in the name of god to decide human direction.

I AM SURE THAT YOU ARE A CARING HUMAN BEING. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR CARE MIGHT BE MISPLACED. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT WE SHOULD NOT LOVE THE PEOPLE OF CHINA, BUT IF YOU THINK THAT THEIR RELIGION IS GOOD, YOU ARE BEING SILLY MINDED. LOOK WHAT IT HAS DONE FOR THEM. IF YOU THINK THEIR GOVERNMENT IS GOOD, IT IS MORE SILLY, AND ACTUALLY DANGEROUS. IF YOU THINK THAT OUR CORPORATIONS ARE NO9T SELLING OUT TO THEM, AS WE ALLOW THEM TO TERRIBLY MISTREAT THEIR WORKERS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE CHEAPER PRICES AND PUT AMERICANS OUT OF BUSINNESS, THAT IS PLAIN BLINDNES. SORRY, BUT I THOUGHT YOU DID NOT LIKE HYPOCRISY AND BIAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

Many that care about women and children simply could give a fucck less about getting to heaven for themself.

WELL I SEE THAT YOUR PARENTS DID NOT TEACH YOU HOW TO TALK DID THEY?
I GUESS NO ONE TAUGHT YOU TO READ AND THINK EITHER. REGARDING MY POSTS, I NEVER SPOKE OF GOING TO HEAVEN. THE SCRIPTURES SPEAK OF CHRIST COMING TO RULE THIS EARTH AND TO RESTORE IT TO HIS CONTROL, AND HIS LAW (REV 5:10).

many that care enough have become wise enough to see that any belief that espouses SOME OF GOD, AND SOME NOT OF GOD, KILLS IN THE END.

SO, ARE YOU SAYING YOU ESPOUSE ALL OF GOD? DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU FOLLOW THE TEN COMMANDMENTS? THOSE ARE HIS DON'T YOU THINK?

many that care more simply care enough to want TYRANTS WHOM DEMAND HOW OTHER'S SHOULD SLEEP, LOVE, EAT, DRESS, TALK, PAINT, DANCE, HAVE SEX, BE SEEN FOR THE TYRANTS OF SELF IMPORTANCE THEY ARE.

DO YOU MEAN LIKE CHINA FOR EXAMPLE? PERHAPS YOU ARE SPEAKING OF MUSLIMS. PERHAPS YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD PROPERLY BECAUSE OF FALSE TEACERS OF THE BIBLE. GOD GIVES 10 COMMANDS AND A NUMBER OF STATUTES THAT ARE FOR THE GOOD OF SOCIETY AND HUMAN BEINGS. HE CARES, SO HE REVEALED THINGS, WE COULD NOT KNOW. I DO UNDERSTAND HOW MEN HAVE MISUSED HIS WORD. YOU MIGHT FIND THE MOVIE THE BOOK OF ELI INTERESTING IN THIS REGARD. BAD GUYS WANT TO CONTROL OTHERS, AND THEY HAVE NO FEAR IN USING GOD'S WORD TO DO SO. BUT YOU ARE DISCOUNTING GOD'S WORD. THIS IS NOT CARING, IT IS NOT THINKING.

many simply refuse to be treated as children any longer, by those that embrace religions but think with less intellect and reasoning and logic than a child.

PERHAPS YOU HAVE NOT NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ACTING LIKE A CHILD. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN RELIGION, AND THAT YOU HAVE CREATED IT OUT OF YOUR INTELLECT, REASONING, AND LOGIC. HOWEVER, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FEELINGS. IT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THE TRUTH.

whew... thank god. the end of all religions draws nigh.
the end of the curse of mankind. the end of the beast that decieved all mankind at some time or other. whew... what a lot of killling it took.. till finally no religions.

ACTUALLY, GOD WILL COME AND DESTROY MAN'S RELIGIONS. THEN, HE WILL ESTABLISH HIS OWN. HE STATES THAT DAVID WILL RULE OVER ISRAEL, THAT THE 12 DISCIPLES WILL EACH RULE OVER A TRIBE, AND THAT THE ENTIRE WORLD WILL SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE AND WORSHIP HIM ACCORDING TO HIS LAW. I KNOW YOU WILL BE FRUSTRATED AT FIRST TO KNOW THAT GOD HAS A RELIGION, BUT IF YOU COULD FIND IT IN YOUR HEART TO CARE ABOUT GOD, YOU WILL FIND THAT HIS RELIGION IS LESS CONTROLLING THAN THOSE OF MEN. HOWEVER, THE LEWDNESS OF OUR NATION TODAY WITH ITS PORN, AND THE GRAFT IN GOVERNMENT, AND LIES AND CHEATING BY CORPORATIONS WILL HAVE TO GO. CARING GETS TO STAY.

WHEW! GOOD POINT! WONT THIS BE FUN?

Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; Isa 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. Isa 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. Isa 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. Isa 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.
Isa 11:13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim. Isa 11:14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them. Isa 11:15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod. Isa 11:16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.

Shalom Art.

Just wanted to say good to see you on here. In all i see you write you are the closest one i have seen on here to believe what I believe to be true.

Its simple really.. I see all this OT and Nt stuff as if Yahweh made a mistake.. When in all eventuality the Nt is a Spiritual guidence of the old that Israel had a hard time with.

We see this in how indignant the religious leaders of Yahshua's time on earth hated him even though they could not find anything he said as wrong.

Power was what it was all about the same as today.

I am glad to see the few who understand the Holy Scriptures is one continuos book of Life's instructions to mankind.

Makes the scriptures come alive and the prophets testimony of they see but they are blind. They hear yet they do not understand.

To them evil is good and good evil.The Spirit speaks but who will listen. May Yahweh of Hosts Bless You and Yours..Shalom...Miles

find some new rethoric will ya.

this stuff been spewed for 2000 years now...

guess it aint hit ya yet it aint the truth, lol...

for if it was the truth, it would have been able to move all hell or heaven from it's path...

so carry on spewing out stale bread, trying to create and impose self as gods.

and by the way.

nay...

these are none based on my feelings, rather but believing in the feelings of those whom can't stand hate and bigotry posed as unconditional love.

for there is no dogma under the heavens, nor any doctrine from hell, that declares some are of god, and some are not, that if of any good but to be burned.

peace out my fellow gods.

i will stay human.

and you can be the gods.

so be it as you wish.

but forget not, false gods burn in hell, lol...

You wish to tell us not to spread our bigotry. It's you that's spreading bigotry my friend.

Definition for Bigot - A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.

A Bigot is one whom spreads bigotry. So how are you not also a bigot spreading bigotry when you come here spreading your "opinions and prejudices" which you are devoted to? What makes you special and not a bigot?

im the fuccking biggest bigot on planet earth, AND totally HATE many and many.

lol...

for i am the devil himself.

lol...

who has told you not to spread your lies?

me?

lie all you wish.

who has said to stop believing what you belief?

lol...

for these words but only said how such is not TRUTH OF GOD.

you think it is.

who gives a fucck beyond saying what each thinks any words shall create.

my words are hate themself.

but only to what wishes to rule the world as gods, believing their belief should instruct the lives of all others, and decide whom shall exist no more, lol...

really now.

preach till your blue in the face, and lost all your breath, then you will become enlightened, and saved from satan.

and become a bigot for god as i.

lol...

Much love out to you man.

i don't need your love, nor want your love...

save it for those in your life, whom are not good enough for ya, and you turned your back on, since they didn't want to buy and purchase a piece of heavenly real estate for themself.

Everyone is good enough for me, i'm the one whom isn't good enough for them. I turned my back on no one. And you can not "purchase" a piece of heaven. It is earned through your love of our father and the obedience to what he has told us to do or not to do. There's nothing you could barter with God about to receive heaven or give him, for everything is already his. There's no way to "buy" your way into heaven, it is earned through love and obedience. I can't get you to heaven, nor can you I. The only one that can get you to heaven is you.

ah dear god cowboy...

did ye not hear the words ye spoke, that it is EARNED FOR SELF BY OBEDIENCE TO GOD...

that aint god dude.

thats the devil

member.

IT IS THE DEVIL THAT THE BOOK SAYS WHISPERS GOOD FOR SELF.

lol...

it is the DEVIL that tells oneself it will get heaven if it IS OBEDIENT.

WAS JESUS OBEDIANT TO THE WORDS OF TEXT?

HELL NO!

it was the scribes and pharisee's...

it was the religous.

hello!

it is the devil that offers self GOOD FOR SELF.

how plain can it be.

No he was not obedient to the laws of the old covenant because the old covenant had been fulfilled, completed, finished. He was obedient to the new covenant which he gave to the world. He failed at not one thing. The old testament held no more power with the coming of Jesus, so as a matter of fact there was nothing to be "disobedient" to in the old covenant because it held no more power.

You are truly truly truly stuck on the bettering of one self or good for one self. Obeying our father is NOT for the bettering of one self, or the good of one self. It is for being obedient to our father which art in heaven. It is for loving the people of this world and bettering the world. Not the bettering of one self.

WHATEVER GOD.

you said self earned heaven by being obediant to the father.

i am indeed a devil to you.

and shall always be.

but make no mistake, it is devils that carry child gods to heaven.

I am not God.

i address you as god, because you make yourself one, whether you can yet see it or not.

i have no compassion of self declared speakers for god.

so, i shall be your devil.



and carry you to the bowels of hell.

for forget not, jesus had to ascend to hell, to get the keys to the kingdom.

so, hope your are prepared to follow in his footsteps.

Know ye not that ye are gods and children of the most high? Take me where ever you think you can, nothing stands in my path with our father leading my path.