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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Anyone remember the Iran-Contra hearings? Ollie North ( who i used to like) was being basically tried on TV for suppying arms to Iran. He did not report to any commander he never revealed who he really worked for but our military and congress and the white house tried to make him an enemy. It was so cool how he turned it around on them and made them look like fools on National Tv but u know what he did his job still.. To protect the president at any cost which he did because thats the only one who really could give his approval to supply Iran arms.. Why did we do that? They were fighting Iraq whgo at the time had the strongest military in the middle east.. Well we know the rest of the story. Then what did we do... we supplied Bin Laden the training and Arms to fight soviet helecopters in Aphganistan. Wow when we want we give our enemies anything they need.. In the background of cource and then its.. DENY DENY DENY.. Remember Bush in the early 2000'w after 911. I saw a post about Clinton did nothing.... You shouold read up on what Clinton did and how congress stopped him. But a big denial was the Dr. Rice he turned over to them intel and a plan that was already in motion to kill Bin Laden and where to do it. What did they do ..they scrapped oit said it was failed intel.. would not even look at it. It had in it that thier intel said he was getting ready for a major attack against the US on our soil and it was imminent to kill him and wipe out his Al Queda. No good we will make our own plan and details. Remember how pissed Clinton got when ABC asked him about Dr Rice saying she got nothiong from his administration? That was no put on he was totally pissed because he knew they could of possibly prevented 911 and they lied about what was given to them. Anyone who does have our nations highest secrets have been screened so deep for months if not years before they were given that clearance.. I almost wonder if this young man they knew had problems and used him as a scapegoat being so young and nieve. It would not be hard to do as a stunt to get us away from something in the background that was going on under our own knows but all we heard was about this. I wonder what it was anyone have any idea? I think he should go to prison for several years but i really have never seen anything thats deserves a young mans life ruined forever it is now anywazes. but u know our people blowing away people who clearly were not shooting at us is murder and that was being covered up. So his name is Mudd now huh.. I like your post, and the point you made about using a scapegoat as a diversion to keep us from noticing something in the background. yea it was cool we were on the same page.. look at the time of the postings and we posted 1 minute apart 10 30 and 10 31.. That was pretty wild we were on the same page or thinking at the same time. I know they make people scapegoats and alot of the time its when something else is going on.. they are very cunning and the ends to a means is what its all about. I had a secret job in the service got out when i was 24 that was in 1984. I thought what i was doing was no big deal i9 knew we were threatened about talking about what we did and briefings about stuff but i also thought everyone else was also. I was even talked to well more or less threatened before i was discharged by what seemed to be civilians to keep my mouth shut for 10 years opr face 10 years in leavenworth so i never talked much about what i did i just thought this was normal.. then when i signed i would be quite a Capt came in and signed my discharge papers. I did not know what i was really doing untill i saw the planes (F 111) that was flying in Desert Storm with the stealth fighter they brought out and when Bagdad lit up my wheels started turning and i knew then exactly what was going on and why.. what my job really was.. I was in EWS Electronic Warfare Systems and counter measures. It was 7 years and then seeing what was happeneing in this war before i knew what i did. The service keep enlisted personel in the dark as much as possible.. U just do your job. I would have to believe this kid was kept in the dark also as much as possible and he really had very little knowledge what he was doing. It would be very easy to steer him ion the direction they wanted and then burn him just like they tried Ollie North but Ollie is one sharp man. He was no kid.. The plane i worked on the F-111 congress down played as a piece of junk yet we continually had Generals on our Base and and compititions and we was and alet for 3 months at a time 12 hrs a day and then off 3 months and then back on.. We trained in the desert to do exactly what happened in Desert Storm yet congress said the F 111 was junk.. They did retire it in 1995 but u know what out of 500+ only 100 and some if u search can u find what happened to them.. it will tell u some went to musuems and the rest taken apart for the metal.. i bet their is a newer upgraded model they are not letting us know about..just my feelings.. But as to the Op i really believe he was set up and they led this nieve kid right into to do what they needed as a press diversion |
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Military law over-rides the Constitution? That's right. Read it. You switch from civilian law to military justice when you go into the military. No freedom of speech unless they allow it. No trial by a jury of your peers. No civilian court action under most all circumstances. The death penalty applies to releasing top secret documents. The Rosenbergs got the death penalty under civilian law for giving atomic bomb secrets to the Russians because they felt the secret should not be kept from the communist party (they were secretly members). If they were exercising their "freedom of speech", they died for it. The release of "top secret" documents is a crime punishable by death. Anybody who is defined as property, is not free; they are a slave. There is a conflict of interest between the U.S. Military, and the free citizens of the United State of America; who the Constitution applies to. Anybody who swears an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and then fights against the principals in it is a traitor. Claiming you were following orders when you kill to overthrow free people, and deprive them of the rights it is self evident their creator endowed them with, is a war crime against the citizens of the U.S. and was not an adequate defense during the Nuremberg war crimes trials. |
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Edited by
RKISIT
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Sun 10/17/10 09:06 AM
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Military law over-rides the Constitution? That's right. Read it. You switch from civilian law to military justice when you go into the military. No freedom of speech unless they allow it. No trial by a jury of your peers. No civilian court action under most all circumstances. The death penalty applies to releasing top secret documents. The Rosenbergs got the death penalty under civilian law for giving atomic bomb secrets to the Russians because they felt the secret should not be kept from the communist party (they were secretly members). If they were exercising their "freedom of speech", they died for it. The release of "top secret" documents is a crime punishable by death. |
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Edited by
davidben1
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Sun 10/17/10 09:24 AM
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IS NOT EVERY AMERICAN "THE GOVERNMENT", if the american government REPRESENT "AMERICAN CITIZENS"?
THEN NO "AMERICAN" CAN BE ACCESSED AS THE "ENEMY" OF THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF, therefore even accued of treason. lest the government, of the people, and for the people, admmit it NOT BE FOR IT'S OWN PEOPLE. |
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I find it funny anytime a politician gets outraged, particularly in an election year. I can't even begin to tell you how many politicians I think should get the death penalty. Not defending what this wikileaks guy did, but the politicos should shut up and let the courts handle it. |
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I find it funny anytime a politician gets outraged, particularly in an election year. I can't even begin to tell you how many politicians I think should get the death penalty. Not defending what this wikileaks guy did, but the politicos should shut up and let the courts handle it. concur, but indeed, such seem's to have become a more treacherous proposal as each day progresses, being that judges are elected via the "political system"... sometime, someway, human's will wake up, and realize the system itself was flawed in incpetion, designed, whether it be by direct intent or motive, to sustain itself, as to filter out the lessor voice, or the voice with less power to be heard. it seems at this point in time, the only cure would be a global debate, viewed and participated in by ALL, to apoint the wisest most caring enties of planet earth in charge of global advancement. such being the effort induced to allow ALL the peoples of the world to select a sum of people to represent, and formulate a system that ALL would be in concurrment to. for indeed, if their truly be a fair and just that exist, that treated all LIFE AS EQUAL, would not the people embrace and endorse? it seems until such would happen, the system itself hath aquired too much power to be amended, as indeed, IT COULD BE, but the intrinsic flawed principle of justice, built into the system itself, would need to be addressed, and many EMPIRE'S RESIDE on these exact principles as loopholes to even exist. since the world is so interconnected, as indeed ALL HUMAN LIFE IS MORE EACH DAY, we indeed need a global think tank OF THE PEOPLE, AND FOR THE PEOPLE, to be crerated, not governed by the basic RESTRICTION'S, the exiting system try to impose on any better system, for any within the system, of course, are naturally oppsed to what may HTREATEN THEIR JOB, and LIFETSTYLE AFFORED BY SUCH JOB... ANY SYSTEM THAT FACILITATE A LIFESTYLE, WILL OF COURSE ENVOKE THAT WHICH WANT THE BEST LIFESTYLE FOR ITSELF TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT, AS A MEMBER, FOR THE SHEER PERK AND BENEFIT FOR ITSELF. any such system will of course, ATTRACT THE MOST AND GREATEST "SELF SEEKER'S ALONE FROM WITHIN ANY SOCIETY? |
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I find it funny anytime a politician gets outraged, particularly in an election year. I can't even begin to tell you how many politicians I think should get the death penalty. Not defending what this wikileaks guy did, but the politicos should shut up and let the courts handle it. Obama needs to issue an Executive Order and make this guy dissappear, enough said. |
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Military law over-rides the Constitution? That's right. Read it. You switch from civilian law to military justice when you go into the military. No freedom of speech unless they allow it. No trial by a jury of your peers. No civilian court action under most all circumstances. The death penalty applies to releasing top secret documents. The Rosenbergs got the death penalty under civilian law for giving atomic bomb secrets to the Russians because they felt the secret should not be kept from the communist party (they were secretly members). If they were exercising their "freedom of speech", they died for it. The release of "top secret" documents is a crime punishable by death. Anybody who is defined as property, is not free; they are a slave. There is a conflict of interest between the U.S. Military, and the free citizens of the United State of America; who the Constitution applies to. Anybody who swears an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and then fights against the principals in it is a traitor. Claiming you were following orders when you kill to overthrow free people, and deprive them of the rights it is self evident their creator endowed them with, is a war crime against the citizens of the U.S. and was not an adequate defense during the Nuremberg war crimes trials. U swear to defend the constitution of the United states and the President. At all costs but under orders. The President is the chief commander then his appointed military leadership in cluding his secrity advisor. So this even mean congress is your boss and thats why u seen the Iran/contra hearings. Military law you are under a communist type leadership. Like take an Article 15 if i remember right. A friend came to work drunk.. He was given an article 15 by a person in command not a cop nothing and pleaded guilty to them no trial no nothing and sentence to 30 days in the brig for showing up to work drunk. Now tell me where thier is a law like that for people not in the service.. he was in the brig serving his time within 48 hrs |
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anybody that wishes the death of another human being, due to data heard, has lost all sight of what even protect themself undue torture death.
anybody that wishes the death of another human being, simply basing such wish and implication on data heard, having no direct evidence for itself, show itself hath no regard for human life itself, and the least possible caring of human life within itself, and thus show itself as a tyrannical controlling would be dictator, whom would even perpetrate murder itself to shut up the voice of any that oppose it's own perception. but then these type voices proclaim 'MURDER FOR MANY', but only if someone else be willing to carry out the deed for them, so they can stay ensulated from any accountability themself. |
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anybody that wishes the death of another human being, due to data heard, has lost all sight of what even protect themself undue torture death. anybody that wishes the death of another human being, simply basing such wish and implication on data heard, having no direct evidence for itself, show itself hath no regard for human life itself, and the least possible caring of human life within itself, and thus show itself as a tyrannical controlling would be dictator, whom would even perpetrate murder itself to shut up the voice of any that oppose it's own perception. but then these type voices proclaim 'MURDER FOR MANY', but only if someone else be willing to carry out the deed for them, so they can stay ensulated from any accountability themself. something we agree on,, it is becoming a bloodthirsty culture all while believing itself to sit on a moral pedestal,,, |
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anybody that wishes the death of another human being, due to data heard, has lost all sight of what even protect themself undue torture death. anybody that wishes the death of another human being, simply basing such wish and implication on data heard, having no direct evidence for itself, show itself hath no regard for human life itself, and the least possible caring of human life within itself, and thus show itself as a tyrannical controlling would be dictator, whom would even perpetrate murder itself to shut up the voice of any that oppose it's own perception. but then these type voices proclaim 'MURDER FOR MANY', but only if someone else be willing to carry out the deed for them, so they can stay ensulated from any accountability themself. something we agree on,, it is becoming a bloodthirsty culture all while believing itself to sit on a moral pedestal,,, Yep and we know it flows from the top.. what will we believe when they speak is the question. evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, |
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anybody that wishes the death of another human being, due to data heard, has lost all sight of what even protect themself undue torture death. anybody that wishes the death of another human being, simply basing such wish and implication on data heard, having no direct evidence for itself, show itself hath no regard for human life itself, and the least possible caring of human life within itself, and thus show itself as a tyrannical controlling would be dictator, whom would even perpetrate murder itself to shut up the voice of any that oppose it's own perception. but then these type voices proclaim 'MURDER FOR MANY', but only if someone else be willing to carry out the deed for them, so they can stay ensulated from any accountability themself. something we agree on,, it is becoming a bloodthirsty culture all while believing itself to sit on a moral pedestal,,, we agree on more than what you may know just now. for i agree with all you say, but rather just simply add to, what may, or could be created by it, if it were to be left as the "decider of what govern all human behaviour". my fight is not against any person, but rather to erase bias with understanding, of how the human species itself shall destroy many of each other, more each day, if self bias, and group bias, be left to prosper as some good guideline for ALL. for indeed, "all as one" be the only way to create peace and forward mobility in happiness for ALL, self bias and group bias being the root culprits keeping all such things from occuring, and seperating all human's as one unified awesome happy people. |
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I find it funny anytime a politician gets outraged, particularly in an election year. I can't even begin to tell you how many politicians I think should get the death penalty. Not defending what this wikileaks guy did, but the politicos should shut up and let the courts handle it. Obama needs to issue an Executive Order and make this guy dissappear, enough said. nobody called for the head of Geraldo Rivera when he told everybody on live TV where he and the Marines he was with was. This is all political grand standing, a dog and pony show. None of our politicos really care about our men and women in uniform, if they did their hands wouldn't be tied like they are. Wake up. |
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I find it funny anytime a politician gets outraged, particularly in an election year. I can't even begin to tell you how many politicians I think should get the death penalty. Not defending what this wikileaks guy did, but the politicos should shut up and let the courts handle it. Obama needs to issue an Executive Order and make this guy dissappear, enough said. nobody called for the head of Geraldo Rivera when he told everybody on live TV where he and the Marines he was with was. This is all political grand standing, a dog and pony show. None of our politicos really care about our men and women in uniform, if they did their hands wouldn't be tied like they are. Wake up. This is a little more serious then that. This website identified local contact and allies to the whole wide world. Why in the hell would the Afgan and Iraqui people trust us when we will just let their names be posted on the internet so the Taliban and AQ can find them. This has set back all current efforts in the war and is costing more innocent people their lives. Kill one to save several hundreds of thousands, sounds like a fair trade to me. |
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Actually its not a good read at all, wait for the movie I hear it's gonna be 3-D,...
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Maybe with the new Republican controlled Congress and the gains we made in the Senate they can take action on this clown.
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