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I never did any such thing. |
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All I have to say is that unless you live in AZ and have fisrt hand knowledge of what is happening and what the problem is, all you have to go on is the propaganda that you are being fed. No offense here but it makes sense that Arizona is going to suffer repercussions for this misstep. And it is a misstep. They can be given credit for trying to solve a problem but a smack in the head for making a bad choice. As for mo, none of your post makes sense. Noone is saying Arizona has any affect on the rest of the country. Obama wasn't in office three years ago. The article states that preliminary assessment seems to be showing that 1070 is impacting Arizona's economy negatively. No offense taken... I don't agree that this was a "misstep". The law that was signed, SB 1070, was very popular with Arizonans. As far as the bill having a negative impact on the economy, there is conflicting data that shows otherwise. And these boycotts? c'mon! So what, they impact the resorts? Who do you think the resorts employ? Mostly illegal aliens from the information that I have seen. |
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TonkaTruck3
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Thu 07/29/10 03:20 PM
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I don't label everyone racists, bigots and haters. I label racist, bigoted and hating ideology what it is. This country being founded by racists, has a problem in that area to this day. It should be a fight all Americans are willing to fight. Have you ever read the original Constitution? I suggest you do so and then we will be on the same page here. You seem to be hung up on this notion that the Founders and everybody since that time are all racist and bigots because they dont follow a strict certain agenda. |
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I don't label everyone racists, bigots and haters. I label racist, bigoted and hating ideology what it is. This country being founded by racists, has a problem in that area to this day. It should be a fight all Americans are willing to fight. Have you ever read the original Constitution? I suggest you do so and then we will be on the same page here. You seem to be hung up on this notion that the Founders and everybody since that time are all racist and bigots because they dont follow a strict certain agenda. If I have to show you, you didn't read it. |
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All I have to say is that unless you live in AZ and have fisrt hand knowledge of what is happening and what the problem is, all you have to go on is the propaganda that you are being fed. No offense here but it makes sense that Arizona is going to suffer repercussions for this misstep. And it is a misstep. They can be given credit for trying to solve a problem but a smack in the head for making a bad choice. As for mo, none of your post makes sense. Noone is saying Arizona has any affect on the rest of the country. Obama wasn't in office three years ago. The article states that preliminary assessment seems to be showing that 1070 is impacting Arizona's economy negatively. No offense taken... I don't agree that this was a "misstep". The law that was signed, SB 1070, was very popular with Arizonans. As far as the bill having a negative impact on the economy, there is conflicting data that shows otherwise. And these boycotts? c'mon! So what, they impact the resorts? Who do you think the resorts employ? Mostly illegal aliens from the information that I have seen. The misstep is the racial profiling and usurping on federal toes it seems. I can't believe that the people of Arizona will try to take our country back to the good ole racist days by creating such a law. Regardless to the hardships the law makers there should have been smarter than that. |
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Constitution on Slavery "Clearly Sanctioned"
Black African slavery had existed in the North American English colonies for 168 years before the U.S. Constitution was drafted in 1787. It had existed all across colonial America, but by 1804 most Northern states, finding that slavery was not profitable for them, had effectively abolished the institution. In the South, however, especially after the 1793 invention of the cotton gin, the institution grew, becoming an inextricable part of the economy and way of life. Whether slavery was to be permitted and continued under the new Constitution was a matter of conflict between the North and South, with several Southern states refusing to join the Union if slavery were disallowed. Thus, in spite of a warning from Virginian George Mason that slaves "bring the judgment of Heaven on a country," the continuance of slavery was clearly sanctioned in the U.S. Constitution, although the words slave and slavery are not found anywhere in the document. Section 2 of Article I states that apart from free persons "all other persons," meaning slaves, are each to be counted as three-fifths of a white person for the purpose of apportioning congressional representatives on the basis of population. Section 9 of Article I states that the importation of "such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit," meaning slaves, would be permitted until 1808. And Section 2 of Article IV directs that persons "held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another," meaning fugitive slaves, were to be returned to their owners. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791, says nothing about slavery. But the Fifth Amendment guaranteed that no person could "be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Slaves were property, and slaveholders had an absolute right to take their property with them, even into free states or territories. Fascinating Fact: The rhetoric in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence about liberty, freedom, being created equal, and so on, was seldom considered applicable to blacks, slave or free. Seen a subservient race, they were excluded from consideration as members of society and had few rights. |
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^^^^^Racism^^^^^
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^^^^^Racism^^^^^ keep up the good fight... when our country goes to hell, you can thank yourself for all the hard work that you put out. just because you think all white people are racist, doesn't make it so. go live with the illegals, evidently they are better than your own kind. |
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She's posting something from hundreds of years ago, and somehow she's connecting it with whats going on today.
Of course the whole Revolutionary War was fought over slavery, and rarely do we hear about how many white people fought and died to free black slaves. But everybody is a slave today...a slave to a govt. gone out of control. And still, there is no wording in the AZ 1070 law that states anything connected to slavery, racism, prejudice, etc. Its all fabricated by the fear-mongering leftists who are scared of seeing their beloved govt. get slapped into reality. |
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She's posting something from hundreds of years ago, and somehow she's connecting it with whats going on today. Of course the whole Revolutionary War was fought over slavery, and rarely do we hear about how many white people fought and died to free black slaves. But everybody is a slave today...a slave to a govt. gone out of control. And still, there is no wording in the AZ 1070 law that states anything connected to slavery, racism, prejudice, etc. Its all fabricated by the fear-mongering leftists who are scared of seeing their beloved govt. get slapped into reality. i know, i can't figure her out... oh well, i give up trying. |
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Constitution on Slavery "Clearly Sanctioned" Black African slavery had existed in the North American English colonies for 168 years before the U.S. Constitution was drafted in 1787. It had existed all across colonial America, but by 1804 most Northern states, finding that slavery was not profitable for them, had effectively abolished the institution. In the South, however, especially after the 1793 invention of the cotton gin, the institution grew, becoming an inextricable part of the economy and way of life. Whether slavery was to be permitted and continued under the new Constitution was a matter of conflict between the North and South, with several Southern states refusing to join the Union if slavery were disallowed. Thus, in spite of a warning from Virginian George Mason that slaves "bring the judgment of Heaven on a country," the continuance of slavery was clearly sanctioned in the U.S. Constitution, although the words slave and slavery are not found anywhere in the document. Section 2 of Article I states that apart from free persons "all other persons," meaning slaves, are each to be counted as three-fifths of a white person for the purpose of apportioning congressional representatives on the basis of population. Section 9 of Article I states that the importation of "such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit," meaning slaves, would be permitted until 1808. And Section 2 of Article IV directs that persons "held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another," meaning fugitive slaves, were to be returned to their owners. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791, says nothing about slavery. But the Fifth Amendment guaranteed that no person could "be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." Slaves were property, and slaveholders had an absolute right to take their property with them, even into free states or territories. Fascinating Fact: The rhetoric in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence about liberty, freedom, being created equal, and so on, was seldom considered applicable to blacks, slave or free. Seen a subservient race, they were excluded from consideration as members of society and had few rights. If you want to talk about slavery....I'll tell you a little about what's happening here in Arizona. There are a lot of people in the business community that support Illegal Immigration....they want to keep their cheap labor. Cheap labor is the next best thing to slavery. Take the construction industry out here for example. Prior to the massive influx of illegal aliens, carpenters were making just over $20 an hour. Then came the illegals...a contractor could hire them for less than half that. Most of the carpenters and tradesmen I know could not compete so just gave up and the illegals pretty much took over the trades due to their low wages. Now, you would think this tremendous cost savings on labor would equate to cheaper home prices? Think again. The extra profits went right into the pockets of the developers. This same things has happened to almost every skilled trade out here in Arizona. Americans cannot compete with cheap illegal labor. Back to my original point, there are many wealthy and powerful businessmen in Arizona that are enjoying the profits of this cheap/slave labor and want it to continue. The economy of Arizona has suffered and those trying to earn a decent wage are being undercut by the illegals. Another reason the illegals can work so cheap is that there will be 6 guys or sometimes more, renting one cheap apartment. Talk about ghetto conditions. And to hurt the economy here more, they don't go out and spend like a typical American does. They are very frugal and you see them shopping at yard sales all the time. They don't go to department stores...or even burger king...they have small Taco Stands and eat cheap. Then to top it all off, they send $millions and $millions of their earnings back to Mexico! That's why Mexico is not complaining and actually lashing out at Arizona....they like having that cash influx back into their country. I could go on and on about all the problems we are facing here in Arizona...but, I feel it is falling on deaf ears. No offense. |
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