Topic: Where's Them Jobs At ... ?
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Wed 07/21/10 11:10 PM
Actually, unions need to disappear - they're just another Alinskyite mechanism for the advancement of Socialism ... the term 'collective bargaining' is a tip-off ... 'Collectivist' = 'Socialist' ... hint hint hint ... Unions have outlived any legitimate purpose they may have ever had - they are strictly a collectivist enterprise designed to advance a political agenda and have NOTHING to do with making the life of the workers they 'represent' better ... All they want from the workers are the DUES ... nothing else matters to them so long as the money keeps coming in so they can support their DemoCom candidates ... It's time for unions to be abolished.

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Thu 07/22/10 01:16 AM

Actually, unions need to disappear - they're just another Alinskyite mechanism for the advancement of Socialism ... the term 'collective bargaining' is a tip-off ... 'Collectivist' = 'Socialist' ... hint hint hint ... Unions have outlived any legitimate purpose they may have ever had - they are strictly a collectivist enterprise designed to advance a political agenda and have NOTHING to do with making the life of the workers they 'represent' better ... All they want from the workers are the DUES ... nothing else matters to them so long as the money keeps coming in so they can support their DemoCom candidates ... It's time for unions to be abolished.


they teach people not to care about what they doing workwise to. if someone can't get fired, even if they screwup. they tend to be lazy and don't give a crap about their work preformance. i thought the american auto makers learned that the hard way, esp. chevy, when they almost went out of business. at least they are making better autos now.

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Thu 07/22/10 01:07 PM
I've worked enough trade shows in NJ, NY, and Chicago to have found out that you do NOT attempt to plug in your own TV / DVD displays or, in some cases, even try to set up your own tables - gotta get a member of the Carpenters Union to do that ... wanna plug something in? Get a member of the Electricians Union ... Screw that schit ... Unions are no longer needed, wanted, or useful. They are political parasites who bleed both their membership and society ... let 'em disappear - they won't be missed.

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Thu 07/22/10 02:10 PM

I've worked enough trade shows in NJ, NY, and Chicago to have found out that you do NOT attempt to plug in your own TV / DVD displays or, in some cases, even try to set up your own tables - gotta get a member of the Carpenters Union to do that ... wanna plug something in? Get a member of the Electricians Union ... Screw that schit ... Unions are no longer needed, wanted, or useful. They are political parasites who bleed both their membership and society ... let 'em disappear - they won't be missed.


drinker

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Thu 07/22/10 04:00 PM
People won't miss unions until they need the union.

I paid my dues and wondered why until I needed my union lawyer at work.

He worked for me for free.

If the union isn't working the way it is supposed to the people need to fix their union but they should never forgo it because they may need it one day.

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Thu 07/22/10 04:36 PM

http://www.newshounds.us/

:thumbsup:


fox bashing...asleep

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Thu 07/22/10 04:39 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Thu 07/22/10 04:41 PM

People won't miss unions until they need the union.

I paid my dues and wondered why until I needed my union lawyer at work.

He worked for me for free.

If the union isn't working the way it is supposed to the people need to fix their union but they should never forgo it because they may need it one day.


yea, while they helped you once, your union president still collected everyones union dues. for that 1 one time help... did your union dues equal out to what you would have paid the lawyer? i mean, an 8th of your check for 20 years is alot of money...

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Thu 07/22/10 04:43 PM


People won't miss unions until they need the union.

I paid my dues and wondered why until I needed my union lawyer at work.

He worked for me for free.

If the union isn't working the way it is supposed to the people need to fix their union but they should never forgo it because they may need it one day.


yea, while they helped you once, your union president still collected everyones union dues. for that 1 one time help... did your union dues equal out to what you would have paid the lawyer? i mean, an 8th of your check for 20 years is alot of money...


The lawyer was great and I am not the only one who used the union at my job. So lots of people got help.

Like I said you can do without it until you need it and then you will wish you had paid all those dues.

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Thu 07/22/10 04:44 PM


http://www.newshounds.us/

:thumbsup:


fox bashing...asleep


No such thing as fox bashing.

They do it to themselves by presenting their crap as news.

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Thu 07/22/10 04:47 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Thu 07/22/10 04:47 PM



People won't miss unions until they need the union.

I paid my dues and wondered why until I needed my union lawyer at work.

He worked for me for free.

If the union isn't working the way it is supposed to the people need to fix their union but they should never forgo it because they may need it one day.


yea, while they helped you once, your union president still collected everyones union dues. for that 1 one time help... did your union dues equal out to what you would have paid the lawyer? i mean, an 8th of your check for 20 years is alot of money...



The lawyer was great and I am not the only one who used the union at my job. So lots of people got help.

Like I said you can do without it until you need it and then you will wish you had paid all those dues.


i was referring to the union prez, getting all that money for nothing... just like any other ceo in this country.

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Thu 07/22/10 04:48 PM



http://www.newshounds.us/

:thumbsup:


fox bashing...asleep


No such thing as fox bashing.

They do it to themselves by presenting their crap as news.


seems like all sides of every issue do this kind of crap to each other

i guess it's the way of politics now.

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Thu 07/22/10 05:01 PM

People won't miss unions until they need the union.

I paid my dues and wondered why until I needed my union lawyer at work.

He worked for me for free.

If the union isn't working the way it is supposed to the people need to fix their union but they should never forgo it because they may need it one day.


Why am I not suprised by this reaction ... ?

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Thu 07/22/10 06:31 PM



Why am I not suprised by this reaction ... ?


I'm not suRprised by yours ...
just disappointed with the ignorant outbursts.
and attempted strawman arguments relating to Socialism.

Actually, unions need to disappear - they're just another Alinskyite mechanism for the advancement of Socialism ... the term 'collective bargaining' is a tip-off ... 'Collectivist' = 'Socialist' ... hint hint hint ... Unions have outlived any legitimate purpose
can you see the attempted building of that strawman
they may have ever had
you either know no history or just like to run at the mouth with implications to try and build your strawman argument … if you even know what that is
- they are strictly a collectivist enterprise designed to advance a political agenda and have NOTHING to do with making the life of the workers they 'represent' better ... All they want from the workers are the DUES ... nothing else matters to them so long as the money keeps coming in so they can support their DemoCom candidates ... It's time for unions to be abolished.



bitter outsiders just don't know ...
they scream ... With false authority
Want tariffs and protectionism but when faced with union protectionism ...
they scream unfair they don’t even see how their own statement nullifies a previous statement in their strawman world.
anyone know how to say ... double standard.


If you don't understand about presidents or business agents or how CEO's actually do work.
you sure couldn't understand about senators or representatives of government either ... and just bytch bytch bytch
using FOX rhetoric with authority. …
but no spell check

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Thu 07/22/10 07:20 PM
I can remember the stories of the abusive employers who had noone to control them or stand up for the workers. Wages were so low people couldn't live off them.

I am too young for being employed by one of these employers but I can foresee employers loving not having unions or the EEOC in the future.

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Thu 07/22/10 07:20 PM
Norma Ray

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Thu 07/22/10 07:29 PM

I can remember the stories of the abusive employers who had noone to control them or stand up for the workers. Wages were so low people couldn't live off them.

I am too young for being employed by one of these employers but I can foresee employers loving not having unions or the EEOC in the future.



oh gosh, wouldnt that just make expolitation so much easier? scary thought,,,

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Thu 07/22/10 08:10 PM




Why am I not suprised by this reaction ... ?


I'm not suRprised by yours ...
just disappointed with the ignorant outbursts.
and attempted strawman arguments relating to Socialism.

Actually, unions need to disappear - they're just another Alinskyite mechanism for the advancement of Socialism ... the term 'collective bargaining' is a tip-off ... 'Collectivist' = 'Socialist' ... hint hint hint ... Unions have outlived any legitimate purpose
can you see the attempted building of that strawman
they may have ever had
you either know no history or just like to run at the mouth with implications to try and build your strawman argument … if you even know what that is
- they are strictly a collectivist enterprise designed to advance a political agenda and have NOTHING to do with making the life of the workers they 'represent' better ... All they want from the workers are the DUES ... nothing else matters to them so long as the money keeps coming in so they can support their DemoCom candidates ... It's time for unions to be abolished.



bitter outsiders just don't know ...
they scream ... With false authority
Want tariffs and protectionism but when faced with union protectionism ...
they scream unfair they don’t even see how their own statement nullifies a previous statement in their strawman world.
anyone know how to say ... double standard.


If you don't understand about presidents or business agents or how CEO's actually do work.
you sure couldn't understand about senators or representatives of government either ... and just bytch bytch bytch
using FOX rhetoric with authority. …
but no spell check



Very well said. Great response.

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Thu 07/22/10 10:11 PM
so you guys actually think with government, lawyers, and the speed of communication that we need unions? they are just a drain on the economy, with the only benefits of not getting fired. Every union i've seen, the laborers are useless,doing drugs on the job, lazy and whiny. the ONLY reason they had a job is because of the worthless union. Unions take advantage of stupid people that can't hold a job anywhere else.

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Thu 07/22/10 10:39 PM

so you guys actually think with government, lawyers, and the speed of communication that we need unions? they are just a drain on the economy, with the only benefits of not getting fired. Every union i've seen, the laborers are useless,doing drugs on the job, lazy and whiny. the ONLY reason they had a job is because of the worthless union. Unions take advantage of stupid people that can't hold a job anywhere else.


I think many working class people cannot afford attorneys. The last attorney I went to wanted 1200 to procure a divorce, that was nearly a months pay for me,,,and having obtained certification as a paralegal, I know the paperwork can be obtained and done for oneself at the courthouse,,,I just didnt want to be bothered(until I saw an attorney)

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Thu 07/22/10 10:47 PM


so you guys actually think with government, lawyers, and the speed of communication that we need unions? they are just a drain on the economy, with the only benefits of not getting fired. Every union i've seen, the laborers are useless,doing drugs on the job, lazy and whiny. the ONLY reason they had a job is because of the worthless union. Unions take advantage of stupid people that can't hold a job anywhere else.


I think many working class people cannot afford attorneys. The last attorney I went to wanted 1200 to procure a divorce, that was nearly a months pay for me,,,and having obtained certification as a paralegal, I know the paperwork can be obtained and done for oneself at the courthouse,,,I just didnt want to be bothered(until I saw an attorney)


if you look, you can find attorneys that will do it for next to nothing... a lot of people are doing the prepaid legal thing now too.

my ex boss was getting sued by about 5 different people, and he fought all of them on a prepaid plan. he told me it was the best money he ever spent. he seemed really happy with it.
but to put all that money that you sweated to earn in someone elses pocket makes no sence to me.