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Of course not his own...
Gen . Stanley McChrystal, who was fired last week as the top U.S. general in the stalemated Afghanistan war, told the Army on Monday that he will retire. Army spokesman Col. Tom Collins tells Fox News that McChrystal has informed the office that handles retirements for the Army, which is the General Officer Management Office, that he intends to retire. The Army has not received McChrystal's official paperwork. In that, he will include a date by which he would like to retire. Then he will go through a formal process leading to retirement. In announcing McChrystal's ouster on Wednesday, President Barack Obama praised his long Army career but said his intemperate remarks in a magazine article that appeared last week could not be abided. McChrystal apologized for the remarks in Rolling Stone magazine and flew to Washington last week to resign as commanding general of the war. The Army has been McChrystal's only career. McChrystal was promoted to the selective and coveted rank of four-star general last year. It is not clear whether McChrystal will be able to retain that rank in retirement. Under Army rules, generals need to serve three years as a four-star officer to retain that rank, with its prestige and retirement benefits. The secretary of the Army can allow officers with as little as two years of service to keep their retirement rank, Collins said. Three military and defense officials in Washington said Obama may use his power as commander in chief to allow McChrystal to keep all four stars. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because McChrystal has not yet submitted his paperwork. McChrystal was the Pentagon's choice to run the war following a year of Taliban advances in 2008 and early 2009. He replaced Gen. David McKiernan, also a four-star Army general, after McKiernan was fired for failing to apply the counterinsurgency strategy McChrystal represented. McKiernan retired from the Army almost immediately. The Senate Armed Service Committee will hold a confirmation hearing Tuesday for Gen. David Petraeus, nominated to succeed McChrystal as the top U.S. and NATO general in Kabul. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/28/gen-mcchrystal-tells-army-retire/ This man should never have been forced to resign. He should have got a flogging but not have to resign, basically ending his career. I just hope Obama act's like a man about this and let's him keep his 4th Star when he retires, but I doubt that will happen because Obama is all about revenge and Chicago style politics. This man has earned that Star, let him keep it. I for one will be writing and calling the White House and telling them they need to let him keep his rank since a President can make that happen. Here are the numbers and website address if you want to contact them(Please do)......... Phone Numbers Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 Email through the website at http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Snail Mail The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 |
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Of course not his own...
Gen . Stanley McChrystal, who was fired last week as the top U.S. general in the stalemated Afghanistan war, told the Army on Monday that he will retire. Army spokesman Col. Tom Collins tells Fox News that McChrystal has informed the office that handles retirements for the Army, which is the General Officer Management Office, that he intends to retire. The Army has not received McChrystal's official paperwork. In that, he will include a date by which he would like to retire. Then he will go through a formal process leading to retirement. In announcing McChrystal's ouster on Wednesday, President Barack Obama praised his long Army career but said his intemperate remarks in a magazine article that appeared last week could not be abided. McChrystal apologized for the remarks in Rolling Stone magazine and flew to Washington last week to resign as commanding general of the war. The Army has been McChrystal's only career. McChrystal was promoted to the selective and coveted rank of four-star general last year. It is not clear whether McChrystal will be able to retain that rank in retirement. Under Army rules, generals need to serve three years as a four-star officer to retain that rank, with its prestige and retirement benefits. The secretary of the Army can allow officers with as little as two years of service to keep their retirement rank, Collins said. Three military and defense officials in Washington said Obama may use his power as commander in chief to allow McChrystal to keep all four stars. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because McChrystal has not yet submitted his paperwork. McChrystal was the Pentagon's choice to run the war following a year of Taliban advances in 2008 and early 2009. He replaced Gen. David McKiernan, also a four-star Army general, after McKiernan was fired for failing to apply the counterinsurgency strategy McChrystal represented. McKiernan retired from the Army almost immediately. The Senate Armed Service Committee will hold a confirmation hearing Tuesday for Gen. David Petraeus, nominated to succeed McChrystal as the top U.S. and NATO general in Kabul. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/28/gen-mcchrystal-tells-army-retire/ This man should never have been forced to resign. He should have got a flogging but not have to resign, basically ending his career. I just hope Obama act's like a man about this and let's him keep his 4th Star when he retires, but I doubt that will happen because Obama is all about revenge and Chicago style politics. This man has earned that Star, let him keep it. I for one will be writing and calling the White House and telling them they need to let him keep his rank since a President can make that happen. Here are the numbers and website address if you want to contact them(Please do)......... Phone Numbers Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 Email through the website at http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Snail Mail The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 free speech goes a long way in this "free" country |
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"The Army has been McChrystal's only career." So, being a government employee for one's entire life makes one "distinguished" now? People used to call that parasitism.
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"The Army has been McChrystal's only career." So, being a government employee for one's entire life makes one "distinguished" now? People used to call that parasitism.
McChrystal is a hero. He has served his country well. What makes him distinguished is what he has achieved and done while in the military. |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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"The Army has been McChrystal's only career." So, being a government employee for one's entire life makes one "distinguished" now? People used to call that parasitism.
McChrystal is a hero. He has served his country well. What makes him distinguished is what he has achieved and done while in the military. Ah! So being a political general in an illegal, unconstitutional war that resulted in untold amounts of unnecessary death and destruction is all one must do to be a hero? I've been going about it in all the wrong ways! Here I thought you had to do something helpful to mankind to be a hero! 
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it.
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It seems to me that he ended his own career.
He made the choice to speak inappropriately to Rolling Stone about stuff he shouldn't have while working for the government. And he is choosing to retire. So I think the general did this all on his own. |
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Thou Shalt Not Diss the CIC. Inexcusable.
It is a sad end to a distinguished career. But he and his staff knew what they were doing and that it was bad for the war, the military and their own careers. They behaved foolishly with reckless disregard of the needs of their troops and the mission and this is the worst part. BO had abolutely no choice but to accept his resignation and there is no one else to blame except McChrystal. |
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Thou Shalt Not Diss the CIC. Inexcusable. It is a sad end to a distinguished career. But he and his staff knew what they were doing and that it was bad for the war, the military and their own careers. They behaved foolishly with reckless disregard of the needs of their troops and the mission and this is the worst part. BO had abolutely no choice but to accept his resignation and there is no one else to blame except McChrystal. He shouldn't have had to resign over it. There were other forms of repremand available. I'm not saying he didn't deserve to be repremanded because he did but not career ending. This is life and people make mistakes. |
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. |
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. i think soldiers follow orders... maybe not generals, but soldiers have too... pretty sure, i think. |
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. I hope you get drafted!
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. i think soldiers follow orders... maybe not generals, but soldiers have too... pretty sure, i think. Yeah, except when they go on murderous rampages like Lance Corporal James Gault (who cut an Iraqui citizen in half with his 50 cal machine gun for fun) 
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I will be in Heavenly's Army as his captain.--Captain Prettybaby reporting for duty Sir!
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. I hope you get drafted!
Just for that, I hope you not only get drafted, but are caught by Taliban and killed like a murderous, warmongering dog.
Can't be drafted when I already serve 
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. I hope you get drafted!
Can't be drafted when I already serve
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. I hope you get drafted!
No reason to waste your time hoping. Guys like this just run to Canada. But they come back soon enough to enjoy allllll the freedoms and choices that FREEEEEE America offers them. Like they will ever, in their lifetimes "Get It" .. not gonna happen. While men and women who actually HAVE 'balls' die for all they take for granted. I need to go find a brown bag now. 
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Edited by
isaac_dede
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. I hope you get drafted!
Just for that, I hope you not only get drafted, but are caught by Taliban and killed like a murderous, warmongering dog.
Can't be drafted when I already serve
then quit acting like a typical government employee and get off yer butt and actually DO something that betters the world. I'm trying to put together legislation that makes it mandatory for every male once completing high school to have to serve at least 2 years...the way Singapore does it...is it a coincidence that they also have one of the lowest crimes rates? I don't think so... I am trying to better my country that way. but obviously your definition and my definition of bettering the country differs...but to each his own.
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. I hope you get drafted!
No reason to waste your time hoping. Guys like this just run to Canada. But they come back soon enough to enjoy allllll the freedoms and choices that FREEEEEE America offers them. Like they will ever, in their lifetimes "Get It" .. not gonna happen. While men and women who actually HAVE 'balls' die for all they take for granted. I need to go find a brown bag now.
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His dedication to the service of his country is what makes him a hero, as opposed to those who feel no need to serve and sacrifice for it, just want to suck the juices out of it and let others provide them with the necessary service to ascertain that they can suck the life out of it. He was dedicated to serving himself, like all professional soldiers are and have been. That's why the Anti-Federalists correctly abhorred standing armies in favor of small militias. i think soldiers follow orders... maybe not generals, but soldiers have too... pretty sure, i think. Yeah, except when they go on murderous rampages like Lance Corporal James Gault (who cut an Iraqui citizen in half with his 50 cal machine gun for fun)
yea well...war is hell what was the last war you were in? |
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