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Lets face it, people get married, and sometimes it lasts forever, sometimes it only lasts a year, or less. I've met couples that never got married, but have been together for 20 years, and longer. What is marriage anyway ? It's an agreement between two people who love each other. Do we need paperwork for that ? I don't think so. We have titles and receipts for our stuff, but were not talking about stuff here, were talking about emmotions. Do we need titles or receipts for our emmotions ? I don't think so. I think people should live together, and be couples, but forget the paperwork, leaving the state and the church out of it. Breaking up is rough enough without all the legal crap to complicate matters, and it only makes for more bitterness. I think that after marriage, some people start to feel trapped because of the paperwork and legal stuff. They will start dwelling on the what if's, and let it slowly destroy their relationship. From where im sitting, it appears that when people feel that either party can just gracefully bow out at any time, they tend to hold on tighter. I think sometimes, marriage is grounds for divorce. Dennis So does that mean you will never marry me???!! 
Well can we at least have a party??   
Hey, I might get married someday, it could happen. And sure, we can have a huge party, as long as it's at your place 
I don't feel like cleaning up the mess....lets just go riding and bar hoping..you can be my D.D. and then i'll show you my DD's!!
Your being very naughty
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Lets face it, people get married, and sometimes it lasts forever, sometimes it only lasts a year, or less. I've met couples that never got married, but have been together for 20 years, and longer. What is marriage anyway ? It's an agreement between two people who love each other. Do we need paperwork for that ? I don't think so. We have titles and receipts for our stuff, but were not talking about stuff here, were talking about emmotions. Do we need titles or receipts for our emmotions ? I don't think so. I think people should live together, and be couples, but forget the paperwork, leaving the state and the church out of it. Breaking up is rough enough without all the legal crap to complicate matters, and it only makes for more bitterness. I think that after marriage, some people start to feel trapped because of the paperwork and legal stuff. They will start dwelling on the what if's, and let it slowly destroy their relationship. From where im sitting, it appears that when people feel that either party can just gracefully bow out at any time, they tend to hold on tighter. I think sometimes, marriage is grounds for divorce. Dennis So does that mean you will never marry me???!!
Well can we at least have a party??
Hey, I might get married someday, it could happen. And sure, we can have a huge party, as long as it's at your place
I don't feel like cleaning up the mess....lets just go riding and bar hoping..you can be my D.D. and then i'll show you my DD's!!
Your being very naughty
Who? Me? 
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Lets face it, people get married, and sometimes it lasts forever, sometimes it only lasts a year, or less. I've met couples that never got married, but have been together for 20 years, and longer. What is marriage anyway ? It's an agreement between two people who love each other. Do we need paperwork for that ? I don't think so. We have titles and receipts for our stuff, but were not talking about stuff here, were talking about emmotions. Do we need titles or receipts for our emmotions ? I don't think so. I think people should live together, and be couples, but forget the paperwork, leaving the state and the church out of it. Breaking up is rough enough without all the legal crap to complicate matters, and it only makes for more bitterness. I think that after marriage, some people start to feel trapped because of the paperwork and legal stuff. They will start dwelling on the what if's, and let it slowly destroy their relationship. From where im sitting, it appears that when people feel that either party can just gracefully bow out at any time, they tend to hold on tighter. I think sometimes, marriage is grounds for divorce. Dennis So does that mean you will never marry me???!!
Well can we at least have a party??
Hey, I might get married someday, it could happen. And sure, we can have a huge party, as long as it's at your place
I don't feel like cleaning up the mess....lets just go riding and bar hoping..you can be my D.D. and then i'll show you my DD's!!
Your being very naughty
Who? Me?
Anyone missing a halo ?
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If marriage isn't right for you, that's fine. That doesn't mean it isn't right for others, though. Of course it works for some folks, but when I look at the divorce rate, I think those people are rare. How many people marry, and stay together for life ? I'd love to see the pie chart on that. I know several couples who have been together for many years. My parents, for example, have been married for 38 years. My parents celebrated 50 years this year. |
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Marriage remains a religious aspect that the government decided to profit from by issuing paperwork and requiring blood tests in certains states. I do not remember where in the bible it says you have to pay for a piece of paper for it to be considered "marriage". Handfasting prevailed prior to "marriage certficates" throughout many countries and nations. They never retained paperwork for verification of marriage. Common law marriages recognized in many states in this country and other countries today...... IMO, as long as recognized by others or introduced as married couple no different than buying the paperwork....... your very right, but you left out the churches too... they seem to make a profit on it also. it also seems like to me that it is a very stressful day, esp. for the bride. if it such a day of happiness, why is there so much stress on the "perfect wedding?" if 2 people are joining to be together for the rest of their lives, it supposed to a happy time, with no stress and and worries. every wedding i've been to or seen, seems to be a more stressful time than anything else. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0
This is the wedding of my dreams
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Marriage remains a religious aspect that the government decided to profit from by issuing paperwork and requiring blood tests in certains states. I do not remember where in the bible it says you have to pay for a piece of paper for it to be considered "marriage". Handfasting prevailed prior to "marriage certficates" throughout many countries and nations. They never retained paperwork for verification of marriage. Common law marriages recognized in many states in this country and other countries today...... IMO, as long as recognized by others or introduced as married couple no different than buying the paperwork....... your very right, but you left out the churches too... they seem to make a profit on it also. it also seems like to me that it is a very stressful day, esp. for the bride. if it such a day of happiness, why is there so much stress on the "perfect wedding?" if 2 people are joining to be together for the rest of their lives, it supposed to a happy time, with no stress and and worries. every wedding i've been to or seen, seems to be a more stressful time than anything else. I think any time one commits to something, there is a certain level of stress. It is the difference between enrolling in college or just going to the library, or volunteering to feed others and applying to work in a restaurant it is the INVESTMENT in something long term rather than a casual passing of time,, that can cause a bit of anxiety,, but its well worth it when the investment 'pays off'. |
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Marriage remains a religious aspect that the government decided to profit from by issuing paperwork and requiring blood tests in certains states. I do not remember where in the bible it says you have to pay for a piece of paper for it to be considered "marriage". Handfasting prevailed prior to "marriage certficates" throughout many countries and nations. They never retained paperwork for verification of marriage. Common law marriages recognized in many states in this country and other countries today...... IMO, as long as recognized by others or introduced as married couple no different than buying the paperwork....... your very right, but you left out the churches too... they seem to make a profit on it also. it also seems like to me that it is a very stressful day, esp. for the bride. if it such a day of happiness, why is there so much stress on the "perfect wedding?" if 2 people are joining to be together for the rest of their lives, it supposed to a happy time, with no stress and and worries. every wedding i've been to or seen, seems to be a more stressful time than anything else. Yes, do seem to neglected mentioning church profits, supposedly used to help the general world but more likely to keep congrgations going and profitable..... |
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If marriage isn't right for you, that's fine. That doesn't mean it isn't right for others, though. Of course it works for some folks, but when I look at the divorce rate, I think those people are rare. How many people marry, and stay together for life ? I'd love to see the pie chart on that. I know several couples who have been together for many years. My parents, for example, have been married for 38 years. My parents celebrated 50 years this year. That's awesome. Congratulations to them! |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0 This is the wedding of my dreams
No way jose 
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I like the "idea" of marriage...or at least my idea of what it should be. Do I believe that it can exist? Yes...I've seen it happen with my grandparents and several other relatives from that era. These days though...not so much. Will I ever do it again? NOPE!
With both my marriages, I would have been content to remain living together. The problem is, insurance companies and the like do not recognize "significant others" when it comes to beneficiaries, dependents and etc. Which is the problem I am currently having with my live-in bf...he works construction with no benefits and I cannot add him to my insurance because he is not my husband. He also does not qualify for my travel discounts because he is not my spouse. Those are the only "benefits" I recognize anymore about marriage. But either way....I'm NOT doing it again!  
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0 This is the wedding of my dreams
No way jose
Chicken!!
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this is my favorite proposal,,,lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G6XZ-OW7KI&feature=related LOVE LOVE LOVE ,. the take charge guy , putting his foot down, and laying it on the line,,, and then that kiss,,,sigh,, |
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i guess most women and men see the wedding day differently. i'm not opposed to marriage at all, but the way i see it, if we love each other and want to marry, it doesn't really matter where and how. having a big fancy wedding is more to show off in front of friends and family. a small chapel and a few friends is all would want, or vegas, either is fine with me.
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this is my favorite proposal,,,lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G6XZ-OW7KI&feature=related LOVE LOVE LOVE ,. the take charge guy , putting his foot down, and laying it on the line,,, and then that kiss,,,sigh,, AWE 
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this is my favorite proposal,,,lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G6XZ-OW7KI&feature=related LOVE LOVE LOVE ,. the take charge guy , putting his foot down, and laying it on the line,,, and then that kiss,,,sigh,, yea, right... maybe 50 years ago a guy could take charge... try it now
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i guess most women and men see the wedding day differently. i'm not opposed to marriage at all, but the way i see it, if we love each other and want to marry, it doesn't really matter where and how. having a big fancy wedding is more to show off in front of friends and family. a small chapel and a few friends is all would want, or vegas, either is fine with me. yeah, I have done it both ways. I prefer the wedding that includes our families though,,, but its the commitment that matters |
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Marriage was invented(for lack of a better word) in a time when vows, and someones word actually meant something. If BOTH partners REALLY took their vows seriously there would be a FAR smaller divorce rate. But people are focused in on themselves...they hear the 'for better' but choose to ignore the 'for worse' part. Also it was at a time when getting a divorce was a lot harder than it is now..Now you basically don't even have to have a reason for getting a divorce you can just get one because you want one. That wasn't the case not so long ago.
Unfortunately we live in a society that is about instant-self-gratification. What we want, is what we get, and we want most of it NOW....we are impatient children(yes I know I am young) but our society as a whole is like a giant whining child in the candy aisle...all we see is what is right in front of us...so that being said when we see 'eye-candy' and realize that we are 'restricted' from it because of 'legalities' we decide to get rid of those legalities..forgetting what our vows meant. Because what we want, we want now. I sometimes wish I WAS born in the 50's 60's when someones word actually meant something. But until we grow up as a nation, the divorce rates will continue to rise, and this argument will continue to exist..and unfortunately has some merit to it. |
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Marriage was invented(for lack of a better word) in a time when vows, and someones word actually meant something. If BOTH partners REALLY took their vows seriously there would be a FAR smaller divorce rate. But people are focused in on themselves...they hear the 'for better' but choose to ignore the 'for worse' part. Also it was at a time when getting a divorce was a lot harder than it is now..Now you basically don't even have to have a reason for getting a divorce you can just get one because you want one. That wasn't the case not so long ago. Unfortunately we live in a society that is about instant-self-gratification. What we want, is what we get, and we want most of it NOW....we are impatient children(yes I know I am young) but our society as a whole is like a giant whining child in the candy aisle...all we see is what is right in front of us...so that being said when we see 'eye-candy' and realize that we are 'restricted' from it because of 'legalities' we decide to get rid of those legalities..forgetting what our vows meant. Because what we want, we want now. I sometimes wish I WAS born in the 50's 60's when someones word actually meant something. But until we grow up as a nation, the divorce rates will continue to rise, and this argument will continue to exist..and unfortunately has some merit to it. also, in the 50's and 60's, it was a 1 income family and people got by just fine on that. now, i know families that both people have 2 jobs and still can't make ends meet. back then , the men made all the money and made most of the financial decisions. but in turn, it seems like it's the men that made a mess of things now too. |
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also, in the 50's and 60's, it was a 1 income family and people got by just fine on that. now, i know families that both people have 2 jobs and still can't make ends meet. back then , the men made all the money and made most of the financial decisions. but in turn, it seems like it's the men that made a mess of things now too. I don't really see how this is relevant to marriage, unless you are stating that it was a stronger family structure back then, and people weren't as focused on money...that could be one reason...we have made money our end all be all when before family values held more value than someones wealth....but I wasn't born back then.. I just know what I know from my parents, and reading. |
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