i know because she probably was out getting laid that made her late...lol

Yeh, it will only confuse him. He needs to focus.

on what? masterbation?

I can understand that but focus isn't on one opinion.. He asked for advice and was given advice, not it's for him to take what will work, what he can work with and make his own decision...

Yeah Joy why would he need anyone else's opinion but hers?

Everyone will always do what they decide to do no matter how much or how good or bad any advice is. (I just wanted to save him some time.) All advice usually falls on deaf ears anyway.

I know he will make his own decision. But we usually learn by our mistakes. Usually.

ok ladies, we can settle this with a pool of jello

You are a bad santa.

I don't disagree that it does fall on deaf ears a majority of the time.. However, I take care in negating advice given by others as it may be what would work for that person...

No, he needs to focus on his objective, which I assume is to meet and date women for the purpose of either meaningless sex or the institution of marriage.

If that woman was really thrilled with him or interested she would not have been late or left early with some excuse about working the next day. I hate to see men floundering around waiting patiently for someone who doesn't give a crap. And he won't get any respect from her either.

Either the chemistry is there or its not there. If it was there the date would not have ended that way. Don't give this guy false hope that will waste his time. Life is short.

ok, first of all, you didn't agree on a time to meet so you cannot hold that against her...

you "told" her text when she got home (should have asked by the way) and she did...

you don't make clear the timeline here so it is hard to figure what her silence has to do with anything. have you considered that she might be thinking the same thing about you...(he hasn't called so he must not be interested.)

if you are interested in going out with her again or you are not sure if she is, call her! ask her out and you will get the answer either way. i know that sounds too simple, but trust me knowing is half the battle.

Its just my opinion. I have confidence in my advice. He can take it or leave it. My work here is done.

..you wos waiting,you do not ask her...and now you are talking about that,you made your choice...??

Arrrggggg!!! Here is my advice, opinion and 2 cents. Call her!!!!!!!!
Why the games? You do not have to make that call some long drawn out life story. Tell her you had fun last evening and make definite plans for the next date. Do not be whiney, and ask what went wrong on the date. Let that part go. Trust me when I tell you this, if she does not want to see you again, she will say no to a second date. If you enjoyed your time together, call her. If you did not enjoy time together do not call her. Stop farting around and make a decision. You do not have to listen to any rules that says you have to wait for her to call. She is probably waiting for you to call her, like her friends told her to do. So both of you fools will wait yourselves out of a next date with eachother. One phone call does not lead to desperation. Sheesh. If after that call you get no response after 3 or 4 days. Then move on. You at least pulled your big boy pants on and made a choice. And what did it hurt, your pride, dignity? You are still alive to date again.

Reasonable, Responsible, Adult response.

Duuuuuuuuuuude ... she was TWO HOURS LATE ... ? And you WAITED ... ? Glad y'all had a good time - I'da been outa there when the clock hit a half-hour late and no phone call ... She's dropping a hint with her 'speedy reply' ... it's spelled 'C U L8R' ...

True, but you would have given a specific time to meet for the date and not left it open ended either. That was his mea-culpa.

I once dated a guy who always showed up at least an hour late. Sometimes two hours late. Once he didn't show up at all. Still, when he called me a month later, I said yes I would go out with him. (I had nothing else to do.) By then, I expected him to be late. He was.

That night his curiosity got the best of him. He asked me point blank why I never mentioned or complained about his bad dating habit of being late and even standing me up once, and why I never complained or even mentioned it.

I gave it to him strait. The truth. I told him it was because I did not really care about him, and I did not really care if he showed up or not. I accepted the date because I had nothing else to do and I did enjoy going out with him. After I told him that, he never called again. I didn't care.

The thing was, he was really nice looking! Tall with dark hair. But there was just zero chemistry!! I was not attracted to him at all. Perhaps he was gay, I don't know, but it was as if I was dating a hologram or a robot. There was just nothing there! I may have kept going out with him because I was so curious as to why I was not attracted to this good looking guy. I don't know. It was just weird. No chemistry.

Chemistry is important.

A hungry closed mouth will never get fed.

Valid observation, but if there was NO specific time set to meet, then she couldn't have been late - in which case all the 'whiny' is self-imposed and pointless, non ... ?