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Jump off of a 30 story building... you will fall (gravity is real), you will hit bottom and come to physical contact very abruptly and likely die (your body is real, and quite soft as it turns out)... you breathe (air is real) and you eat (the requirement for energy is real)... The things you feel and perceive in the physical world are measurable, and most definately real... I do agree, that your particular perception of that physical world is your own reality - although if you believe you can fly... it may be your reality - but it will not serve you well once you jump off of that building, no matter how you perceive yourself (or how fast you flap your arms)!... $.02 
Yep its "real" .... because we say its real. Reality is both fake and real. It depends on how you think of it. |
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Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, wave to Jeannie bean 
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Reality is illusion is reality ... Aaaaaauuuuuuuummmmm ...
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Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, wave to Jeannie bean
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6 billion mini universe's...we each choose if our dream is real or not.
It's all an illusion... |
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Ive had many of these very same thoughts myself.
Asked myself and others, what REALLY is the "point" of our lives as people, not individuals ourselves ? We live, we die, the end. Whats the deeper picture within it though ? Kinda like feelin like a chess piece on a board except the board.....is WAAAAAy bigger than our minds can even fathom. Just my .02 |
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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Fri 05/21/10 07:41 PM
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Kinda like feelin like a chess piece on a board except the board.....is WAAAAAy bigger than our minds can even fathom. Just my .02 Well, there's a very good reason for that. If the board were small enough to fully comprehend and understand, that would result in two very disturbing things: 1. There would no longer be any mystery because everything would be known. If anything was unknown, that would represent a board bigger than our minds can fathom. 2. If the universe was finite and completely known and understood, then we'd all feel quite trapped and restricted. In fact, we would actually BE quite trapped and restricted. As it is, the possiblities are as limitless as your imagination, and your freedom to dream knows no boundaries. Sew orange yew glad that the universe truly is unphathomable? 
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Whats the deeper picture within it though ? We are each so small yet so divine...and we are each responsible to find the deeper picture for ourselves. It's really a wonderful journey when we examine it.... |
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Edited by
redonkulous
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Sat 05/22/10 12:45 PM
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3 words.
What is real? __________________________________________ Until a distinction can be made between real and not real nothing objective can be said about reality. Real Defined: Definitions of real on the Web:
* being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verified existence; not illusory; "real objects"; "real people; not ghosts"; "a film based on real ... * real(a): no less than what is stated; worthy of the name; "the real reason"; "real war"; "a real friend"; "a real woman"; "meat and potatoes--I call that a real meal"; "it's time he had a real job"; "it's no penny-ante job--he's making real money" * not to be taken lightly; "statistics demonstrate that poverty and unemployment are very real problems"; "to the man sleeping regularly in doorways homelessness is real" * capable of being treated as fact; "tangible evidence"; "his brief time as Prime Minister brought few real benefits to the poor" * actual: being or reflecting the essential or genuine character of something; "her actual motive"; "a literal solitude like a desert"- G.K.Chesterton; "a genuine dilemma" * of, relating to, or representing an amount that is corrected for inflation; "real prices"; "real income"; "real wages" * real number: any rational or irrational number * substantial: having substance or capable of being treated as fact; not imaginary; "the substantial world"; "a mere dream, neither substantial nor practical"; "most ponderous and substantial things"- Shakespeare So if an imaginary pink hippo is not real, but the relationships of neural traffic that represents the imaginary pink hippo is real then we start to achieve the needed distinction. Representational concepts have a real, and not real component. The real component is the medium that does the representing. What is actually represented is not real. So even if you are a solipsist in the sense of disregarding an external reality, you still must tackle the fact that your experience must be representational, and based in some medium that can store the interactions required for such experiences to exist. Descartes summed this up as. "I think there for I am" This does not define what it is to exist, just the fact that experience in any form requires a medium for such interactions of thought and some form of reality for that thought to engage with stimulus. 95% of what is stored in our minds is lies....the 'reality' of those who came before us. The domestication of humans..to fit into societies standards, or our parents expectations, or church leaders, or to please our teachers. Keep asking questions, keep seeking, even when your solar plexus hurts...especially when it hurts because that's when you'll know it's important. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 05/22/10 01:46 PM
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I remember many long discussions here regarding the subject of what is real and what is reality.
We decided that reality is an agreement and also personal reality is basically an individual decision made by the observer. Then the term "actuality" was introduced (by creative I think) and I decided that if you define "actuality" as the "ultimate reality that supersedes our opinions and perceptions of our personal and group reality" that "actuality" cannot be known by a single individual. In short, the answer to your question is: Nobody really knows. 
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Edited by
Kings_Knight
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Sat 05/22/10 02:05 PM
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" ... Descartes summed this up as. "I think there for I am" ... " ( ahem ... ) ... ' ... I think there for I am ... " ... ? "I think in a particular place for I am ... " ? What ... ? I'm sure you meant to say Descartes said "Cogito, ergo sum". In this case, it may be more precise to rearrange that to "Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum." I'm just sayin', 'cuz the proper logical flow of argument is that existence is already assumed or pre-supposed in order for thinking to occur, not that existence is concluded from that thinking ... |
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Edited by
redonkulous
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Sun 05/23/10 02:07 PM
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" ... Descartes summed this up as. "I think there for I am" ... " ( ahem ... ) ... ' ... I think there for I am ... " ... ? "I think in a particular place for I am ... " ? What ... ? I'm sure you meant to say Descartes said "Cogito, ergo sum". In this case, it may be more precise to rearrange that to "Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum." I'm just sayin', 'cuz the proper logical flow of argument is that existence is already assumed or pre-supposed in order for thinking to occur, not that existence is concluded from that thinking ... Descartes came at the topic from both positions to finally conclude that at least he existed. Most proper philosophers will do this in order to flush out an idea. |
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