Topic: Courts will overturn Obamacare if Passed
JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 03/20/10 01:41 PM
Yep. We NEED " reform ".

But we NEED, more than ANYTHING else, our leaders to be SURE that what they are doing is going to work.

Right now, this bill has been basically nothing more than the Democrats throwing shite at a wall and seeing what sticks.

They don't know for sure that what they want to do will work.

They aren't taking into account the effect of throwing 30 MILLION more people into the pool.

They simply don't care.

They just want to pass SOMETHING and the country can go straight to hell as long as they get anything at all passed.

Quietman_2009's photo
Sat 03/20/10 01:46 PM
no one seems to be able to answer why there is such a rush to pass something that won't take effect until after the next Presidential election four years from now

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 03/20/10 01:48 PM

no one seems to be able to answer why there is such a rush to pass something that won't take effect until after the next Presidential election four years from now


and will take longer to make amendments on what doesn't work

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Sat 03/20/10 01:50 PM

no one seems to be able to answer why there is such a rush to pass something that won't take effect until after the next Presidential election four years from now


They have been trying to pass health care reform since President Truman....you call that a rush??? C'mon!

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Sat 03/20/10 01:59 PM


no one seems to be able to answer why there is such a rush to pass something that won't take effect until after the next Presidential election four years from now


They have been trying to pass health care reform since President Truman....you call that a rush??? C'mon!


exactly and the LONGER we wait. it will be even LATER before it takes effect...

cashu's photo
Sat 03/20/10 03:01 PM


If the bill was a GOOD BILL, a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT along with a DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS wouldn' have ALL THIS EFFORT AND CIRCUMVERSION OF PROCESS FOR IT TO PASS.


HUM!!!

- End of slavery
- Women's voting right
- Civil rights battles

Must all have been BAD BILLS, 'cause they all went through hell before landing!!!

Anyone suggesting today we should...

... take away women's voting rights!?!?!?

... go back to slavery (maybe white slavery for balance!?!?)

... or go back to segregated everything!?!?!?

Real Change is always met with Real Resistance.

Obama promised Real Change, and promising to provide 30 million + people with health coverage is met with Real Resistance!!!

At the end of the day, after all the resistance will have voiced and accounted for (years of fun and excitement), I doubt very much that the enlightening Constitution of the USA would argue against justice and fairness for ALL of the 'WE THE PEOPLE'!!!

I'm with you on this when you gona start rounding the peckerwoods up .

cashu's photo
Sat 03/20/10 03:03 PM

no one seems to be able to answer why there is such a rush to pass something that won't take effect until after the next Presidential election four years from now

uh were tried of it . he could of got a bill thru mos. ago if he had kept his liberal dogs under control .

mrgary48's photo
Sun 03/21/10 07:37 AM
i just love hearing conservatives complaining that obama not going buy the constitution. when bush bugged are phones and internet. its kind of funny hearing conservatives cry foul.

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Sun 03/21/10 08:13 AM


If the bill was a GOOD BILL, a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT along with a DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS wouldn' have ALL THIS EFFORT AND CIRCUMVERSION OF PROCESS FOR IT TO PASS.


HUM!!!

- End of slavery
- Women's voting right
- Civil rights battles

Must all have been BAD BILLS, 'cause they all went through hell before landing!!!

Anyone suggesting today we should...

... take away women's voting rights!?!?!?

... go back to slavery (maybe white slavery for balance!?!?)

... or go back to segregated everything!?!?!?

Real Change is always met with Real Resistance.

Obama promised Real Change, and promising to provide 30 million + people with health coverage is met with Real Resistance!!!

At the end of the day, after all the resistance will have voiced and accounted for (years of fun and excitement), I doubt very much that the enlightening Constitution of the USA would argue against justice and fairness for ALL of the 'WE THE PEOPLE'!!!








Say what about the civil rights act -

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 originally passed in the House by 290-130. Cloture was achieved in the Senate by a vote of 71-29, and the Senate then passed its version of the legislation 73-27. The House took up the Senate bill and passed it 289-126. Substantial majorities of both parties supported the legislation at every stage.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/03/health_care_isnt_like_civil_ri.html


I REPEAT - If the bill was a GOOD BILL, a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT along with a DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS wouldn' have ALL THIS EFFORT AND CIRCUMVERSION OF PROCESS FOR IT TO PASS.


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Sun 03/21/10 08:18 AM
if you go back in history. only one time in 100 years. was a bill overturned.so all you republicans can whine, but the poor of the USA. need and want health care. saving on health care could put more food on the table for poor Americans. so to conservatives. you have proven you don't care about the poor. only when fighting a war.

RandomX's photo
Sun 03/21/10 08:22 AM
This does not increase COVERAGE it gives a "Gift" to the Insurance Industry by making INSURANCE MANDATORY to Purchase...It increases the power of the IRS they can take ur TAX RETURN in fines if they DEEM u have enough money to buy health care yet not be on Medicaid Its a bad Bill and will Lead to an Authoritarian Dictatorship with Obama being the head Dic

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Sun 03/21/10 08:27 AM
as i listen to conservative radio. all these statement have been made buy rush Limbaugh and Glenn beck daily.as i get my health care from us army. not giving to me. after 22 years in the army. i earn it.but for the poor. without health care they die. i guess caring for your fellow man. are just words.

RandomX's photo
Sun 03/21/10 08:33 AM
We all Die....It`s Inevitable

mrgary48's photo
Sun 03/21/10 08:38 AM
that's being kind of cold hearted don't you think. most of those poor fought to make our country free. so now you republicans want war, but to much of a coward to fight in them. as i recall. i use to be republicans while in army. but i seen how republicans hide behind there mommas. when comes time to fight.

RandomX's photo
Sun 03/21/10 08:42 AM

that's being kind of cold hearted don't you think. most of those poor fought to make our country free. so now you republicans want war, but to much of a coward to fight in them. as i recall. i use to be republicans while in army. but i seen how republicans hide behind there mommas. when comes time to fight.



I served as well and I hope if Obama goes to far that Soldiers stop Obeying his orders on the grounds that his orders (if he is going for the Socialist utopia I think he is)are Unconstitutional

mrgary48's photo
Sun 03/21/10 08:45 AM
soldiers are not all republicans. they realize that obama doing best he can. but for me if i was still in army. i would laid my weapon down. i refuse to fight while some rich conservative goes to college. so what makes conservative life batter then mine.

RandomX's photo
Sun 03/21/10 08:53 AM

soldiers are not all republicans. they realize that obama doing best he can. but for me if i was still in army. i would laid my weapon down. i refuse to fight while some rich conservative goes to college. so what makes conservative life batter then mine.



Not all but enough are that I think the Military would "Set things right" If Obama Ran Afoul of the constitution

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Sun 03/21/10 09:40 AM
Edited by TJN on Sun 03/21/10 10:00 AM


no one seems to be able to answer why there is such a rush to pass something that won't take effect until after the next Presidential election four years from now


They have been trying to pass health care reform since President Truman....you call that a rush??? C'mon!

Well with all that time the liberals have had to draft a bill, what some 60 plus years, one would think it would have more support than this bill. Why are bribes and these secrect deals being made if it's soooo good? It's a sad time in our country when politians are threatening and bribing their own party with to vote for a bill against their constituants wishes.

Quietman_2009's photo
Sun 03/21/10 10:25 AM
Th New England Journal of Medicine conducted a survey that found that 30% of all doctors in America will retire if this health car bill pass. We will lose a third of all our doctors. I wonder what that will do to the price and availability of health care

MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 03/21/10 10:45 AM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Sun 03/21/10 10:45 AM


soldiers are not all republicans. they realize that obama doing best he can. but for me if i was still in army. i would laid my weapon down. i refuse to fight while some rich conservative goes to college. so what makes conservative life batter then mine.



Not all but enough are that I think the Military would "Set things right" If Obama Ran Afoul of the constitution


Uh, that would be a traitorous action...but I only came in here to point out that there's no legal precedent for this...what a lame claim all together. More RW nutbaggery...