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Ya knowfear might be right
I did learn how to love I did learn how to hate then I think abused people.... Some still love the abuser some hate them this is deep....gotta think this one out!!! 
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Is love really an emotion? 
No, I'm serious. I'm not really convinced it is, it can't really be classified as a feeling, thought, or behaviour. Love is sporadic and random at best, it doesn't occur in everyone and it surely isn't natural. I guess it is debatable. Well, I love my turtle, so whatever. It's real enough for me. I'm not saying it isn't real, I'm just saying it can't really be classified as an emotion...or is debatable at best. Hmmmm, but it's a feeling I feel. So that makes it an emotion, right? But it doesn't occur naturally, it is a learned trait. We don't know love unless we are taught it, love is an acquired trait. Matter of opinion I guess, but I don't personally think love is an emotion. We learn hate too. Is hate an emotion? No, hate is a learned trait as well. Anger is natural, but it doesn't turn into hate until someone is taught to hate something for a specific reason. How about lust? Joy, trust, fear, surprise, sadness, disgust, anger, and anticipation are all emotions as they are natural. When you are born and as an infant you know all of these, love, lust, hate, etc. all come from what we are taught. We are not born and automatically feel love or hate, or even lust. Like I said, it is debatable. So how shall I refer to the emotion I feel for my turtle? 
Trust, naturally. Love is a by-product of education, and unfortunately we will probably never really be able to definitively say whether it is an emotion or not. It was like I was saying in another thread, your whole life love is merely taught and hardly ever felt or recognized...so your entire life you have this large misconception of what it is, because we don't feel it naturally, whereas there is no misconception with trust. |
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So I trust my turtle. Okay. It doesn't sound as good as love, but I guess it's better than nothing.
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So I trust my turtle. Okay. It doesn't sound as good as love, but I guess it's better than nothing. Well, it could very well be love. However, this is love you were taught and not a universal love, so to speak. Trust is universal, we all know what it means and we all know how to do it, same goes for anger or sadness. Your love is not their love just as their love is not your love, see where I'm coming from? Now trust, your trust is the same as their trust, it is a universal concept. We know trust from birth. |
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So I trust my turtle. Okay. It doesn't sound as good as love, but I guess it's better than nothing. Well, it could very well be love. However, this is love you were taught and not a universal love, so to speak. Trust is universal, we all know what it means and we all know how to do it, same goes for anger or sadness. Your love is not their love just as their love is not your love, see where I'm coming from? Now trust, your trust is the same as their trust, it is a universal concept. We know trust from birth. Maybe......I think I'll call it love. He's only a turtle, he won't know the difference. And he doesn't love me back, so it's no big deal... |
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I will ponder this as I fall asleep...
 
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me too, ruth. night night
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Love cannot be taught or learned because it is who we are.
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This reminds me of the poem by Robert Frost - Fire and Ice
Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire I hold with those who favor fire. But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate To say that for destruction ice Is also great And would suffice. Robert Frost |
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Love cannot be taught or learned because it is who we are. Matter of opinion, personally, that doesn't make any sense at all to me. |
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true, it does depend on what paths you have chosen in life, or those that chose you.
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true, it does depend on what paths you have chosen in life, or those that chose you. Not really. Moreso the path is already chosen, if no one is there to teach you what love and hate is, you have no grasp on either. It is increasingly made difficult if someone never feels love or hate, or feels more love than hate or even vice versa, then it is a misrepresentation of either. The best example I can come up with is Nazi's, they teach their kids hate at a young age, the kid grows up knowing hate, and the love that the kid knows is the complete polar opposite of what most would see love as. Which means that love and hate are not universal, which emotions are. |
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This reminds me of the poem by Robert Frost - Fire and Ice Some say the world will end in fire, Some say in ice. From what I've tasted of desire I hold with those who favor fire. But if it had to perish twice, I think I know enough of hate To say that for destruction ice Is also great And would suffice. Robert Frost I really like this. |
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Not really? Paths are already chosen for you? If that's what you believe.
In essence what you're saying is that Nazi children only know the hate that they're taught. Their love is totally different than someone else. Perhaps in your world that's true. In mine love is universal, you just feel a different type of love for each person. Tell you what, fall in love...the kind of love that lasts forever, then tell me the same thing. |
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Not really? Paths are already chosen for you? If that's what you believe. In essence what you're saying is that Nazi children only know the hate that they're taught. Their love is totally different than someone else. Perhaps in your world that's true. In mine love is universal, you just feel a different type of love for each person. Tell you what, fall in love...the kind of love that lasts forever, then tell me the same thing. That is exactly what I'm saying. Exactly what I've been saying. Whatever, I can see we are going to pull the experience over knowledge card here...so I'll leave it at that. |
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Not really? Paths are already chosen for you? If that's what you believe. In essence what you're saying is that Nazi children only know the hate that they're taught. Their love is totally different than someone else. Perhaps in your world that's true. In mine love is universal, you just feel a different type of love for each person. Tell you what, fall in love...the kind of love that lasts forever, then tell me the same thing. That is exactly what I'm saying. Exactly what I've been saying. Whatever, I can see we are going to pull the experience over knowledge card here...so I'll leave it at that. |
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Not really? Paths are already chosen for you? If that's what you believe. In essence what you're saying is that Nazi children only know the hate that they're taught. Their love is totally different than someone else. Perhaps in your world that's true. In mine love is universal, you just feel a different type of love for each person. Tell you what, fall in love...the kind of love that lasts forever, then tell me the same thing. That is exactly what I'm saying. Exactly what I've been saying. Whatever, I can see we are going to pull the experience over knowledge card here...so I'll leave it at that. This whole thread I've been saying love is differently viewed by everyone...in one swoop of arrogance you knocked my opinion down to being null in favor of your opinion. If experience breeds knowledge, as you say it does...I want nothing to do with it. Your love is not my love, their love is not my love, my love is not like anyone else's love. Funny how we completly forget the diversity of the world in favor of our own personal views, and arrogantly assume that our view is the correct view. Keep your experience, I'll keep my knowledge...one, I can guarantee will do me far better than the other (in other words, my knowledge will take me further than your experience). |
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Not really? Paths are already chosen for you? If that's what you believe. In essence what you're saying is that Nazi children only know the hate that they're taught. Their love is totally different than someone else. Perhaps in your world that's true. In mine love is universal, you just feel a different type of love for each person. Tell you what, fall in love...the kind of love that lasts forever, then tell me the same thing. That is exactly what I'm saying. Exactly what I've been saying. Whatever, I can see we are going to pull the experience over knowledge card here...so I'll leave it at that. This whole thread I've been saying love is differently viewed by everyone...in one swoop of arrogance you knocked my opinion down to being null in favor of your opinion. If experience breeds knowledge, as you say it does...I want nothing to do with it. Your love is not my love, their love is not my love, my love is not like anyone else's love. Funny how we completly forget the diversity of the world in favor of our own personal views, and arrogantly assume that our view is the correct view. Keep your experience, I'll keep my knowledge...one, I can guarantee will do me far better than the other (in other words, my knowledge will take me further than your experience). LOL...I did say that it was different....this has gotten out of hand Fear. I have no wish to bicker with you over opinions. Experience does indeed breed knowledge. Why do you think job interviewers ask you about experience? Not if you "know" about a certain job, but have you ever actually done it. Ever heard the phrase, "experience is the best teacher". I'm done, I have work to do. |
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Edited by
Shasta1
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Tue 02/16/10 07:52 AM
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Love, because it stays longer. Anger, for me, comes and quickly goes. Forgiveand forget. But when I love someone, it's forever- apparently, even if I don't like them so much anymore.
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Who is more pathetic; one who spends every waking hour of every day on a website asking philosophical questions from total strangers (his best friends) or those who try to answer these elementary questions and act like this kindergarten Plato is some genius rather than just a walled in loser with a 2 digit IQ?
Oops...I'm betting he has tenure here. lol |
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