All four of those universal forces are at work during sex, I won't bore you with how, but sex is not the fifth force. In fact it is more appropiately labeled an "instinct." One some can control better than others.

Thats right!

Oh, I wish the above quote have never been mentioned (and reaffirmed) -- although I cannot deny it's correctness -- because that means everything I've ever experienced (i.e. spiritual unity, tantric sex, etc.) is nothing more than just a simple "instinct"!!!

He said that sex is 'more appropriately labeled' an instinct - certainly thats a far 'more appropriate' label than saying it is 'fifth force', where the other four forces are gravity, electromagnetic, the strong and the weak. The latter is so wrong, that just about anything would be 'more appropriate'.

(BTW, I'm not saying those 4 are the "proper" breakdown, some see electric and magnetic as separate, and other see electromagnetic and weak as unified in electroweak - thats irrelevant to the question of consistent word usage. )

While I think that drawing too close comparison of the so-called 'force' of sex to the 'force' of electromagnetism would be simple minded and contrary to the evidence, I'm not saying that 'all that you've experienced' in those areas is 'nothing more than instinct'. Maybe it is, or maybe its a more involved than that.

Oh, thank you very much, MT, for clarification!!!

I was beginning to worry whether I'm nothing more than a simple biological init engaged in performing the instinctual function!
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Hahahahahaha...wow. That is truly hilarious.

Not knowing exactly what this "four universal forces" business was about; I looked it up. And...wow.

You all keep saying, "oh, the four universal forces are at work during s--," like it's some special, singular activity that, by its sheer special-ness, brings them all together.

Read this:

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/kids_space/forces.html&edu=high

Tell me, does the physical chemistry of human beings, matter, and the whole universe change when two human beings engage in intercourse?

O_O

Please, don't speak. I don't want to read the answer. My heart--my brain--can't take it.

WELL SAID, ZPicante!!!

_________ THIS USELESS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN PROVOKED BY

_________ BY SEVERE INSUFFICIENCY OF THE ACTUAL FORNICATION !!!

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Hey, it was educational and amusing to some!



So very true. You speak wisdom, JaneStar.

Someone implied that? I didn't see that anywhere. Certainly not on this page. Where was this implied?

It looks to me like you, me, and CatsLoveMe all agree on how the 'categories' of forces, actions, desires, etc should be viewed.

Simply existing as a human being (or as a rock, for that matter!) brings all four forces into play.

Thank you, JaneStar.

Uhhh...more than implied....

"All four of those universal forces are at work during sex, I won't bore you with how, but sex is not the fifth force. In fact it is more appropiately labeled an "instinct." One some can control better than others."

...And? All four of those forces are also at work during jogging, so...hurray? <:|

It just seems redundant, even if he's not the first person to mention that.

Moreover, and I missed this before in reference to that CatsLoveMe quote (and I am repeating myself):

SEX IS NOT AN INSTINCT!!

IT IS NOT A DRIVE, NOT A FORCE, NOTHING BUT A PHYSICAL, BIOLOGICAL ACTION. Driven by instincts/forces/drives? YES! BUT SEX ITSELF IS NOT ANY OF THOSE THINGS:

SEX IS AN ACTION!!!

AN ACTION!!

Ugh.

Yes, you are correct that all four at work during jogging, and he is correct about all four being at work during sex. As far as your question...



...well it looks to me like he was simply making clear (as you and I have) that the original question was based of false set of categories. Its like if someone asks "Is that a citrus fruit, or a grapefruit?" one might wish to clarify that those are not mutually exclusive categories, as the question implies, by saying "Grapefruit is a type of citrus". So someone suggests "Sex is the 5th force" and another says "no, all four are using during sex, but sex is not a 5th force".

Maybe you were expecting his statement to have a deeper meaning than it had? At face value, its as simple as your (correct) statement about jogging.

Freud called it an instinct (if I remember correctly), biologists call it a "function"...I'd say sociology is at play as well.

Thank you. Thank you. *Cryin'*

Seriously, I think I get what you're saying, my main man. Just please calm down. Okay? ;)

Sexual attraction is the drivng force that supports our existence on this planet. I believe it could be measured by measuring the activity within the pleasure centers in the brain which are electrical impulses.

Cool.



I don't understand. Are you being ironic? Did I seem 'not calm' in my writing?

trunner69:

... not only measured, but accumulated also:
can you imagine how much kilowatts of power could be accumulated during a single act??? Though, the most effective would have to be a group sex: the energy accumulated could be equivalent to three horse powers!!! (enough for powering a rechargeable battery for a flash light, or something...)

Honestly, why would anybody want to measure it Perhaps, for creating an artificial reliever equipment? (a hat one puts on for experiencing the motions???) Phuck, how pathetic is that???

Although, from the pracrical point of view, it might be a great deter'ment of violence at prisons -- rewarding the inmates for good behavior!!! All of the criminals would voluntarily surrender to the police -- for a chance of getting back behind the bars (that would be renamed to "a pleasure house"!)
_____________Gee, What a marvelous idea!!!________

it's all about..... friction

it's all about..... friction

Friction? Oh, I see...
Friction? Oh, I see...

Do you always repeat the obvious twice?
Do you always repeat the obvious twice?

Don't they actually have conjugal visits (you know, with real people) for inmates...?

There is no benefit to creating a prototypical measurement of whatever "force/s" is/are involved in that activity, mostly because determining such a standard measurement is literally impossible: There is no measurable and "standard" science to that activity, considering the innumerable differences between individuals involved and the high irregularity of the amount of force involved (in part, due to the difference masses of the people involved). No. Just no!!

Not clever.