Topic: Smart octopus
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Tue 12/15/09 04:43 PM
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After years of surprising scientists with their cleverness and smarts, some octopuses appear to also use tools.

Veined octopuses observed off the coast of Indonesia carried coconut shell halves under their bodies, and assembled them as necessary into shelters — something that wasn’t supposed to be possible in their corner of the animal kingdom.

“To date, invertebrates have generally been regarded as lacking the cognitive abilities to engage in such sophisticated behaviors,” wrote Museum Victoria biologists who described the octopuses in a paper published Monday in Current Biology. “The discovery of this octopus tiptoeing across the sea floor with its prized coconut shells suggests that even marine invertebrates engage in behaviors that we once thought the preserve of humans.”

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Tue 12/15/09 06:13 PM

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/octopus-tools/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wired/index+(Wired:+Index+3+(Top+Stories+2))

After years of surprising scientists with their cleverness and smarts, some octopuses appear to also use tools.

Veined octopuses observed off the coast of Indonesia carried coconut shell halves under their bodies, and assembled them as necessary into shelters — something that wasn’t supposed to be possible in their corner of the animal kingdom.

“To date, invertebrates have generally been regarded as lacking the cognitive abilities to engage in such sophisticated behaviors,” wrote Museum Victoria biologists who described the octopuses in a paper published Monday in Current Biology. “The discovery of this octopus tiptoeing across the sea floor with its prized coconut shells suggests that even marine invertebrates engage in behaviors that we once thought the preserve of humans.”





glasses I believe that in the future there will be uplifted transhuman octopi living amongst us.glasses

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Tue 12/15/09 06:28 PM

glasses I believe that in the future there will be uplifted transhuman octopi living amongst us.glasses


Have you read any of David Brin's work?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brin#The_Uplift_stories

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Tue 12/15/09 07:18 PM


glasses I believe that in the future there will be uplifted transhuman octopi living amongst us.glasses


Have you read any of David Brin's work?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brin#The_Uplift_stories
bigsmile Yes,I'm a huge fan of hisbigsmile

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Wed 12/16/09 04:41 PM



glasses I believe that in the future there will be uplifted transhuman octopi living amongst us.glasses


Have you read any of David Brin's work?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brin#The_Uplift_stories
bigsmile Yes,I'm a huge fan of hisbigsmile


The uplift stories are great! Did you read 'Kiln People' or 'Practice Effect' ?

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Wed 12/16/09 04:47 PM
I had a guy in class nearly barf when I showed him this thing this morning rofl Oh I love Darren

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Wed 12/16/09 04:51 PM

I had a guy in class nearly barf when I showed him this thing this morning rofl Oh I love Darren


Do mollusks make him nauseous?

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Wed 12/16/09 04:53 PM
Apparently at 8am octopi aren't his favourite.

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Wed 12/16/09 05:11 PM
He might like to be reminded, then, that some people fry up the tentacles! Rather like 'onion rings' you get at fast food places. Except chewier; bit rubbery actually. Rubbery, and textured, by those little suction nubs on the tentacles!

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 12/16/09 05:32 PM




glasses I believe that in the future there will be uplifted transhuman octopi living amongst us.glasses


Have you read any of David Brin's work?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brin#The_Uplift_stories
bigsmile Yes,I'm a huge fan of hisbigsmile


The uplift stories are great! Did you read 'Kiln People' or 'Practice Effect' ?
drinker Read most of the various Uplift storiesdrinker

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Wed 12/16/09 05:38 PM

He might like to be reminded, then, that some people fry up the tentacles! Rather like 'onion rings' you get at fast food places. Except chewier; bit rubbery actually. Rubbery, and textured, by those little suction nubs on the tentacles!


I love those. They go great in hot rice dishes.

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Wed 12/16/09 05:48 PM

The uplift stories are great! Did you read 'Kiln People' or 'Practice Effect' ?
drinker Read most of the various Uplift storiesdrinker


Kiln People is awesome! Its my favorite Brin book so far. Among other things, it sorta indirectly revisits the social upheaval of the industrial revolution from a different perspective, and it touches briefly on an idea that doesn't get enough consideration: the excess of material wealth created by advancing technology is making us unhappy. These were not even themes of the book, just incidental aspects I enjoyed.

'Practice Effect' is a quick, fun read.