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the teacher told the boy in school. "Just say 'I know the truth' and people will tell you their secrets" So he went home and told his mom "I know the truth" and she gave him $20 and said "don't tell your dad' he told his dad "I know the truth" and he gave him $50 and said "don't tell your mom" he told the mailman "I know the truth" and the mailman said "awwwww come give your dad a big hug" lol,, cute |
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the teacher told the boy in school. "Just say 'I know the truth' and people will tell you their secrets" So he went home and told his mom "I know the truth" and she gave him $20 and said "don't tell your dad' he told his dad "I know the truth" and he gave him $50 and said "don't tell your mom" he told the mailman "I know the truth" and the mailman said "awwwww come give your dad a big hug" |
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Edited by
SoulCollide
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Thu 12/17/09 12:59 PM
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nope. agnosticism has to do with everything being unknowable. This doesn't rule out blind faith. The position I am describing is is an agnostic position called fideism: belief in God purely on faith. Agnosticism also only has to do with only SOME things being unknowable (the supernatural). Otherwise, personal experience an agnostic can only know that which he experiences himself. would be invalid as well. The view that one can only know from experience is a radical stance on the reliability of the senses, which is a completely different philosophical argument than the nature of truth. to believe in a concept is to know in your mind that your belief is true. This is circular logic, and it undermines the subtle intonations of the word belief. I feel a more adequate definition would be: a CHOICE to accept a PROPOSED truth. Yes, to know in your mind that a belief is true is (according to agnosticism) impossible because it is indicative of there being evidence, but this point is not relevant when attempting to reconcile belief with agnosticism. an agnostic cannot know anything absolutely so an agnostic cannot believe anything much less that god exists. What you are describing is more akin to epistemological nihilism. an agnostic simply thinks that he can never know whether or not god exists. Yes. He can never KNOW for CERTAIN. This does not rule out faith or belief. It simply defaults the logic to settling, without proof, on either A.yes, B.no, or C.no comment. Whether or not you've chosen C has nothing to do with agnosticism, it only has to do with your stance therein. this does not make me an atheist however, regardless of how you define an atheist. I define atheism (broadly) as the rejection of theism due to a lack of empirical evidence (there is no empirical evidence, therefore God does not exist), and I agree with you. It doesn't make you an atheist, and it was not my intention to imply that you were. If you were to take the stance "I find no compelling reason to believe in the existence of God, therefore i chose not to" you would be an agnostic-atheist. p.s. I post "lots-o-words" because i have fun thinking about this stuff and it gives debaters more bits to counterpoint-- which basically furthers everyones purposes and helps us all consolidate and further our own arguments and sharpen our intellects. I assure you all that no insult or condescention is intended, and I'm not making an attempt to "look smart". I am be just havin' fun b*otches! |
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The truth is I cannot prove everything but I at least know better than to accept "truth" from a snakeoil salesperson.
Any of you know this snake? She was a porn star and is now a thief. |
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Edited by
Eljay
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Thu 12/17/09 08:50 PM
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You decide based on what is true for you. There is no absolute truth. So - by your own words - there is absolute truth. since there are no absolutes, your statement cannot be absolutely true, and is therefore - false. Conclusion - there must be absolute truth. And that is an absolute. |
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we dont have a truth. our hearts are deceitful and wicked above all things. we are prone to lie. the truth is not in no one. No not one.
God's Spirit is Truth. That is the only truth we have and will ever know. |
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