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hi.. is anyone of the eastern orthodox faith? I am Greek orthodox and
would like to know if I am the only one????thanks.. |
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Hello, sorry I'm not but welcome.
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I'm not either. But, you are welcome to stay and chat with all of us. It
gets loud sometimes. But it is cool. Kat |
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Hi Evan,
I know so little about the Greek Orthodox faith. If it does not make you uncomfortable, I'm sure there are many here who would like to learn more. We are a diverse group here and I'm sure you will find a welcome mat by many of those who post here. We have many Christians who have varying views from person to person. Can you say how the Greek Orthodox varies from the mainstream Christian faith? Welcome to JSH |
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hi.. being raised in a greek family where church was a huge part of
life. To all Greeks.. church is a huge part of their lives.. and food , too!!!! We are a faith that has not changed in 2000 years of practice. Change meaning.. the traditions.. litugy.. dogmas... sacraments. I know little of the catechism.. yes.. I slept through greek school. my first husband has a degree in theology.. he is of the same faith... and I have to say.. an expert. That is the only thing he is smart in.. ok.. I will be nice. so.. if you ask a question.. I can always ask him if I can't find it... I DO have a book... everything you wanted to know about the eastern orthodox church.. ect... very basic and answers many basic questions. We have traditions that stay the same for 2000 years. we were centuries ago.. called the Holy Roman Catholic Church.. catholic..meaning universal. There were several schisms.. but the great schism.. in I may be wrong.. in 1054.. NOT SURE... the East split from the west.. on a couple of disagreements in the way they... interpret the Nicene Creed, the infalliablity of the Pope and the issue.. was the Virgin Mary born with or without original sin. These three issues ..because of disagreement.. caused the split. WE do not believe that the pope is infalliable, we DO believe the Virgin mary was born with orginal sin and in the wording of the trinty in the nicene creed is different. I will have to look it up... if anyone is interested. The orthodox church has a Partriarch.. not a pope and he follows the rules of the church set forth from the early church fathers. He lets the faith go on.. he has no authority to make changes. WE are allowed 3 divorces.. NOT ANNULMENTS but divorces. Birth control is encouraged. My priest told me when I was filing for divorce.. and I was feeling bad. he said.. staying in a marriage where you are not happy is not mandatory to get into heaven... We believe birth control is important as sex between spouses is not just to have children but one of the many, important ways to express love. Our priests may be married before they are ordained.. because they do marital counseling and duh... they can relate!!! if they want to pursue being a bishop or archbishop,, then celibacy is the rule. Our church is filled with beautiful incense.. chanting.. hymns.. and wonderous icons to venerate. VENERATE.. NOT WORSHIP.. but difference. WE remember those who died in Christ's name. We ask them to put in a good word for us up there.. (we all need it). It is no different than humans on earth meeting for a prayer session for someone sick or in need of other things. If I think of anything.. more.. which there is more.. I will continue.. thanks.. |
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THANK YOU FOR SHARING EVANLIA ED
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you are quite welcome.
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Evan,
Most interesting. So appreciate you sharing. Question, Is it your faith that has kept to the original calender, for holidays? Also, do you still follow the rituals of communion, confirmation, baptism? As far as you know are any you do follow different from other Christian religions? Oh and one more, Is the Bible the only reference material used or are there others? Also, which version of the Bible, or does it matter? Thank-you again, so very much for your willingness to share |
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Thanks EvanLia for posting! So many questions for you...
Are the masses spoken in Greek? Modern greek ? Is the scripture set the same? Are there different books? Are there different "traditions" in the Greek Orthodox? For example, in Roman Catholic there are wonderful stories about Peter & Paul performing 'magic acts' when they were executed. I read about some of the traditions of Andrew - is that part of the Greek Orthodox? Are there any traditions/rites that would strike us as "wow, thats different" -Thanks, Mike |
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hi.. in my faith.. an infant is presented to the church after 40 days of
birth as did in the jewish faith .. babies were brought to the temple. After 40 days... anytime.. the infant has an exorcism.. at the back of the church.. the Godparents stand with the priest and baby with their backs to the alter.. and they say prayers and the priest asks the Godparents to renounce satan and spit in his name. Then, they turn to face the alter and ask them if they accept Christ as their savior and bow to him. Then.. the baby is undressed... and annointed with olive oil.. tradition holds that John the Baptist annointed Christ with olive oil... the baby is from head to toe annointed.. then he is dunked three times for the trinty..his hair is cut in the sign of the cross as his first offerings to Christ.. he is dressed in white..he is chrismated. The baby and the Godparents led by the Priest then walk around the "colimbithra" as symbolic of the babies first steps as an Orthodox christian meaning his first steps are in the path of Christ. The Colimbithra is the giant baptismal font. sort of like an soft boiled egg holder. Candles are held by Godparents symbolic that always Christ is the light of the world. The baby is give Holy Communion as part of the original sin... according to the faith .. the devil loves nothing more than an unbaptised baby. The Godparents are now confirmed to be part of the family and are called.. "koumbaro and Koumbara" and they are bonded through this family and trust me... we are... it is for life. Then as all good Greeks do.. we go and eat.. and drink... and eat and dance.. and throw money...and break plates.. those greeks.. we love to eat.. drink and dance.. OPA!! |
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hi.. also to mikemontana's question.. it is not in modern greek.. the
Liturgy .. not mass. my mom.. being born and raised in Greek.. says..it can be very hard to follow.. it is more ancient. I like going to an american orthodox church. You can follow along well... |
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hi..again.. .. yes..we follow the original calendar. we have PASCHA..
which means passover.. and this is our "easter". We must have PASCHA after the jewish passover as it actually happened in Christ's time . you can't have EASTER until the jews have their passover. Pascha and passover is determined by the venicular exquinox.. ok.. I have to go to my book... |
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im greek orthadox too!!!
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hi..our church venerates so many saints and martyrs.. all saints have
performed miracles. We have the bible.. and other books. I have to look that up.. WE have a great bible.. called the Greek Orthodox study bible. it has the explanations or interpretations off to the side. We have alot of traditions and rules that many love and want.. especially converts and many challenge the rules and traditons as man made. I find it comforting to know.. my faith is there for me.. that I can go and it is still the same.. predictable as we are creatures of habit and routine. there is no new rule of the day.. either you believe and love it or try another faith. That is what I say.. I can't force anyone to love it. so.. I hope lots of this is informative.. there are web sites ... further.. to explain and I will continue to try to answer questions. |
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hi... well... were you converted to the faith? or just married to
someone who was an orthodox? thanks |
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Evan, thanks, a wealth of information. I know that Greek families are
very close. I think it's the constant interaction they have with each other - after all if there's ever a reason to celebrate leave it to a good Greek family to find it. As you said, the food that flows is grand and among the best I have tasted. You are fortunate to have such a family. Again, nice to have you in the posts. |
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hi.. and thank you.. yes.. we also have great greek festivals at the
church..lollolololol... gyros... baklava... lamb.. roasted potatoes.. with lemon chicken..grapeleaves... feta... I am hungry..lol... |
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