Topic: Texas Sovereignty Trampled by Homeland Security
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Tue 11/03/09 07:12 PM
Edited by saturn69 on Tue 11/03/09 07:13 PM
More Americans kill,rape,ect,Americans than illegals do.

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Tue 11/03/09 07:22 PM

:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)

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Tue 11/03/09 07:29 PM

More Americans kill,rape,ect,Americans than illegals do.


but the Americans are not illegal. We cannot deport them, we sure as heck can deport the criminals back to their own Country, but seal our borders first.

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Tue 11/03/09 07:35 PM


More Americans kill,rape,ect,Americans than illegals do.


but the Americans are not illegal. We cannot deport them, we sure as heck can deport the criminals back to their own Country, but seal our borders first.


Oh I do hope you run for Congress one day! flowerforyou

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Tue 11/03/09 07:36 PM
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/30/san-franciscos-illegal-alien-drug-dealer-shuttle-service/

San Francisco’s illegal alien drug dealer shuttle service
By Michelle Malkin • June 30, 2008 05:00 AM Hope you pay close attention to what San Francisco’s illegal alien sanctuary policy has wrought. Over the weekend, the SFChronicle reported that open-borders radicals in the city’s juvenile probation department are shielding Honduran illegal alien drug dealers from prosecution and deportation by providing them a taxpayer-subsidized escort and plane ride back to their home country–where they can promptly turn around and re-enter the U.S. with impunity. It’s the San Fran illegal alien drug kingpin shuttle service. All in the name of “family reunification” and protecting the “youths,” of course! The feds and the city are pointing fingers. Nobody will admit how many illegal alien drug dealers have received the free ride home and then returned.

Meantime, outlaw sanctuary cities go unpunished. ACLU-friendly judges refuse to side with the rule of law. The White House has stood by and done nothing as San Francisco flagrantly thumbs its nose at federal immigration laws–and openly advertises its sanctuary status. How many other illegal thugs in how many other sanctuary cities are enjoying such perks?

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Tue 11/03/09 07:46 PM


:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:

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Tue 11/03/09 07:52 PM


Texas Says No To Transport Of Illegal Aliens Through Presidio
Source: Governor of Texas

Posted on: 2nd November 2009

Plan would move illegal aliens apprehended in other states through Presidio

Gov. Rick Perry today sent a letter to U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano urging the federal government to stop its plans to transport illegal aliens from other states into Texas solely for the purpose of deportation.

The Alien Transfer and Exit Program (ATEP), which is scheduled to begin tomorrow, would transport more than 34,000 illegal aliens per year through Presidio.

“Turning the Presidio area into a way station for the repatriation of illegal immigrants adds responsibility to local authorities and holds the potential of increasing the strain on local and state infrastructure and resources,” Gov. Perry said. “This plan will increase the likelihood that these individuals will immediately cross back into Texas, which is already bearing an uneven burden in dealing with immigration and border security issues along the Texas-Mexico border.”

Gov. Perry noted this program is a result of the federal government’s continued lack of an effective strategy for dealing with border security.

“Texas is proud of its working relationship with the United States Border Patrol, and we have invested significant state resources to assist them in their worthy efforts. We will continue to request that the federal government send the adequate resources necessary to effectively secure the southern border,” Gov. Perry said.

Since January, Gov. Perry has repeatedly urged the federal government, through letters to President Barack Obama, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, to approve his request for 1,000 Title 32 National Guardsmen to support civilian law enforcement efforts to enhance border security in Texas.

A porous border places Texas and the nation at risk from international terrorists, organized crime cartels and transnational gangs. Until the federal government fulfills its responsibility of securing our border, Texas will continue filling in the gaps by putting more boots on the ground, providing increased law enforcement resources and leveraging technology along the border.

In the absence of adequate federal resources to secure the state’s southern border, Gov. Perry recently announced the state’s latest border security enhancement using highly-skilled Ranger Reconnaissance (Ranger Recon) Teams to address the ever evolving threat along the Texas-Mexico border. Additionally, under the governor’s leadership and thanks to action taken by the Legislature, the state has dedicated more than $110 million to border security efforts in each of the last two legislative sessions.

To view the governor’s letter to Secretary Napolitano please visi
Attached File: Gov. Perry’s Letter to Secretary Napolitano



http://thegovmonitor.com/world_news/united_states/texas-says-no-to-transport-of-illegal-aliens-through-presidio-13254.html

http://governor.state.tx.us/files/press-office/NapolitanoJanet200910310000.pdf

Why can't those illegals be deported back the way they came? Why does Homeland Security need to bus these people (34,000 per year) half way across the continent just to drop them off in a place where it's certain they will cross again into the State of Texas?

Where does the Federal Government derive the authority to shift the illegal immigration problems of other states to the back porch of another state?



This is actually hilarious.

They are busing illegals out of our country WHICH IS WHAT THE HATEFILLED RIGHTWINGERS HAVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT SINCE I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN and now you want to ***** about The PATH THEY USE TO DEPORT ALL THESE (BY THE HATEFILLED RIGHTWINGERS STANCE TERRIBLE CRIMINALS) (NOT TRUE BY THE WAY) PEOPLE OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!!!

Talk about hypocrital b-ulls-hitslaphead whoa spock noway noway noway noway grumble frown

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Tue 11/03/09 07:53 PM



More Americans kill,rape,ect,Americans than illegals do.


but the Americans are not illegal. We cannot deport them, we sure as heck can deport the criminals back to their own Country, but seal our borders first.


Oh I do hope you run for Congress one day! flowerforyou


That is a scary thoughtsurprised surprised surprised surprised surprised shocked scared

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Tue 11/03/09 07:53 PM



:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


False. You only have that impression because Federal politicians have been lying to you about it. Read the 10th ammendment.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

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Tue 11/03/09 07:54 PM



:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


It was resolved by the civil war so we know that a state cannot be soveriegn and still be part of these here United States.

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Tue 11/03/09 07:56 PM




:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


False. You only have that impression because Federal politicians have been lying to you about it. Read the 10th ammendment.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You are wrong, look it up.

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Tue 11/03/09 07:59 PM




:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


False. You only have that impression because Federal politicians have been lying to you about it. Read the 10th ammendment.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


Further: you wouldn't have any of the rights mentioned in the bill of rights if not for the Anti-Federalists. They knew what they were doing. glasses

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Tue 11/03/09 08:01 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Tue 11/03/09 08:11 PM





:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


False. You only have that impression because Federal politicians have been lying to you about it. Read the 10th ammendment.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You are wrong, look it up.


I just quoted the document directly! If you don't understand this basic text, you ought not vote. :wink: When it was written, it was designed to be so simple that average people could understand it.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

P.S. the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, written by Jefferson and Madison, make it even more clear that the founders intended for the States to have soverignty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_and_Virginia_Resolutions

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Tue 11/03/09 08:04 PM






:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


False. You only have that impression because Federal politicians have been lying to you about it. Read the 10th ammendment.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You are wrong, look it up.


I just quoted the document directly! If you don't understand this basic text, you ought not vote. :wink: When it was written, it was designed to be so simple that average people could understand it.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You need to look this up and read further.

There has been cases to resolve this and make it well understood that the states have no soverignty if they are part of this country.
There are certain laws allowed to the states but that does not equate sovereignty.

I think you may want to consider your voting intelligence before talking of others.

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Tue 11/03/09 08:06 PM


:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)


They know that you are right!---just can't give it the nod!---I will!!!drinker

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Tue 11/03/09 08:09 PM







:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


False. You only have that impression because Federal politicians have been lying to you about it. Read the 10th ammendment.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You are wrong, look it up.


I just quoted the document directly! If you don't understand this basic text, you ought not vote. :wink: When it was written, it was designed to be so simple that average people could understand it.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You need to look this up and read further.

There has been cases to resolve this and make it well understood that the states have no soverignty if they are part of this country.
There are certain laws allowed to the states but that does not equate sovereignty.

I think you may want to consider your voting intelligence before talking of others.



Harsh--and lawless!!sad sad

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Tue 11/03/09 08:12 PM








:smile: Texas has no sovereignty:smile:Its a state.:smile:Not a country:smile:


According to the Anti-Federalist papers, all the states are sovereign. (this is an enlightenment-era philosophical concept, of course-in which the citizens allow their States limited powers in exchange for specifics mentioned in the various States' constitutions. I personally don't believe any government has rights superior to the individual's.)
:smile: The Anti-Federalist papers are wrong.:smile:

:smile: Federal Law trumps State Law :smile:


False. You only have that impression because Federal politicians have been lying to you about it. Read the 10th ammendment.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You are wrong, look it up.


I just quoted the document directly! If you don't understand this basic text, you ought not vote. :wink: When it was written, it was designed to be so simple that average people could understand it.

"Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."


You need to look this up and read further.

There has been cases to resolve this and make it well understood that the states have no soverignty if they are part of this country.
There are certain laws allowed to the states but that does not equate sovereignty.

I think you may want to consider your voting intelligence before talking of others.



Harsh--and lawless!!sad sad


Not, just the truth. Although I guess they say the truth hurts. So maybe...lol

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Tue 11/03/09 09:15 PM
What does it matter which route they use? They will be right back here anyhow. Why not just make North America one continent? bigsmile :banana:

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Tue 11/03/09 09:46 PM
Or maybe even Earth a truly global society bigsmile

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Tue 11/03/09 10:00 PM
Why not start by having us all take the doors off of our homes for anyone to walk through, since we are so global...?