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Edited by
smiless
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You might be surprised to know that alot of Americans live outside the United States scattered throughout the world. It is said well over 6 million. Now I can't find the most recent chart, but this one will give you an idea of how many Americans choose to live somewhere else.
Many do not register, which means that in theory the number of Americans could be higher. These numbers also include children who became American citizens by being born in the United States, but whose parents could be citizens of other countries. Although this list is from 1999, it still gives a good indication of where Americans are. Now this doesn't include military personal, which is another 500,000 Americans. GRAND TOTAL 3,784,693 Country Post # Resident Americans ALBANIA Tirana 646 ALGERIA Algiers 793 ANGOLA Luanda 845 ARGENTINA Buenos Aires 27,600 ARMENIA Yerevan 229 AUSTRALIA Canberra 2,500 Melbourne 38,000 Sydney 55,500 Perth 6,800 AUSTRIA Vienna 14,000 AZERBAIJAN Baku 600 BAHAMAS Nassau 7,050 BAHRAIN Manama 1,800 BANGLADESH Dhaka 1,320 BARBADOS Bridgetown 12,000 BELARUS Minsk 190 BELGIUM Brussels 35,328 BELIZE Belize City 2,700 BENIN Cotonou 250 BERMUDA Hamilton 4,300 BOLIVIA La Paz 3,000 BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA Sarajevo 1600 BOTSWANA Gaborone 800 BRAZIL Brasilia 7,200 Rio de Janeiro 14,460 Sao Paolo 16,480 Recife 2,500 BRUNEI Bandar Seri Begawan 248 BULGARIA Sofia 400 BURKINA FASO Ouagadougou 329 BURMA Rangoon 332 BURUNDI Bujumbura 46 CAMBODIA Phnom Penh 1200 CAMEROON Yaounde 1,161 CANADA Ottawa 24,300 Calgary 105,000 Halifax 40,000 Montreal 65,000 Quebec 3,400 Toronto 250,000 Vancouver 200,000 CAPE VERDE Praia 1,000 CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC Bangui 91 CHAD N'Djamena 162 CHILE Santiago 11,790 CHINA Beijing 10,000 Guangzhou 3,200 Hong Kong 48,220 Shanghai 2,382 Shenyang 555 Chengdu 800 COLOMBIA Bogota 30,680 CONGO (Democratic Republic of) Kinshasa 440 CONGO (Republic of) Brazzaville 233 COSTA RICA San Jose 19,800 COTE D'IVOIRE Abidjan 2,100 CROATIA Zagreb 1,921 CUBA Havana 2,000 CYPRUS Nicosia 4,175 CZECH REPUBLIC Prague 10,000 DENMARK Copenhagen 9,380 DJIBOUTI Djibouti 50 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC Santo Domingo 82,000 ECUADOR Quito 7,950 Guayquil 5,874 EGYPT Cairo 10,892 EL SALVADOR San Salvador 10,000 EQUATORIAL GUINEA Malabo 30 ERITREA Asmara 356 ESTONIA Tallinn 1,000 ETHIOPIA Addis Ababa 2,190 FIJI Suva 5,288 FINLAND Helsinki 4,700 FRANCE Paris 75,000 Marseille 23,700 Strasbourg 3,050 GABON Libreville 298 GAMBIA Banjul 546 GEORGIA Tbilisi 303 GERMANY Bonn 692 Berlin 14,619 Frankfurt Am Main 138,815 Hamburg 11,754 Munich 45,000 GHANA Accra 3,780 GREECE Athens 65,000 Thessaloniki 7,500 GRENADA St. George's 2,000 GUATEMALA Guatemala City 10,000 GUINEA Conakry 660 GUINEA-BISSAU Bissau 25 GUYANA Georgetown 1,500 HAITI Port-Au-Prince 11,000 HONDURAS Tegucigalpa 10,500 HUNGARY Budapest 15,000 ICELAND Reykjavik 1,730 INDIA New Delhi 1,397 Mumbai 9,400 Calcutta 672 Madras 3,900 INDONESIA Jakarta 6,818 Surabaya 2,240 IRELAND Dublin 46,984 ISRAEL Tel Aviv 18,000 JERUSALEM Jerusalem 76,195 ITALY Rome 40,000 Milan 20,000 Naples 72,000 Florence 36,967 JAMAICA Kingston 7,500 JAPAN Tokyo 45,000 Naha, Okinawa 3,415 Osaka-Kobe 13,484 Sapporo 2,756 Fukuoka 5,695 JORDAN Amman 8,000 KAZAKHSTAN Almaty 3,600 KENYA Nairobi 4,237 KOREA Seoul 30,000 KUWAIT Kuwait 7,710 KYRGYZSTAN Bishkek 150 LAOS Vientiane 293 LATVIA Riga 2,084 LEBANON Beirut 10,000 LESOTHO Maseru 190 LIBERIA Monrovia 220 LITHUANIA Vilnius 1,500 LUXEMBOURG Luxembourg 1,527 MACEDONIA Skopje 800 MADAGASCAR Antananarivo 372 MALAWI Lilongwe 863 MALAYSIA Kuala Lumpur 6,639 MALI Bamako 460 MALTA Valletta 700 MARSHALL ISLANDS Majuro 580 MAURITANIA Nouakchott 100 MAURITIUS Port Louis 320 MEXICO Mexico City 441,680 Ciudad Juarez 63,480 Guadalajara 111,100 Monterrey 29,900 Tijuana 196,000 Hermosillo 80,600 Matamoros 60,960 Merida 49,000 Nuevo Laredo 3,580 MICRONESIA Kolonia 760 MOLDOVA Chisinau 125 MONGOLIA Ulaanbaatar 450 MOROCCO Rabat 1,401 MOZAMBIQUE Maputo 641 NAMIBIA Windhoek 350 NEPAL Kathmandu 1,600 NETHERLANDS Amsterdam 23,707 NETHERLANDS ANTILLES Curacao 6,075 NEW ZEALAND Auckland 14,540 NICARAGUA Managua 5,000 NIGER Niamey 335 NIGERIA Lagos 10,000 NORWAY Oslo 15,000 OMAN Muscat 1,444 PAKISTAN Islamabad 506 Karachi 2,100 Lahore 1,250 Peshawar 375 PALAU Koror 300 PANAMA Panama City 19,700 PAPUA NEW GUINEA Port Moresby 2,468 PARAGUAY Asuncion 2,368 PERU Lima 14,143 PHILIPPINES Manila 105,000 POLAND Warsaw 21,300 Krakow 18,000 PORTUGAL Lisbon 1,072 Ponta Delgada 1,100 QATAR Doha 3,775 ROMANIA Bucharest 13,152 RUSSIA Moscow 8,000 St. Petersburg 900 Vladivostok 348 Yekaterinburg 200 RWANDA Kigali 165 SAUDI ARABIA Riyadh 11,506 Dhahran 13,600 Jeddah 10,883 SENEGAL Dakar 791 SERBIA-MONTENEGRO Belgrade 4,514 SIERRA LEONE Freetown 130 SINGAPORE Singapore 15,000 SLOVAK REPUBLIC Bratislava 850 SLOVENIA Ljubljana 650 SOMALIA Mogadishu 12 SOUTH AFRICA Pretoria 8,100 Cape Town 2,647 Durban 720 SPAIN Madrid 75,596 Barcelona 18,917 SRI LANKA Colombo 658 SUDAN Khartoum 1,479 SURINAME Paramaribo 425 SWAZILAND Mbabane 352 SWEDEN Stockholm 18,000 SWITZERLAND Bern 12,113 SYRIA Damascus 3,856 TAIWAN Taipei 38,000 TAJIKISTAN Dushanbe 117 TANZANIA Dar Es Salaam 1,186 THAILAND Bangkok 16,500 Chiang Mai 1,600 TOGO Lome 329 TRINIDAD & TOBAGO Port-of-Spain 3,200 TUNISIA Tunis 700 TURKEY Ankara 2,010 Istanbul 4,800 Adana 266 TURKMENISTAN Ashgabat 107 UGANDA Kampala 1,350 UKRAINE Kiev 3,000 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES Abu Dhabi 7,500 Dubai 9,000 UNITED KINGDOM London, England 200,000 Belfast, Ireland 4,000 Edinburgh, Scotland 20,000 URUGUAY Montevideo 3,500 UZBEKISTAN Tashkent 590 VENEZUELA Caracas 25,000 VIETNAM Hanoi 3,000 WESTERN SAMOA Apia 495 YEMEN Sanaa 15,300 ZAMBIA Lusaka 980 ZIMBABWE Harare 2,125 |
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Oh , it doesnt surprise me. Very cool numbers. I was commenting on Americans in America who dont travel though. Its a very small number of the 300 mill Us residents who have passports.
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I wonder why that is? The world is fascinating to experience. I have spent alot of years traveling to many countries. It helps broaden your mind to understanding different philosophies, cultures, and lifestyles.
Oh well, each to their own. Have a good morning. I am off to get some rest. 
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What is the actual number of illegal immigrants in this country, or is it not possible to get an actual count or approximate count? What will happen to the majority of these illegal immigrants? Will they just get a fine and then become legal? Will they be sent back to their home country paid by the government? or does nothing happen. What do you think should happen? Ok, I see that this thread has somewhat belong serious (without any help be me,lol) so I will give you a serious reply then. Illegals provide NOTHING to this country except for draining us dry. They beat the system at every turn...for ppl that cant read or write or fulling comprehend our society they definitely know how to work the system. They use our medical and run to the E.R bc they know that they can not be refuse...leaving us the American citizen the tab. They use our housing, start gangs, take jobs away, cause the salary of ppl to be lower, have a child here ONLY so that they can not be refused citizenship. They cheat and steal and are no good in gerneal as a whole. If INS could only do their job we wouldn't have the problem that we have today. It got to the point that they are even accepted that the government wants to grant these ppl Amnesty?! |
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What is the actual number of illegal immigrants in this country, or is it not possible to get an actual count or approximate count? What will happen to the majority of these illegal immigrants? Will they just get a fine and then become legal? Will they be sent back to their home country paid by the government? or does nothing happen. What do you think should happen? Ok, I see that this thread has somewhat belong serious (without any help be me,lol) so I will give you a serious reply then. Illegals provide NOTHING to this country except for draining us dry. They beat the system at every turn...for ppl that cant read or write or fulling comprehend our society they definitely know how to work the system. They use our medical and run to the E.R bc they know that they can not be refuse...leaving us the American citizen the tab. They use our housing, start gangs, take jobs away, cause the salary of ppl to be lower, have a child here ONLY so that they can not be refused citizenship. They cheat and steal and are no good in gerneal as a whole. If INS could only do their job we wouldn't have the problem that we have today. It got to the point that they are even accepted that the government wants to grant these ppl Amnesty?! My daughters father is British,,he was denied entry though she was born here. It makes her a citizen but not him. We went through a three year immigration process to get that denial by the way and Im sure that wait will be longer the more work the INS gets sorting through ILLEGAL entries. Apply the laws fairly and equally and dont reward those who break them while punishing those who dont. |
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What is the actual number of illegal immigrants in this country, or is it not possible to get an actual count or approximate count? What will happen to the majority of these illegal immigrants? Will they just get a fine and then become legal? Will they be sent back to their home country paid by the government? or does nothing happen. What do you think should happen? Ok, I see that this thread has somewhat belong serious (without any help be me,lol) so I will give you a serious reply then. Illegals provide NOTHING to this country except for draining us dry. They beat the system at every turn...for ppl that cant read or write or fulling comprehend our society they definitely know how to work the system. They use our medical and run to the E.R bc they know that they can not be refuse...leaving us the American citizen the tab. They use our housing, start gangs, take jobs away, cause the salary of ppl to be lower, have a child here ONLY so that they can not be refused citizenship. They cheat and steal and are no good in gerneal as a whole. If INS could only do their job we wouldn't have the problem that we have today. It got to the point that they are even accepted that the government wants to grant these ppl Amnesty?! My daughters father is British,,he was denied entry though she was born here. It makes her a citizen but not him. We went through a three year immigration process to get that denial by the way and Im sure that wait will be longer the more work the INS gets sorting through ILLEGAL entries. Apply the laws fairly and equally and dont reward those who break them while punishing those who dont. Believe it or not...I kinda went through that same thing with a "ex" girlfriend of mine. At first it was to get her in and become a citizen meanwhile het father was here already. Long story short after paying over thousands of dollars for the fingerprinting and required paperwork they tell "oh she is a citizen already bc she was at the right age before 84'" I was like "WTF?!" So did i get my money bak? LMAO...No they said. The system sucks here I know bc we we're also trying to get her mother here and that's been going on for over 8yrs and counting. So, yes I agree that the laws suck big time for the ppl that want to go about it the right way so in a weird way I could understand doing it illegally. But, only in a weird way ;) |
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all this racist talk
Mexican is not a race. It's a nationality |
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all this racist talk Mexican is not a race. It's a nationality blah..blah Semantics ;) |
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What is the actual number of illegal immigrants in this country, or is it not possible to get an actual count or approximate count? What will happen to the majority of these illegal immigrants? Will they just get a fine and then become legal? Will they be sent back to their home country paid by the government? or does nothing happen. What do you think should happen? Ok, I see that this thread has somewhat belong serious (without any help be me,lol) so I will give you a serious reply then. Illegals provide NOTHING to this country except for draining us dry. They beat the system at every turn...for ppl that cant read or write or fulling comprehend our society they definitely know how to work the system. They use our medical and run to the E.R bc they know that they can not be refuse...leaving us the American citizen the tab. They use our housing, start gangs, take jobs away, cause the salary of ppl to be lower, have a child here ONLY so that they can not be refused citizenship. They cheat and steal and are no good in gerneal as a whole. If INS could only do their job we wouldn't have the problem that we have today. It got to the point that they are even accepted that the government wants to grant these ppl Amnesty?! My daughters father is British,,he was denied entry though she was born here. It makes her a citizen but not him. We went through a three year immigration process to get that denial by the way and Im sure that wait will be longer the more work the INS gets sorting through ILLEGAL entries. Apply the laws fairly and equally and dont reward those who break them while punishing those who dont. Oh by the way..Good Luck with your situation. |
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all this racist talk Mexican is not a race. It's a nationality blah..blah Semantics ;) not at all just a recognition of dishonesty if there were millions of Canadians pouring across the border every year and soomeone said that should stop would you call them racist? |
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all this racist talk Mexican is not a race. It's a nationality blah..blah Semantics ;) not at all just a recognition of dishonesty if there were millions of Canadians pouring across the border every year and soomeone said that should stop would you call them racist? Captain Kirk was a Canadian and broke rules on a regular basis. He also went anywhere in the galaxy he wanted. What does that tell you? |
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Thu 10/29/09 07:50 AM
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another probllem I have with it is all the money they send home
if there are 30 million illegals here and they send $20 a month home then that is a $60 million a month drain on our economy and I suspect it's MUCH higher than that I suspect that Mexico's three top income sources are oil, drugs, and illegals in the US |
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all this racist talk Mexican is not a race. It's a nationality blah..blah Semantics ;) not at all just a recognition of dishonesty if there were millions of Canadians pouring across the border every year and soomeone said that should stop would you call them racist? Those damn Canadians!! Sure why not.. Honestly not sure where the race thing came from. Did I post something suggesting anything of the sort? |
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all this racist talk Mexican is not a race. It's a nationality blah..blah Semantics ;) not at all just a recognition of dishonesty if there were millions of Canadians pouring across the border every year and soomeone said that should stop would you call them racist? Those damn Canadians!! Sure why not.. Honestly not sure where the race thing came from. Did I post something suggesting anything of the sort? nahhh but someone here did. That is the knee jerk accusation that if you're for controlling immigration in this country that you must be racist it's just a dishonest way of characterizing the argument and turning it into something else |
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I live in a place with lots and lots of Mexican immigrants. I don't know who is legal and who isn't, but I do know that I really don't fit in here. It's my own fault for not going to their country and learning Spanish... I'm not sure what to think. I moved down here from Northern California and it isn't that bad there. I want to be open-minded but there's something about this community that bothers me. Most of the people that live here do not speak English and have no interest in our culture. My father came from another country, learned English, worked hard to get his citizenship and is proud to be an American. Most of the immigrants here seem to be opportunists. I'm moving to a neighboring city. You know I wonder when it became the thing to do to forget your heritage and convert to "American". I would have loved to have had more of my heritage and the languages of my ancestors. I would speak Native American (Cherokee), German, Irish (I don't think it is called that but I don't know what it is called) Sorry for the late reply but I just noticed this. My father did not forget his heritage, or culture. He embraced a new one and added to it. He contributed four exotic-looking, half-Persian children who think, and act, slightly different than the average Joe. The difference between him and most of the people who enter this country illegally is loyalty. My father came here to be American, not to acquire money. He learned English and knows our history. He calls this country his own and would die for it. Let's just open our borders to all third-world nations. Most of South America and Africa would like to be here too you know. And people from the Post-Soviet Union and certain other Slavic regions want in too! They respect the U.S. too much to do to our nation what they did to their own. We can use our tax dollars to ship them all over and support them once they get here, we have plenty of money. |
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I say they need to be sent back first its illegal second who would make all my thousands of purses i love to buy?
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What is the actual number of illegal immigrants in this country, or is it not possible to get an actual count or approximate count? What will happen to the majority of these illegal immigrants? Will they just get a fine and then become legal? Will they be sent back to their home country paid by the government? or does nothing happen. What do you think should happen? Ok, I see that this thread has somewhat belong serious (without any help be me,lol) so I will give you a serious reply then. Illegals provide NOTHING to this country except for draining us dry. They beat the system at every turn...for ppl that cant read or write or fulling comprehend our society they definitely know how to work the system. They use our medical and run to the E.R bc they know that they can not be refuse...leaving us the American citizen the tab. They use our housing, start gangs, take jobs away, cause the salary of ppl to be lower, have a child here ONLY so that they can not be refused citizenship. They cheat and steal and are no good in gerneal as a whole. If INS could only do their job we wouldn't have the problem that we have today. It got to the point that they are even accepted that the government wants to grant these ppl Amnesty?! That was a prejudice assessment of the illegals. They are not all criminals. Americans have just as many if not more citizen criminals than they have. Making them evil is the first step in bigotry and prejudice, you know. |
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I thought the Bush Administration was giving fines to illegal immigrants who report themselves in. Afterwords they become legal residents and can continue to work. In otherwords, those who have been living here illegally and working will not get deported. Is this true or is that only for certain states?
Was this a rumor? I remember reading this somewhere. 
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I thought the Bush Administration was giving fines to illegal immigrants who report themselves in. Afterwords they become legal residents and can continue to work. In otherwords, those who have been living here illegally and working will not get deported. Is this true or is that only for certain states? Was this a rumor? I remember reading this somewhere.
It was Bush's idea or an idea he supported to end the illegal problem. It was never even voted on if my memory serves me right. |
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I thought the Bush Administration was giving fines to illegal immigrants who report themselves in. Afterwords they become legal residents and can continue to work. In otherwords, those who have been living here illegally and working will not get deported. Is this true or is that only for certain states? Was this a rumor? I remember reading this somewhere.
It was Bush's idea or an idea he supported to end the illegal problem. It was never even voted on if my memory serves me right. I wonder why the hold up. Could it be that the Corporations don't want this because then they have costs to cover? Perhaps the idea isn't good or something. Whatever the reason is, let us see what Obama is going to do in his presidency. |
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