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Topic: 14 Americans died in Afghanistan .
tohyup's photo
Mon 10/26/09 09:01 AM
Right now in the news; 14 Americans died in shoppers crash in Afghanistan . The war in Afghanistan is a waste of lives and a waste of money . While G.W. Bush is making tons of money from giving speeches to the politically blind, dumb and deaf, Americans are dying in both Iraq and Afghanistan for his ill deceived policies of tyranny, deception and imperialism pushed and instigated by the neo cons who keep seeking one war after another under false pretexts .
If you really care about the troops then bring them home now .

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Mon 10/26/09 09:12 AM
Edited by CircuitRider on Mon 10/26/09 09:13 AM

Right now in the news; 14 Americans died in shoppers crash in Afghanistan . The war in Afghanistan is a waste of lives and a waste of money . While G.W. Bush is making tons of money from giving speeches to the politically blind, dumb and deaf, Americans are dying in both Iraq and Afghanistan for his ill deceived policies of tyranny, deception and imperialism pushed and instigated by the neo cons who keep seeking one war after another under false pretexts .
If you really care about the troops then bring them home now .



:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I agree...



TJN's photo
Mon 10/26/09 09:18 AM
YES IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!

Wait Obama has had 9 months to get troops out, yet they are still there.

Maybe we should just get rid of the military all together. There are accidents every years on military bases in our country that kill soldiers!

It was there March 23, 1994, that 24 Fort Bragg, N.C., Soldiers were killed, more than 100 were injured and countless other troops’ lives were changed in what was then the second worst aircraft incident in Air Force history, Air Force officials said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123007282

I lost more friends in those few moments than I have in either of the wars.

You gonna blame Bush for that one to? Oh wait he wasn't in office then. Must be Clinton's fault!

tohyup's photo
Mon 10/26/09 01:24 PM

YES IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!

Wait Obama has had 9 months to get troops out, yet they are still there.

Maybe we should just get rid of the military all together. There are accidents every years on military bases in our country that kill soldiers!

It was there March 23, 1994, that 24 Fort Bragg, N.C., Soldiers were killed, more than 100 were injured and countless other troops’ lives were changed in what was then the second worst aircraft incident in Air Force history, Air Force officials said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123007282

I lost more friends in those few moments than I have in either of the wars.

You gonna blame Bush for that one to? Oh wait he wasn't in office then. Must be Clinton's fault!

Your debate is just another blind, dumb and deaf politically mind speaking . If you support the troops bring them alive and NOT in coffins . Also the world is perplexed about the US two wars in Iraq and Afghanista. G.W. Bush is living like a king in the US while the troops are dying for his crap overseas . Surely they are people too with friends, loved ones and lives .

tohyup's photo
Mon 10/26/09 01:24 PM
Edited by tohyup on Mon 10/26/09 01:25 PM
Sorry double post folks .

TJN's photo
Mon 10/26/09 01:42 PM


YES IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!

Wait Obama has had 9 months to get troops out, yet they are still there.

Maybe we should just get rid of the military all together. There are accidents every years on military bases in our country that kill soldiers!

It was there March 23, 1994, that 24 Fort Bragg, N.C., Soldiers were killed, more than 100 were injured and countless other troops’ lives were changed in what was then the second worst aircraft incident in Air Force history, Air Force officials said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123007282

I lost more friends in those few moments than I have in either of the wars.

You gonna blame Bush for that one to? Oh wait he wasn't in office then. Must be Clinton's fault!

Your debate is just another blind, dumb and deaf politically mind speaking . If you support the troops bring them alive and NOT in coffins . Also the world is perplexed about the US two wars in Iraq and Afghanista. G.W. Bush is living like a king in the US while the troops are dying for his crap overseas . Surely they are people too with friends, loved ones and lives .

I wasn't debating anything!
It was an accident that happened over there.
I was simply stateing that they happen in the states also.
You can't blame Bush for an accident that happened no matter where it happens!

And like I said Obama has the power to bring them home, yet he is stalling on a decision of what to do over there!

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Mon 10/26/09 01:52 PM



YES IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!

Wait Obama has had 9 months to get troops out, yet they are still there.

Maybe we should just get rid of the military all together. There are accidents every years on military bases in our country that kill soldiers!

It was there March 23, 1994, that 24 Fort Bragg, N.C., Soldiers were killed, more than 100 were injured and countless other troops’ lives were changed in what was then the second worst aircraft incident in Air Force history, Air Force officials said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123007282

I lost more friends in those few moments than I have in either of the wars.

You gonna blame Bush for that one to? Oh wait he wasn't in office then. Must be Clinton's fault!

Your debate is just another blind, dumb and deaf politically mind speaking . If you support the troops bring them alive and NOT in coffins . Also the world is perplexed about the US two wars in Iraq and Afghanista. G.W. Bush is living like a king in the US while the troops are dying for his crap overseas . Surely they are people too with friends, loved ones and lives .

I wasn't debating anything!
It was an accident that happened over there.
I was simply stateing that they happen in the states also.
You can't blame Bush for an accident that happened no matter where it happens!

And like I said Obama has the power to bring them home, yet he is stalling on a decision of what to do over there!


Exactly, he himself stated he would bring the troops home. Whether one agrees with the war or not, obama has failed to hold up to his word. If some of you wanna b**ch about them being there then by golly get on your president's arse and demand he do something.

Sounds like the one calling you blind, dumb and deaf politically obviously doesn't have the concept to believe accidents happen. Who is to say that that helicopter wouldn't have crashed here, which they do. Gonna blame that on bush too? Sheesh Hell let's blame everything on bush right? frustrated

artman48's photo
Mon 10/26/09 01:54 PM
As an old Vietnam Vet I say you are right.--- Obama does what he's told as well! He can't "fix" anything--- Maybe its time to get rid of all of them and start over!!--- After all, we are the sheeple!:cry: :cry:

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Mon 10/26/09 02:02 PM

Right now in the news; 14 Americans died in shoppers crash in Afghanistan . The war in Afghanistan is a waste of lives and a waste of money . While G.W. Bush is making tons of money from giving speeches to the politically blind, dumb and deaf, Americans are dying in both Iraq and Afghanistan for his ill deceived policies of tyranny, deception and imperialism pushed and instigated by the neo cons who keep seeking one war after another under false pretexts .
If you really care about the troops then bring them home now .


Indeed, Afghanistan is the Graveyard of Empires.

look4you's photo
Mon 10/26/09 03:48 PM

Right now in the news; 14 Americans died in shoppers crash in Afghanistan . The war in Afghanistan is a waste of lives and a waste of money . While G.W. Bush is making tons of money from giving speeches to the politically blind, dumb and deaf, Americans are dying in both Iraq and Afghanistan for his ill deceived policies of tyranny, deception and imperialism pushed and instigated by the neo cons who keep seeking one war after another under false pretexts .
If you really care about the troops then bring them home now .


OR...
You can say that troops are dying bc OBAMA is too political and wants to wait to make his decision after the nov. elections. Also bc he has no back bone to bring in the extra troops. Everyday that this idiot waits another brother,father,friend dies bc of obama.

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Mon 10/26/09 03:50 PM




YES IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!

Wait Obama has had 9 months to get troops out, yet they are still there.

Maybe we should just get rid of the military all together. There are accidents every years on military bases in our country that kill soldiers!

It was there March 23, 1994, that 24 Fort Bragg, N.C., Soldiers were killed, more than 100 were injured and countless other troops’ lives were changed in what was then the second worst aircraft incident in Air Force history, Air Force officials said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123007282

I lost more friends in those few moments than I have in either of the wars.

You gonna blame Bush for that one to? Oh wait he wasn't in office then. Must be Clinton's fault!

Your debate is just another blind, dumb and deaf politically mind speaking . If you support the troops bring them alive and NOT in coffins . Also the world is perplexed about the US two wars in Iraq and Afghanista. G.W. Bush is living like a king in the US while the troops are dying for his crap overseas . Surely they are people too with friends, loved ones and lives .

I wasn't debating anything!
It was an accident that happened over there.
I was simply stateing that they happen in the states also.
You can't blame Bush for an accident that happened no matter where it happens!

And like I said Obama has the power to bring them home, yet he is stalling on a decision of what to do over there!


Exactly, he himself stated he would bring the troops home. Whether one agrees with the war or not, obama has failed to hold up to his word. If some of you wanna b**ch about them being there then by golly get on your president's arse and demand he do something.

Sounds like the one calling you blind, dumb and deaf politically obviously doesn't have the concept to believe accidents happen. Who is to say that that helicopter wouldn't have crashed here, which they do. Gonna blame that on bush too? Sheesh Hell let's blame everything on bush right? frustrated


I think that the Dems and obama blames everything on Bush already...lol

Atlantis75's photo
Mon 10/26/09 04:28 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Mon 10/26/09 04:31 PM
Leave them there - life or death.
Bring them home - homelessness, unemployed, injured, poverty.


Maybe Obama is afraid, that if he brings back the troops, he's gonna face massive amount of military veterans this time, who got no jobs, no healthcare, not much to look forward to.

They would be labeled as "extremists", just like currently the veterans at home who as served somewhere and somehow dissatisfied often get this label. Of course, you gotta think of people who are experts in one thing, and that is war armed uprising.

Can you imagine that?

look4you's photo
Mon 10/26/09 04:41 PM

Leave them there - life or death.
Bring them home - homelessness, unemployed, injured, poverty.


Maybe Obama is afraid, that if he brings back the troops, he's gonna face massive amount of military veterans this time, who got no jobs, no healthcare, not much to look forward to.

They would be labeled as "extremists", just like currently the veterans at home who as served somewhere and somehow dissatisfied often get this label. Of course, you gotta think of people who are experts in one thing, and that is war armed uprising.

Can you imagine that?


Good Post!
But, I honestly think that it has more to do with politics than anything else unfortunately

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Mon 10/26/09 04:44 PM





YES IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!

Wait Obama has had 9 months to get troops out, yet they are still there.

Maybe we should just get rid of the military all together. There are accidents every years on military bases in our country that kill soldiers!

It was there March 23, 1994, that 24 Fort Bragg, N.C., Soldiers were killed, more than 100 were injured and countless other troops’ lives were changed in what was then the second worst aircraft incident in Air Force history, Air Force officials said.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?storyID=123007282

I lost more friends in those few moments than I have in either of the wars.

You gonna blame Bush for that one to? Oh wait he wasn't in office then. Must be Clinton's fault!

Your debate is just another blind, dumb and deaf politically mind speaking . If you support the troops bring them alive and NOT in coffins . Also the world is perplexed about the US two wars in Iraq and Afghanista. G.W. Bush is living like a king in the US while the troops are dying for his crap overseas . Surely they are people too with friends, loved ones and lives .

I wasn't debating anything!
It was an accident that happened over there.
I was simply stateing that they happen in the states also.
You can't blame Bush for an accident that happened no matter where it happens!

And like I said Obama has the power to bring them home, yet he is stalling on a decision of what to do over there!


Exactly, he himself stated he would bring the troops home. Whether one agrees with the war or not, obama has failed to hold up to his word. If some of you wanna b**ch about them being there then by golly get on your president's arse and demand he do something.

Sounds like the one calling you blind, dumb and deaf politically obviously doesn't have the concept to believe accidents happen. Who is to say that that helicopter wouldn't have crashed here, which they do. Gonna blame that on bush too? Sheesh Hell let's blame everything on bush right? frustrated


I think that the Dems and obama blames everything on Bush already...lol

From what I hear and read you're right. If only they knewlaugh

Atlantis75's photo
Mon 10/26/09 04:47 PM


Leave them there - life or death.
Bring them home - homelessness, unemployed, injured, poverty.


Maybe Obama is afraid, that if he brings back the troops, he's gonna face massive amount of military veterans this time, who got no jobs, no healthcare, not much to look forward to.

They would be labeled as "extremists", just like currently the veterans at home who as served somewhere and somehow dissatisfied often get this label. Of course, you gotta think of people who are experts in one thing, and that is war armed uprising.

Can you imagine that?


Good Post!
But, I honestly think that it has more to do with politics than anything else unfortunately


Yeah I know, but still.
Those guys will not get a job easily. After all those years, and then come home and they wouldn't even recognize USA.

Imagine if you would come home after a couple of years, and you find your family or g/f thrown out of the house, because the bank foreclosed on them..with no job or living in a dirty little apartment from paystubs or unemployed checks.
That could be devastating for someone who might also be suffering a post war syndrome.

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Mon 10/26/09 04:52 PM
Edited by tohyup on Mon 10/26/09 04:53 PM





Yeah I know, but still.
Those guys will not get a job easily. After all those years, and then come home and they wouldn't even recognize USA.

Imagine if you would come home after a couple of years, and you find your family or g/f thrown out of the house, because the bank foreclosed on them..with no job or living in a dirty little apartment from paystubs or unemployed checks.
That could be devastating for someone who might also be suffering a post war syndrome.


Those who sent the troops to die overseas like G.W. Bush. Donald Rumesfeld, Paul wolfowitz, Dick Cheney......and their neo cons are living like kings in the US . What a travesty ! . When are people starting to question those who order them to die for NOTHING while they live as kings ?!!!.

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Mon 10/26/09 05:29 PM
yep, it's all bush's fault! DOYslaphead

living like kings, haha go to england and see how a king lives, then come back and say that. Every ex president lives on the high horse, ahem the clintons. Do they deserve it? hell no, just like you don't think bush deserves it. get over it folks, it is what it is.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 10/26/09 05:48 PM
All this blame back and forth does no good at all....we are all at fault.
We are a violent nation..we constantly find another nation to call the enemy, we are always looking for a reason to fight. It is obvious in these threads everyday..we want to kill people, castrate child molesters, torture those who do bad, have public hanging, everyone points the finger at everyone else.
What have we turned in to..a nation of blood thirsty revenge seekers..an eye for an eye mentality.. there will always be someone to hate and kill because we seek them.

"Once you call a man an enemy..you may as well dig two graves."

The Dalia Lama

TJN's photo
Mon 10/26/09 05:48 PM






Yeah I know, but still.
Those guys will not get a job easily. After all those years, and then come home and they wouldn't even recognize USA.

Imagine if you would come home after a couple of years, and you find your family or g/f thrown out of the house, because the bank foreclosed on them..with no job or living in a dirty little apartment from paystubs or unemployed checks.
That could be devastating for someone who might also be suffering a post war syndrome.


Those who sent the troops to die overseas like G.W. Bush. Donald Rumesfeld, Paul wolfowitz, Dick Cheney......and their neo cons are living like kings in the US . What a travesty ! . When are people starting to question those who order them to die for NOTHING while they live as kings ?!!!.

frustrated What does that have to do with the OP?
It was an accident that caused the deaths! Accidents happen on posts in the US, like I posted earlier and posted a link to the second worst Airforce accident ever.

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Mon 10/26/09 05:49 PM
looks like i doged a bullet, cause i was suppose to be deployed this december and no christmas!


thank goodness the messed my back up:banana:

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