Topic: Seriously, 2012 -- whats it all about?
bedlum1's photo
Sat 10/24/09 07:19 PM




in dec 2012 not only does the earth complete the wobble it has in irs axis. but the earth is also in direct line with the center of our universe..this creates many speculations on the affect it will have on the magnetic poles,weather,and climate


What universe are you talking about? What is the center of our universe?
our universe the milky way


uh. ahem. the milky way is but one of billions of galaxies that exist in the universe. the milky way is our galaxy and is not "our universe".

as for 2012, it's an election year as was y2k and 1984. nothing more unless you buy into the nonsence of the mayans, computer take overs and george orwell's silly big brother scare.
semantics........its all fact,the wobble completion, & the alignment, are documented and are being observed as we speak...these are just speculation,theories on what the posible affects might be

bedlum1's photo
Sat 10/24/09 07:22 PM
go on line and look up ...the center of our universe....nasa has very good graphs &pics plus explainations about the whole thing..the wobble cycle, and alignments..pretty interesting

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 10/24/09 07:30 PM

go to nasa site
www.allnewuniverse.com/center-of-our-universe.html
spock As near as I can tell,bedlum,that is not an official NASA site.spockThey seem to be citing NASA on that site.smile2And the claims being made on that site seem to be highly speculative,and possibly based on a misinterpretation of datasmile2In a metaphorical sense the Earth is the center of OUR universe.smile2 It is the center of our perpective of space.smile2 However,I am not so sure about the claim of the Earth being the literal center of the universesmile2

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Sat 10/24/09 07:30 PM
Edited by jrbogie on Sat 10/24/09 07:36 PM





in dec 2012 not only does the earth complete the wobble it has in irs axis. but the earth is also in direct line with the center of our universe..this creates many speculations on the affect it will have on the magnetic poles,weather,and climate


What universe are you talking about? What is the center of our universe?
our universe the milky way


uh. ahem. the milky way is but one of billions of galaxies that exist in the universe. the milky way is our galaxy and is not "our universe".

as for 2012, it's an election year as was y2k and 1984. nothing more unless you buy into the nonsence of the mayans, computer take overs and george orwell's silly big brother scare.
semantics........its all fact,the wobble completion, & the alignment, are documented and are being observed as we speak...these are just speculation,theories on what the posible affects might be



semantics? galaxy and universe are synonymous?

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Sat 10/24/09 07:49 PM
Edited by firedude1971 on Sat 10/24/09 07:52 PM
The earths wobble stopped in January of 2006 yet we're still here...

The basic concept is this:

The sun rotates at a slight angle, just like earth does.
As it wobbles it tilts the sleeves, causing them to clash with each other and disrupt the surface which leads to sun spots and solar flares. The last solar cycle was in 2001. Each solar cycle has a period when the flares are the strongest which usually happens near the solar equator, called the solar maximum. We are due to have one on or around December 21, 2012 but because the earth has stopped, a very small minority has developed the theory that we are going to see more dramatic climate changes, earthquakes, and volcanoes erupting.

The Mayan calendar stops in 2012 but the Mayan prophecy doesn't say that the world as it is known will come to an end, it does predict that we will experience major natural events much like the current theory regarding the solar maximum. To offer a "doomsday", prediction based on the potentially increased possibility that we will experience increased environmental unrest based on the earth being aligned with the center of the universe is ludicrous considering that every particle of matter is aligned with the center of the universe and in a constant state of expansion.

It is true that there is research being conducted because of the completion of the earths wobble but the research is purely to calculate the probability and severity of the impact to the environment. In a nutshell, they want to figure out IF the lack of wobble will make any difference or if it will remain relatively the same.

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Sat 10/24/09 11:11 PM
one concept they recently came up with because of imagine tech , is that the center of our galaxy is a massive black hole.there are other sites to look on. that one was just the first one i wrote down..you can find some very good info an actual mapping/imagine of our galaxy and the positions of our earth in conjunction with it

bedlum1's photo
Sat 10/24/09 11:20 PM
another theory is that according to the ancient writtings the gods will return to the earth...the gods being the aliens that taught humans technology and helped improve their minds

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Sun 10/25/09 01:06 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/25/09 01:07 AM



in dec 2012 not only does the earth complete the wobble it has in irs axis. but the earth is also in direct line with the center of our universe..this creates many speculations on the affect it will have on the magnetic poles,weather,and climate


What universe are you talking about? What is the center of our universe?
our universe the milky way



(Well a galaxy is not a universe, but..) The "direct line" is the galactic equator which is at the edge of the galaxy. The equator is the 'path' where the galaxy spins.

Our sun will reach the galactic equator on December 21, 2012 at 11:11 a.m world time. The earth goes around the sun. I don't know where the earth will be on that date. It would be possible that the earth could cross the equator before the sun or afterwards since we move around the sun.

Our solar system is revolving at an angle different from the Milky way galaxy because it is not part of this galaxy, --or at least it didn't use t be. It was captured in a collision with a different galaxy many billions of years ago.

So as far as the DNA and life evolving in this solar system is concerned, we are the "aliens." Most of the galaxy inhabitants are probably not "humans," although they are humanoids.







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Sun 10/25/09 04:41 AM
in dec 2012 not only does the earth complete the wobble it has in irs axis. but the earth is also in direct line with the center of our universe..this creates many speculations on the affect it will have on the magnetic poles,weather,and climate
What universe are you talking about? What is the center of our universe?
our universe the milky way
(Well a galaxy is not a universe, but..) The "direct line" is the galactic equator which is at the edge of the galaxy. The equator is the 'path' where the galaxy spins.

Our sun will reach the galactic equator on December 21, 2012 at 11:11 a.m world time.
From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon)

The alignment in question is not exclusive to 2012 but takes place over a 36-year period, corresponding to the diameter of the Sun, with the most precise convergence having already occurred in 1998.[33]

[33] ^ Meeus, Jean (1997). "Ecliptic and galactic equator". Mathematical Astronomy Morsels. Richmod, Va: Willmann-Bell. pp. 301-303. ISBN 9780943396514. OCLC 36126686.

Ruth34611's photo
Sun 10/25/09 06:25 AM
I don't want to survive anything that can't be dealt with by having a weeks worth of food and water in my house and a good emergency kit.

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Sun 10/25/09 08:59 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 10/25/09 08:59 AM

in dec 2012 not only does the earth complete the wobble it has in irs axis. but the earth is also in direct line with the center of our universe..this creates many speculations on the affect it will have on the magnetic poles,weather,and climate
What universe are you talking about? What is the center of our universe?
our universe the milky way
(Well a galaxy is not a universe, but..) The "direct line" is the galactic equator which is at the edge of the galaxy. The equator is the 'path' where the galaxy spins.

Our sun will reach the galactic equator on December 21, 2012 at 11:11 a.m world time.
From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon)

The alignment in question is not exclusive to 2012 but takes place over a 36-year period, corresponding to the diameter of the Sun, with the most precise convergence having already occurred in 1998.[33]

[33] ^ Meeus, Jean (1997). "Ecliptic and galactic equator". Mathematical Astronomy Morsels. Richmod, Va: Willmann-Bell. pp. 301-303. ISBN 9780943396514. OCLC 36126686.



Yes it will take a while to get through it ... but I think the exact center is reached on that date.

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Sun 10/25/09 09:33 AM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Sun 10/25/09 09:34 AM
I have read some speculation that 2012 is the year that the poles will flip (as has happened several times in our past)

the poles flipping in and of itself isnt a big deal at all. South will become north and north will become south. Might screw up GPS and stuff, and then again might not

but if it did happen it would disrupt the magnetic field that protects us from solar radiation for a few days or weeks. We might all get really bad sunburns

but that is just speculation that the pole flip might happen

I kinda doubt it myself

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 10/25/09 01:37 PM

another theory is that according to the ancient writtings the gods will return to the earth...the gods being the aliens that taught humans technology and helped improve their minds
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Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 10/25/09 02:56 PM
I do believe there are changing coming..I don't buy into the doomsday scenario however...I think it is an important shift, and maybe uncomfortable for some, not the end, possibly a beginning. jmo

jrbogie's photo
Sun 10/25/09 03:08 PM

I have read some speculation that 2012 is the year that the poles will flip (as has happened several times in our past)

the poles flipping in and of itself isnt a big deal at all. South will become north and north will become south. Might screw up GPS and stuff, and then again might not

but if it did happen it would disrupt the magnetic field that protects us from solar radiation for a few days or weeks. We might all get really bad sunburns

but that is just speculation that the pole flip might happen

I kinda doubt it myself


it was all started by the aussies who are fed up with being "down under".

RoamingOrator's photo
Sun 10/25/09 03:24 PM

I have read some speculation that 2012 is the year that the poles will flip (as has happened several times in our past)

the poles flipping in and of itself isnt a big deal at all. South will become north and north will become south. Might screw up GPS and stuff, and then again might not

but if it did happen it would disrupt the magnetic field that protects us from solar radiation for a few days or weeks. We might all get really bad sunburns

but that is just speculation that the pole flip might happen

I kinda doubt it myself


Gotcha, add sun screen to my 2012 kit, right beside the ammo!!laugh

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Sun 10/25/09 03:25 PM



it was all started by the aussies who are fed up with being "down under".


laugh

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Mon 10/26/09 05:12 PM

I have read some speculation that 2012 is the year that the poles will flip (as has happened several times in our past)

the poles flipping in and of itself isnt a big deal at all. South will become north and north will become south. Might screw up GPS and stuff, and then again might not

but if it did happen it would disrupt the magnetic field that protects us from solar radiation for a few days or weeks. We might all get really bad sunburns

but that is just speculation that the pole flip might happen

I kinda doubt it myself


I read that previous pole flippings are believed to have been gradual, and to have taken thousands of years to complete. I don't have a reliable source, I could be wrong, but I wouldn't put it past the "2012" enthusiasts to simply ignore this inconvenient notion.

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Mon 10/26/09 07:32 PM


I have read some speculation that 2012 is the year that the poles will flip (as has happened several times in our past)

the poles flipping in and of itself isnt a big deal at all. South will become north and north will become south. Might screw up GPS and stuff, and then again might not

but if it did happen it would disrupt the magnetic field that protects us from solar radiation for a few days or weeks. We might all get really bad sunburns

but that is just speculation that the pole flip might happen

I kinda doubt it myself


I read that previous pole flippings are believed to have been gradual, and to have taken thousands of years to complete. I don't have a reliable source, I could be wrong, but I wouldn't put it past the "2012" enthusiasts to simply ignore this inconvenient notion.


I agree. I think the magnetic pole reversal is a gradual thing. I think I read where it has moved a bit already. I don't really understand the pole reversal thing anyway.



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Mon 10/26/09 07:58 PM
If anyone is interested...

Read the Writing's Of Kryon, authored by Lee Carroll.