Topic: Obama opposition NOT due to race, says Carville report
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Sat 10/24/09 12:22 AM
DemocracyCorps, a polling agency founded by James Carville - yes, THAT James Carville - and Stanley Greenberg, issued a report earlier this week that stated, among many things, that the Republican opposition to Obama is not based on racism. Here is the relevant portion of the report, taken from their website:


Instead of focusing on these intense ideological divisions, the press and elites continue to look for a racial element that drives these voters’ beliefs – but they need to get over it. Conducted on the heels of Joe Wilson’s incendiary comments at the president’s joint session address, we gave these groups of older, white Republican base voters in Georgia full opportunity to bring race into their discussion – but it did not ever become a central element, and indeed, was almost beside the point.



Now, I don't generally trust James Carville (or any pollster or political strategist, for that matter) as far as I could throw him, and I think some of the other conclusions he draws are a bit overstated. However, it was a surprise to find this on his site, and I thought it was worth sharing. There are some people on this site who have their minds made up that race is the primary motivator behind ANY criticism of Obama. It's a real shame for them that it just isn't true.

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Sat 10/24/09 12:40 AM
Edited by firedude1971 on Sat 10/24/09 12:42 AM
I think race is behind the criticisms. Not against Obama for being (black), but because of the appearance that most of his supporters are only supporting him because he's a "black man".

Personally I think Obama is in over his head and would have done much better if he took office in about 8 years giving him a little more time to put some more international experience under his belt.

On the grand scale of things I think America made the best choice given their options which is truly a shame that he was their best option...I guess over the past 8 years it has become obvious that the days of having strong leadership are over and nations will be forced to pick "the best of the worst".

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Sat 10/24/09 01:06 AM
Carville is correct, most of us that didn't vote for obama had nothing to do with race. To say we didn't vote for him because of race is absolutely ridiculous.

Firdude if feel you are so right. Many people did vote for obama because he is black. Some of them had no clue what he stood for or even who prominent politicians were.

My nephew had the "in love with obama" disease, he was with his grandparents where he heard only one side from them and the liberal media. With an opposing view he finally heard, he weighed what he believes in to what obama believes in. He chose to not vote for obama. Anyone want to call him and many others like him a racist?

Pretty sad when race is thrown in when the opposing voice speaks. Is that not racist?

It is what it is, it's not his race it's his politics. slaphead

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Sat 10/24/09 01:09 AM
There are certainly enough political pundits and bigots for people to oppose him for both reasons. A statement that his opposition isnt racist is too blanket a statement. OF course SOME of it is bound to be. A statement that his opposition is racist is also too vague because there are also people who just disagree with him on political grounds.

Hopefully people dont need a study to realize that.

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Sat 10/24/09 03:47 AM
It is possible some people oppose him due to race. Also, some in his own political party did not vote for Obama. I lived in a majority Democrat county and McCain received more votes than Obama during the general election. Statistics show 72.3% are registered Democrat and 22.6% are registered Republican in that county. So you probably do have people who did not vote for him because of race.

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/IMAGES/seal.png


However, I think most people opposed Obama because they do not agree with his politics. Some people thought he did not have enough experience and preferred Hillary Clinton.