I care about others.

I care about the people who obey our laws. I care about the people who put in a hard days work in a thankless job.

I DON'T care about those that flaunt the laws of this country like they don't pertain to them just because some Liberal doesn't think they should.

That's my whole point, Dragoness.

The conversation might be there, but I highly doubt that anyone would be worried about offending them.

Or would you want to extend ' basic human rights ' to non humans as well? lol

How about a Liberal or Conservative that doesn't think they should?
Just because a person is a Liberal doesn't mean that they flaunt the laws of the country like they don't pertain to them.

I think its sad people are opposing this one decision by ONE franchise which sells costumes. WE are capitalistic and there are any number of other franchises to shop at. Would anyone bat an eye if the costumes were pulled because they werent turning a profit? I doubt it. But somehow, make the claim that someone cared about being offensive and people go up in arms( so to speak),, I just dont get where the priorities are in this culture.

Another odd note, some of the people opposing this decision in this thread stood by a jop's decision to not marry a couple because they were interracial in another post. I think the current culture is one of the most inconsistent in the western world.

Ya know what?? I want my neighbors to care too.

I want them to care about the fact that there are MILLIONS of people in this country who have broken the law.

I want them to care about the millions of families in this country that live below the poverty line.

I want them to care about the millions of families in this country who don't know where their next meal is going to come from.

I want them to care about the thousands upon thousands of homeless folks.

I want them to care about the millions of people who are out of work and can't find another job because a lot of jobs are being taken up by illegal aliens and the crooked employers who hire them.

Noone said we shouldnt care about those things too.

Yep. I'll admit that I should have said Conservatives are in there too.

After all...John McCain wanted to pass an amnesty deal for the illegals as well.

My apologies ( on this point ) to the Liberals among us.

I would be worried about offending them and I would want them to be granted the same "human" consideration we give ourselves.

Nope. You didn't.

But how many threads do we see about those concerns??

As opposed to how many we see that have arguments about how great/terrible Obama is?

Sure. Everyone SHOULD care about those things.

But as I look around here and some other places....you would have a very hard time convincing me that many actually DO.

Is it just me...

Or..if there actually ARE aliens observing us...they are sitting up there on their mothership wondering what in the hell is wrong with people.

I understand completely. Perhaps someone could suggest a thread to address humanitarian type issues such as those you have presented?

Considering that the illegality of the aliens in this country is like the last consideration in the human factor of people trying to find a way to live and survive. That matter is only important to those who can dismiss them as not human.


Second, the jobs lost for Americans by illegals is minimal. Figure they work for way less than any American will, employers do not have to get insurance for illegals, etc...so if you replace one American for ten or twenty illegals, it doesn't do much for our jobless problem.

And all other things on the list are commendable.

Yup.

All the killing and anger and hate has to send them into a quandry.

I would start one myself.

But ya know what....it would slowly die away to nothing within a couple of weeks. Especially if we asked people to actually try to come up with solutions.

It wouldn't be NEARLY as interesting as name calling and pandering to one side or the other.

It would be a waste of time and effort. I have seen it too many times around here.

Anything that requires serious thought dies away rather quickly.

First...I want you to find an American who's been out of work for quite a while who " won't do " any job to make sure his family has food and shelter. For whatever it is someone is willing to pay them to do it.

You find me one of those people, and I'll show you a heartless piece of crap who should have NEVER had a family in the first place.

Second...WHY, exactly, should the fact that they are here illegally be " the last consideration "?? There are a lot of people looking for work in this country who are law abiding citizens. Why should THEY not be given the " basic human right " of an opportunity to feed their family??

There are jobs all over the place. People will not do fast food jobs or retail jobs so how do think they will do jobs that pay less than minimum wage like the illegals work for with no insurance. Come on. Americans are arrogant and spoiled.

The illegals are an excellent slave force for the employers, low wages, no health insurane, no workmans comp insurance, etc.. It doesn't get any better than that.

As for the humanitarian issue. Illegals are humans in search of a better life and sadly life cannot wait sometimes for an application to pass the INS or whatever they are called now. People sometimes need something right now, not later. Which causes waters to get tested. I will not hold it against them that they want a better life and found a way to it here.

The illegality of it can be resolved by a simple bill in the legislature and no more illegality. It is not like they are real criminals anyway.

I don't know where YOU live...but where I reside there aren't jobs " all over the place ".

15% unemployment, not counting those who are jobless but have run out of benefits, says there aren't jobs just falling into people's laps. Good paying, minimum wage or in between.

hmmmm....so according to your reasoning....someone who is speeding isn't really a criminal??? Someone drunk driving isn't really a criminal??

Sorry...anything that is LAW, when it's ignored or broken, makes them criminals by default.

Crossing an invisible border is not really criminal. Driving while drinking is criminal, speeding is criminal.

I dont think it makes one arrogant and spoiled to not be willing to be treated as a slave. I think most americans are looking for a better way of life for their families and need something right now too. It isnt a matter of criminality that irks me most, it is the double standard that favors non citizens from certain areas. It is as if we are all waiting in a line to earn what we need and some are allowed to jump in front as long as they can find the way to get there undetected, it makes no sense to me.


also, in regards to "Crossing an invisible border is not really criminal. Driving while drinking is criminal, speeding is criminal"

We can always build a FENCE so the border wont be invisible. That would be a huge waste of money though. IF I have a yard, there is a line (invisible or not) where mine ends and the neighbors begins. If my neighbor comes into my yard and begins doing WORK there without my permission, it is considered trespassing. Borders are necessary to keep checks and balances of who is traveling between countries. The same way we have front doors and locks on our homes so not just ANYONE looking for a better life can walk in. Our countries also have processes they use so not just ANYONE can walk in. It also protects those walking in from being unfairly and unjustly treated because of not being legally aknowledged as being present in the first place.

" Invisible " border???

Have you not noticed that there are Border Crossing Stations all over that " imaginary " border???