think they gave this Nobel peace prize to Obama less because of what he's done so far and more for not being Bush. And it's well deserved.

Conservatives seemed to be outraged that this is partly a snub of Bush. Yes, it is. And well deserved.

Bush was a warmonger who started a disastrous and completely unnecessary war in Iraq. But worst yet, he established the first-strike doctrine, which is as antithetical to peace as any act can be. It says you can attack any country that you view to be a vague threat to you in any way. Well, that's what starts endless wars. If this was a snub of that policy and that president, then it could not have been better placed.

Obama shouldn't have won for what he did but he should win for replacing the most anti-peace leader that we have seen in a long time. Is Bush a worse warmonger than Saddam Hussein, who started two wars against Iran and Kuwait? No. But he is more important because he represents the leadership of the developed world. If he turns the developed world from protectors of the peace to the purveyors of war, that does more damage than any one Saddam Hussein.

Barack Obama has promised to go in the opposite direction by consulting our allies, committing to diplomacy, reaching out to the Muslim world, not carrying out first strikes and ending the war in Iraq. Going in the opposite direction of Bush should be rewarded. And, of course, this is an honor he shares with the American people. This is a way that the Nobel committee is thanking the American people for choosing peace.

If conservatives are mad at that, sad day for them. Maybe they should reconsider whether it's wise to be the senseless war party.

It wasn't that long ago that they weren't. What no one seems to remember is that the original Bush Doctrine was his father's -- and it was the exact opposite. Say what you want about the "real" reasons for the first Persian Gulf War, but the precedent that H.W. Bush was establishing was that one country cannot unilaterally attack another. And precedent matters. There could have been an argument made that he should have won a Nobel Peace Prize for that (though he might have had to give it back when his progeny completely overturned his precedent).

But the Republican Party of today is this weird amalgamation of the bitter, the dispossessed, the angry and the violent. So, excuse us if we don't take your indignation too seriously. And next time you talk about the President of the United States a little respect is in order. That's your Commander in Chief who just won that award that for his country and its citizens. So, next time a crisp salute will do and then you can be on your way.

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Bush aside Obama receiving this just proves that the Nobel Peace Prize doesn't mean anything anymore, Alfred Nobel I'm sure is ashamed.

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ya know I loves ya. don't think either deserves it. but oh well...carry on

Hahaha, if I remember correctly when Bush won the libs foamed at the mouth like rabid dogs, so nothing new when an opposing party wins.

As far as the comment made by Cenk Uygur (Conservatives seemed to be outraged that this is partly a snub of Bush.) clearly shows his ignorance.

Conservatives AND some smart democrats know that Barack Hussein Obama winning the Nobel Peace prize is a complete disgrace and discredits the organization. It has absolutely nothing to do with Bush.

When I heard about the award, Bush NEVER came to my mind, what came to my mind was "why", "for what". Simple as that, taking something so simple and turning into something else, well.... gosh, I'll be nice.

so when Bush was President:

"And next time you talk about the President of the United States a little respect is in order."

Did those words apply as well?

You really don't need to answer the question.


I've never once talked disrespectfully of any President, period.
Because I do believe, it's wrong to do so.

Take care.

Welcome to mingle. You haven't been here long, not much respect for any of the presidents in here. But it is a public forum and people speak there minds. I think most of what you will see is people against his policy but some interperate as hatered towards the president eventhough it's not, well in most cases anyway.

He didnt realy "win"

Someone told me that Obama won the prize. The first thing that I said was that the Republicans sure aren't going to like that one.

I'm happy that this happened to our country.

What's interesting is that all of the Democrats that I know weren't all that upset about Bush becoming President. But...when he became President for a second term, they were upset. That's due to his actions and not his party affiliation.

I agree that people should talk respectfully about a President. I also think it's okay to criticize what they are doing, if you don't approve of it.

The Nobel committe said that they did not give it to Obama for what he did. They gave it to him for being a hopeful figure in the pursuit of world peace.

In that case he does deserve it. He has been working toward that and nuclear weapons disarmament.

Yeah just like hussein obama didn't win.

now doesn't that sound insane? haha see you're still hooked on badgering the former president What's good for the goose is good for the gander my friend.

"And next time you talk about the President of the United States a little respect is in order. That's your Commander in Chief who just won that award that for his country and its citizens. So, next time a crisp salute will do and then you can be on your way."

Sorry, I don't respect government thugs. FYI, the Nobel is not awarded to countries, only to the individuals who actually accomplish the feat in question. (how sad that people diminish the value of any awards by using Nationalism )

The committee says they wanted him to have it. So what is wrong with that? They said it is not for any actions, it is for the hope he gives.

I do not see the big deal.

Isn't it bad form to not congratulate those who win.

"FYI, the Nobel is not awarded to countries, only to the individuals who actually accomplish the feat in question."

That's correct. But...he does represent our country.

Barack's a jackass and so are the idiots at the Nobel committee!

when Obama will show respect for our country by holding his hand over his heart during the national anthom than I will show him respect!

Pish, I don't put a hand over my heart either. But that's just me. I will listen respectfully, and enjoy the national anthem, but I'm not selling my soul to anyone over it.