Topic: Why bash obama on this???
yellowrose10's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:15 AM


the ways here in this forum is one side bashes the other side. all sides do this. Nature of the beast laugh

I am an equal opportunity basherlaugh


laugh

Good one yellowrose!!

I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:


oh I know the arguments before they happen laugh I just wait for it then laugh

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:18 AM


the ways here in this forum is one side bashes the other side. all sides do this. Nature of the beast laugh

I am an equal opportunity basherlaugh


laugh

Good one yellowrose!!

I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:


Since I am not a liberal, who would you be talking about?

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Fri 10/09/09 11:22 AM


the ways here in this forum is one side bashes the other side. all sides do this. Nature of the beast laugh

I am an equal opportunity basherlaugh


laugh

Good one yellowrose!!

I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:


I think in your case, they were going by what you actually said in your post, as you did say something about hate. It may not have been what you meant, though.

look4you's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:27 AM







To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


If it weren't for the insults in this post, it would be a complete and utter joke.

Not one thing is accurate.

What a shame.

I don't toss insults...and that's your point for everything.
That's not accurate...blah,blah,blah
THEN MAKE IT ACCURATE...
Say something factually and rebut my comments. This is a forum you know.


You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Again, another response from you and AGAIN nothing to add. I have yet to see you debate anybody in here. Your already famous for "your not accurate, blah..blah...blah"
Please come back with something...ANYTHING worthy of a debate

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:29 AM
this was posted in another thread:


The deadline for nominations was February 1 -- just 10 days after Obama took office.

Whether he has done good or bad in the past months, that's a different topic, he was only in office for 10 days, when he was already nominated.

according to the Norwegian Nobel Committee this is what they had to say:


The chairman of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, explaining the decision to honor Obama, told skeptical journalists this morning: "We hope this can contribute a little bit to enhance what he is trying to do." When former President Jimmy Carter was given the prize in 2002, the Nobel judges readily agreed that the award was intended to be a "kick in the leg" to the Bush administration, which was then gearing up for war in Iraq.


President Obama is obviously not being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for anything he has done.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/10/09/a_bluntly_political_act/

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:30 AM








To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


If it weren't for the insults in this post, it would be a complete and utter joke.

Not one thing is accurate.

What a shame.

I don't toss insults...and that's your point for everything.
That's not accurate...blah,blah,blah
THEN MAKE IT ACCURATE...
Say something factually and rebut my comments. This is a forum you know.


You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Again, another response from you and AGAIN nothing to add. I have yet to see you debate anybody in here. Your already famous for "your not accurate, blah..blah...blah"
Please come back with something...ANYTHING worthy of a debate


Bring me something worth debating.

Kitteh_Kat's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:33 AM



I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:
Oh, great. Rhetoric. How original. *vomits*

look4you's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:34 AM



You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Thanks Dragoness. I actually find the insults rather amusing. It proves a point that when someone doesn't have anything intelligent to say and cannot back up what they are saying, they resort to bullying, name-calling and in some cases (in the real world), physical violence. It stems from ignorance, fear, and insecurity. We should feel sorry for this person, to be so continually wrapped up in all that hate and negativity.


What the hell are you talking about??? I have given you examples/facts and you are yet to counter anything that has been said. I see that you must love hearing yourself talk. And please do not compare what I said to physical violence. Your just showing the extremes of what a liberal does. You make a mountain out of a molehill. And please, as much as you don't want to hear this I'll pray for you to wake up someday. Bc, being a hypocrite must be tough...then again most Libs are.

look4you's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:36 AM




He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president.
You cannot deny that the divide is bigger than ever, and it started with Bush in 2004, and has carried over to Obama, who as far as I'm concerned is just another dirty politician... just like Bush and his predecessors.


Oh, I'm not saying the divide isn't huge (needlessly, but that's another topic). I'm simply saying that the divide has existed to varying degrees since John Adams. It cycles, too. This is certainly not the biggest we've had (i.e., the Civil War years). It has been growing incrementally, IMO, since probably Kennedy. I don't think there's been a presidency since him (and since I wasn't alive then, I'm going by hearsay) where people of both parties were more united.

It's a pity that we as a people allow this to happen. I think that probably 10% are extremists at each end of the political spectrum. Then there's the 80% of us in the middle who are just trying to muddle our way through the best way we know how. But we cannot blame the politicians, really. We have to blame ourselves. We still keep voting the professional politicians in. We *****, moan and complain, yet we still do it. We allow them to manipulate us. I think it's high time we took the power back. But, I don't believe that will happen, short of another civil war.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:36 AM




I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:
Oh, great. Rhetoric. How original. *vomits*


not rhetoric. it's actually accurate. you haven't been in here more than how long??? I've seen this done...so it's not rhetoric

no photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:37 AM




You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Thanks Dragoness. I actually find the insults rather amusing. It proves a point that when someone doesn't have anything intelligent to say and cannot back up what they are saying, they resort to bullying, name-calling and in some cases (in the real world), physical violence. It stems from ignorance, fear, and insecurity. We should feel sorry for this person, to be so continually wrapped up in all that hate and negativity.


What the hell are you talking about??? I have given you examples/facts and you are yet to counter anything that has been said. I see that you must love hearing yourself talk. And please do not compare what I said to physical violence. Your just showing the extremes of what a liberal does. You make a mountain out of a molehill. And please, as much as you don't want to hear this I'll pray for you to wake up someday. Bc, being a hypocrite must be tough...then again most Libs are.


Your responses are actually full of liberals are this and liberals are that. And nothing to back up what you're calling facts.

look4you's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:38 AM









To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


If it weren't for the insults in this post, it would be a complete and utter joke.

Not one thing is accurate.

What a shame.

I don't toss insults...and that's your point for everything.
That's not accurate...blah,blah,blah
THEN MAKE IT ACCURATE...
Say something factually and rebut my comments. This is a forum you know.


You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Again, another response from you and AGAIN nothing to add. I have yet to see you debate anybody in here. Your already famous for "your not accurate, blah..blah...blah"
Please come back with something...ANYTHING worthy of a debate


Bring me something worth debating.

Oh stop it now, your already infamous for saying nothing. I'll call you Blah...blah Drangoness for now on.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:38 AM





I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:
Oh, great. Rhetoric. How original. *vomits*


not rhetoric. it's actually accurate. you haven't been in here more than how long??? I've seen this done...so it's not rhetoric


Yes it is and untrue because I am not a liberal...lol

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:39 AM





You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Thanks Dragoness. I actually find the insults rather amusing. It proves a point that when someone doesn't have anything intelligent to say and cannot back up what they are saying, they resort to bullying, name-calling and in some cases (in the real world), physical violence. It stems from ignorance, fear, and insecurity. We should feel sorry for this person, to be so continually wrapped up in all that hate and negativity.


What the hell are you talking about??? I have given you examples/facts and you are yet to counter anything that has been said. I see that you must love hearing yourself talk. And please do not compare what I said to physical violence. Your just showing the extremes of what a liberal does. You make a mountain out of a molehill. And please, as much as you don't want to hear this I'll pray for you to wake up someday. Bc, being a hypocrite must be tough...then again most Libs are.


Your responses are actually full of liberals are this and liberals are that. And nothing to back up what you're calling facts.


And can't even define a liberal accurately on top of that.

look4you's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:40 AM






You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Thanks Dragoness. I actually find the insults rather amusing. It proves a point that when someone doesn't have anything intelligent to say and cannot back up what they are saying, they resort to bullying, name-calling and in some cases (in the real world), physical violence. It stems from ignorance, fear, and insecurity. We should feel sorry for this person, to be so continually wrapped up in all that hate and negativity.


What the hell are you talking about??? I have given you examples/facts and you are yet to counter anything that has been said. I see that you must love hearing yourself talk. And please do not compare what I said to physical violence. Your just showing the extremes of what a liberal does. You make a mountain out of a molehill. And please, as much as you don't want to hear this I'll pray for you to wake up someday. Bc, being a hypocrite must be tough...then again most Libs are.


Your responses are actually full of liberals are this and liberals are that. And nothing to back up what you're calling facts.

HAHA...
I give up with you.
It's actually hopeless
frustrated

And can't even define a liberal accurately on top of that.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:41 AM










To dantheamirican may I ask why you are blaming Obama for Us being in Afghanistan we were there before he was even President so why blame him I know we all want out of that mess over there but we're there and you have to understand that your friends chose the military life knowing we were at war over there, you can't blame the current president for what was already going on you don't know the details of his meeting there you don't know what happened so you can't say that he's a "BAD" president, you have to give him credit for trying to fix all the problems that Bush created while in the white house, We really have to give Obama credit for trying in a world where no one else is.

Ok, you can blame Bush for getting us into the war BUT, you need to point that finger at obama for having NO control over it. Obama is president now whether if it's a day or 9 months...the blames goes to him sooooo STOP blaming Bush, he is not here anymore. And yes, so far obama is a "Bad" president...he has done nothing as of yet except create a big divide between Republicans and Dems.


He created the divide? No, sorry, you need to go back to History 101. There's been a divide in political parties since our 2nd president. And why shouldn't Bush be blamed for the things he had direct control over and failed miserably at doing? Obama's certainly not perfect but it will take a considerable amount of time to regain the control that Bush (and others) are to blame for losing. I think you meant that Obama is responsible for what is going on now. He is taking and shouldering that responsibility. But blame? That would be like me blaming you for your friends' decision to join the military. Pointless and makes absolutely no sense.

What? I'm sorry I guess for your simple mind I should have said "recent divide"
And to deny that...then you are fooling yourself. Yes, you have to blame the man that ran his campaign on blaming Bush for the last 8yrs. Yes, you have to blame the man that has no control over congress. Yes, you have to blame the man that can't make a decision until he has the polls in his favor. Yes, you have to blame the man that is currently having our troops killed bc he is too afraid to put more troops in. Yes, you have to blame the man that wants to have China one day own us. That's YOUR man...the man that YOU voted for. So, please save that garbage that you are spouting to someone else. You don't nedd History 101 but go back to your DVR and just watch the last 2 yrs of your man's empty promises!


If it weren't for the insults in this post, it would be a complete and utter joke.

Not one thing is accurate.

What a shame.

I don't toss insults...and that's your point for everything.
That's not accurate...blah,blah,blah
THEN MAKE IT ACCURATE...
Say something factually and rebut my comments. This is a forum you know.


You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Again, another response from you and AGAIN nothing to add. I have yet to see you debate anybody in here. Your already famous for "your not accurate, blah..blah...blah"
Please come back with something...ANYTHING worthy of a debate


Bring me something worth debating.

Oh stop it now, your already infamous for saying nothing. I'll call you Blah...blah Drangoness for now on.


If I cared what the likes of you want to call me, I would be worse than you. So worry not.:thumbsup:

Bring me something worth debating and I will debate. I am not a liberal so you must leave that word out of it.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:42 AM







You did insult her and the whole damn thing is WRONG so there can be no debate. School, I recommend school. History of American would be a good start and then current events would be good after that.

I cannot debate ignorancy.


Thanks Dragoness. I actually find the insults rather amusing. It proves a point that when someone doesn't have anything intelligent to say and cannot back up what they are saying, they resort to bullying, name-calling and in some cases (in the real world), physical violence. It stems from ignorance, fear, and insecurity. We should feel sorry for this person, to be so continually wrapped up in all that hate and negativity.


What the hell are you talking about??? I have given you examples/facts and you are yet to counter anything that has been said. I see that you must love hearing yourself talk. And please do not compare what I said to physical violence. Your just showing the extremes of what a liberal does. You make a mountain out of a molehill. And please, as much as you don't want to hear this I'll pray for you to wake up someday. Bc, being a hypocrite must be tough...then again most Libs are.


Your responses are actually full of liberals are this and liberals are that. And nothing to back up what you're calling facts.

HAHA...
I give up with you.
It's actually hopeless
frustrated

And can't even define a liberal accurately on top of that.



LOL:thumbsup:

no photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:43 AM






I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:
Oh, great. Rhetoric. How original. *vomits*


not rhetoric. it's actually accurate. you haven't been in here more than how long??? I've seen this done...so it's not rhetoric


Yes it is and untrue because I am not a liberal...lol


Anyone who does not agree with everything they say they're going to call a liberal.

Atlantis75's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:44 AM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Fri 10/09/09 11:45 AM
It is really tiring to see every single thread sinking into the "who is a liberal, who isnt" and friend or foe...Not only tiring but sickening and ruining every single topic here. rant Same goes for the ones who are calling the right as "nutjobs" and similar.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 10/09/09 11:44 AM







I have noticed though that when one does not agree, some of the liberals on here misconstrue what was said and throw the race or hate card.

Thank goodness for a free Country to have all these opinions whether we like them or not :thumbsup:
Oh, great. Rhetoric. How original. *vomits*


not rhetoric. it's actually accurate. you haven't been in here more than how long??? I've seen this done...so it's not rhetoric


Yes it is and untrue because I am not a liberal...lol


Anyone who does not agree with everything they say they're going to call a liberal.


And they don't even know the definition of the word they use soooo "liberally" lol