Well, I'm sorry for your friend. But she did have choices. She could have opted for no treatment, many do. She could have opted to go out of the states for alternative therapies as many do. She could have opted for masectomies, as many do. I've been on daily chemo shots or pills for the past 12 1/2 years, I live the problems your friend is dealing with every damn day. But you know what, it beats the alternative, IMO.

Unfortunately, there is no cure right now, but we are far further along than we were 20 years ago when treatment was MUCH worse or 30 years ago when there was no treatment at all. Treatment then was as likely to kill you as the disease was.

Frankly, I get tired of people bashing the pharmaceutical companies. They have no idea the billions of dollars that are spent in research every year, only to find out that it didn't work. The billions of dollars in research to try to make what treatments they do have not as painful or lethal. So, yes, when the drug companies do find something that works, or works better, or works with fewer side effects, it IS expensive. And you know what, they DO need to recoup their costs because the money they recoup goes into even MORE research to try to find ways of making things better. Yes, these companies make a LOT of money (some of them) but the SPEND a lot of money as well. I, for one, do not begrudge them any profit that they earn, because any life they save or make better is worth it.

And, BTW, the major drug companies DO donate billions of dollars in drugs every year, to developing countries and the under or uninsured in the U.S.

I do not work for a drug company. But, unfortunately, I DO have a lot of experience in dealing with them as a leukemia patient who was involved in a clinical trial of a drug without which I wouldn't be here right now. Let me tell you something, I've spoken with the doctors, I've spoken with the heads of the drug companies, I've spoken with the researchers. There isn't ONE who doesn't wish they were unemployed. Because that would mean they had done their job.

Did I say that...

Or even imply it...

What cheek.

What pain she was in WHILE the cancer was present was nothing compared to the LINGERING and still present PAIN she is suffering NOW... She can't breath right... Gets sick every time any one any where near her gets sick... Can't use the arm on the side wher they used so much radiation she HAD SURFACE BURNS ON HER SKIN... that arm hurts all the time...

So...

Got anymore assumptions as to what I was saying?

Fight yes...

BUT FIGHT RIGHT...

Do you really think that a MULTI-BILLION dollar industry is going to fix the cash cow they suckly at?

Does anyone remember when Kramer wouldn't wear the AIDS ribbon? Too funny. Wearing a ribbon isn't going to cure anything,The World is far more complex. be seeing you

From the logic your giving,, you want people to ignore the drugs that help save their life,, and damn right i have cheek. I saw personally what it did to my grandmother, several friends and family members, people i LOVE. I saw what the treatments did to them, but i saw what they were like after they won the fight,, or what happened when it got too out of hand and killed them. but they never gave up. I watched my grandmother go from a strong woman who did things that no one said she could go from the woman i always looked up to to a skeleton with skin. she fought with everything she had, but it got the best of her, but she would have been dead years before if it hadnt been for the things that we have going for cancer we have today. damn right i have cheek, i will defend things i know do something other than talk.

I hate to speak a painful truth here, and what I am about to say is in no way denigrating to your friend and what she is experiencing. But, unfortunately, those are the side effects of the treatments and right now, the treatment she had is the best available.

You say she is in more pain now than she was before? Yes, this is very likely true. But, and until you've watched someone you love die from end-stage cancer, you have no idea what pain and suffering is. Without treatment, she would be in far worse shape and most likely, dead.

I know you don't want to believe it, but the doctors and researchers KNOW what the treatments are like and there are treatments being researched every day that will help eradicate these issues. I know this as I am on one of the few successful drugs of this type, called "smart drugs." I know that there are several types of these drugs in development now for treating breast cancer (as well as other types of cancers). It takes at minimum 10 years to bring a drug to the clinical trial stage, it takes on average another 2-3 years of trials on humans, then it takes on average another 2-3 years to get them approved. And that's only if there are no setbacks along the way. Many of these drugs never make it past the development stage. And many more never make it through stage 1 clinical trials. Smart drugs really just came into the forefront of research about 15 years ago. Some are just now reaching the trial stage. Maybe in 5 years or so, they will be available to the general public and will help eradicate not only the disease but the suffering that goes along with treatment. We can only have hope because without hope, we die.

Whatever.

Another person I know went through all the expensive treatments with their side effects and all...

and her cancer 'came back' according to the doctors, over an over she followed the insurance advice, doctors advice and cancer advisors advice... and still it would come back.

She quit all that...

and has been cancer free for 11 years.

Put that in your cheek...

There is more than one side to all this.

and you can bet that money ain't the answer... as long as it costs billions to 'seek' a cure...

A CURE WILL NEVER BE FOUND.

Get my point now!

Nice little world ya live in buck. have you a great day.

Yes, I'm intelligent enough to get your point. I just happen to disagree with it. I'm not saying you need to agree with me, but intelligent people can often look at other perspectives and realize that there may be truth there as well. Ignorant people get stuck in the rut of their own ignorance.

Get MY point.

Stange how they can put out new and better technology every few months... Make a faster better computer in days... build a new bomber ever 2 or three years...

Yet it takes 15 years to develope a 'cure' that works not, causes as much damage as that which it is supposed to 'cure' and sucks money down almost as fast as our government...

Strange indeed...

Yet polio was 'cured' on a shoe string budget...

Ignorance comes in many forms.

You are absolutely right, let someone CHOOSE how they want to be treated. My father and brother died from ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease), VERY VERY limited resources because of the FDA. When someone is diagnosed with a fatal disease they should have the option of how they want to be treated.

The FDA are merely hypocrites, infringing on dying people's rights. What a bunch of morons.

Dr. Mercola has a lot to say and well worth hearing as well. I trust Dr. Mercola and my homeopathic Dr. any day over political beaurocrat.

Ahhhh EXCELLENT post. So very true and it only goes to show how intrusive the government is.

Apologies for my outburst last pm, most have valid points. Your own research is what is vital...where you are treated or not. My heartffelt condolences to all o you whom have experienced it first hand- or lived with those whom did. YOu have a inner knowing and motivation to seek out is stronger to do the walk instead of just talk. I appreciate this thread for simply what reading here. PBS last night (local) had a repeat of clinical trials- was watching about what hopes and crashes AND those involved really felt- including pharmo when it fell through. There are people in their fields because they chose to go there...they aren't non-porfit- but this is not a perfect world. That will be my next trip around to see what it would be like to live insuch a world. Awareness is the key- with todays technology- people now really are learning what is going on and what isn't, and making those accountable be so.

I don't exactly understand wot ur gettin at!! About wot the person b4 me just sed, i agree. Better 2 go about findin a cure, than lettin ppl die quickly. Chemo and vomitin is enuff 2 deal with, without havin 2 die along with it. It saddens me.

Also, ppl think they know how they wud react, if diagnosed. Truth is u don't know how u'd react till u ACTUALLY get cancer. Been there, done that.

It's easier to make new technology then it is to predict the individual metabolic responses of each individual and every person's metabolic responses will be different at different ages and different weights. It takes time and scientific study. It's difficult to make medicines that make the least amount of damage to the complicated human body.

It's easier to make new technology then it is to predict the individual metabolic responses of each individual and every person's metabolic responses will be different at different ages and different weights. It takes time and scientific study. It's difficult to make medicines that make the least amount of damage to the complicated human body.


I still can't quite figure out how we can compare the workings of the human body and electronics? It's like comparing apples to pigs.

Hooray for Adventure and Pelad

You guys are awake.

Suzinva, you work for the witch-doctor monsters and are part of the problem. We dont' need ANY drugs period. God gave us natural plants for healing. But THEY can't patent those and it's very inexpensive.

So they just send a SWAT team to any doctor brave enough to actually use natural means and shut them down. Ensuring their monopoly.

There will NEVER be a cure for cancer until the FDA is completely destroyed and the whole gang arrested and forced to pay reparations.

Just wait until CODEX Ailemantaris and the new health care bill. ALL health freedom will soon be gone.

I would urge anybody who is actually interested in educating themselves to check out:

www.danielchapteronefreedom.com

There's no need to apologize. You've been through something that many of us have not been through. You've been through hell and back. You're a survivor.

That's just wrong. Medicines have saved lives. Medicines help mental illnesses too. Yes, natural means and preventative care are good but when they fail, we need those medicines. People used to die needlessly before penicillin.

When my father was young, children died from strep throat. He lost a young nephew that way. He lost an Uncle to an ulcer and another to a backed up colon. They wouldn't have died in our time and with the proper medications.