Topic: In the name of Jesus...
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Wed 05/30/07 08:16 AM
I hope i did better AB i tried not to copy and paste scriptuer. Take
Care Miles

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Wed 05/30/07 08:31 AM
AdventureBegins,

I find that when you have no leg to stand on you resort to accusing me
of being violent and/or wanting to hurt you.

I'm not surprised to find out that Exodus was written in Hebrew, just
like almost every other book of the Tanach.

Eloy is Spanish, not Hebrew. Elahay is Arabic, not Hebrew.
Explaination: Your Torah is broken.

Elohim means "God". The fact that you found a web site with a different
definition doesn't matter one bit and you know it. What matters is what
did the Hebrews mean by "Elohim"? God.

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Wed 05/30/07 08:37 AM
Spider.
You use G-d as refering to elohim. I agree Elohim is the Hebrew and
that is what he called himself.. YHWH Elohim. But have you ever noticed
a jew will never refer to The Creator as anything but g-d leaving the o
out. And i try not to use it either and i am not a jew. at least i do
not have any knowledge i have descendents from the tribe of judah. Do
you know why a (-) is used instead of an o? Miles

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Wed 05/30/07 08:45 AM
Milesoftheusa,

It's a way of avoiding writing the name of God, because Jews believe it
would be a sin for the name of God to be erased or defaced. Why?

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Wed 05/30/07 08:51 AM
In the end of the 100 years Gawd which is the same sound as g-d comes
again against Yahshua/Yahzikkanu. The transliteration of a name or in
this sence (Elohim). Scriptually refers to Gawd of Satan/Helel.The ruler
now of this world. Thats why.. Miles

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Wed 05/30/07 08:52 AM
sorry 1000 not 100.. Miles

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Wed 05/30/07 08:55 AM
What scripture supports that? This is the first I've heard of a "Gawd".
What's also interesting is that your explaination is why you use the "-"
instead of the "o", not the Jews. Jews don't believe in the millenium
and they use the "-" for the exact reason that I wrote.

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Wed 05/30/07 09:34 AM
Gawg is the way i undestand the pronuciation. You can study the
origins of this that is refered from Eze. and Rev. An Anti-messiah
figure. I for myself wil not refer to Yhwh as this escecially when he
said he was Yahweh Elohim. El being of the spirit. May not mean much to
you but to me it says alot.. Miles
NT:3100

NT:3098
<START GREEK>Magw/g
<END GREEK> Magog (mag-ogue'); of Hebrew origin [OT:4031]; Magog, a
foreign nation, i.e. (figuratively) an Antichristian party:
KJV - Magog.

OT:4031

OT:4031 gogm* Magowg (maw-gogue'); from OT:1463; Magog, a son of
Japheth; also a barbarous northern region:



NT:1136
<START GREEK>Gw/g
<END GREEK> Gog (gogue); of Hebrew origin [OT:1463]; Gog, a symb. name
for some future Antichrist:
KJV - Gog.
OT:1463

OT:1463 goG Gowg (gohg); of uncertain derivation; Gog, the name of an
Israelite, also of some nothern nation:

Gowg

OT:1463 Gowg —

Gog = "mountain"


1) a Reubenite, son of Shemaiah
2) the prophetic prince of Rosh, Meshech and Tubal, and Magog



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Wed 05/30/07 09:36 AM
spider.

In response to non-christians not seeing the trinity of God in the Old
Testement. How about Christians that don't see it.

Catholic is Christian is it not?
"The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament" (New
Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, Vol. XIV, p. 306).

I did not say YOU would physically attack me. I said SOME ON HERE.

the guilty fleeth when no man persuith.

laugh laugh laugh If the shoe fits...

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Wed 05/30/07 09:39 AM
AB like:
Deut 32:28-30
For they are a nation void of counsel,
Nor is there any understanding in them.
29 Oh, that they were wise, that they understood this,
That they would consider their latter end!
30 How could one chase a thousand,
And two put ten thousand to flight,
Unless their Rock had sold them,
NKJV
miles

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Wed 05/30/07 09:43 AM
Spider the jews do not use the word g-d unless speaking with a gentile
that i know of they will use Adoni or hashen (the name) they have
already desecraded the name of YHWH. by thier traditions and the
christians have picked up on it.. Miles

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Wed 05/30/07 09:48 AM
Milesoftheusa,

It's Gog and Magog. Magog is Russia and Gog is whomever the ruler of
Russia is. This has been known for many years. Thousands of years ago,
before Russia was a country, the Greeks called people from that area
"Children of Magog". The Arabs call the Great Wall of China "The Wall
of al Magog". It's not pronounced "Gawd".

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Wed 05/30/07 09:50 AM
AdventureBegins,

Catholics don't accept the Trinity as Christians do. Catholics believe
that God, the Son and the Holy Spirit are just different names for the
same entity. Therefore, they would agree with the Jews about if the
Trinity was taught in the OT.

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Wed 05/30/07 09:52 AM
Milesoftheusa,

Adonai means "earthly Lord", there is absolutely no way that Jews would
ever call God Adonai.

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Wed 05/30/07 09:54 AM
how is it prounounced? Gawd or g-d? You are right that g-g as written is
in russia. And you could see it(he) is an anti-messiah. Yahweh never
refered to himself as this and said you will have no other Elohim's
before him. To call him a g-d is that not against the commandment?We are
told our thoughts are not his thoughts.. Miles

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Wed 05/30/07 09:54 AM
Spider, are you implying that Catholics are not Christians?????????

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Wed 05/30/07 09:59 AM
Spider the word Elohim is plural EXCEPT when refering to the One God.

In that case there is a singular verb applied to the syntax in the
hebrew.

Elohim has plural morphological form in Hebrew, but it is used with
singular verbs and adjectives in the Hebrew text when the particular
meaning of the God of Israel (a singular deity) is traditionally
understood. Thus the very first words of the Bible are bre**** bara
Elohim, where bara ברא is a verb inflected as third person singular
masculine perfect. If Elohim were an ordinary plural word, then the
plural verb form bar'u בראו would have been used in this sentence
instead. Such plural grammatical forms are in fact found in cases where
Elohim has semantically plural reference (not referring to the God of
Israel).

Hewbrew is more complicated than you think. As in english sometimes a
plural can be changed to a singular by the application of a verb.

(This was pointed out to me by my daughter who is studing languages. So
far she speaks Spanish and French and is learning to read Hebrew and
German)

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Wed 05/30/07 10:00 AM
Milesoftheusa,

Jesus did call himself God. He spoke many times about it.

"Before Abraham was I AM" is my favorite example.

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Wed 05/30/07 10:02 AM
No even a name of a


Ezra 2:13-14
13 the people of Adonikam, six hundred and sixty-six;
NKJV
OT:140

OT:140 <q*yn!d)a& 'Adoniyqam (ad-o-nee-kawm'); from OT:113 and OT:6965;
lord of rising (i.e. high); Adonikam, the name of one or two Israelites:

OT:113

OT:113 /oda* 'adown (aw-done'); or (shortened) 'adon (aw-done'); from an
unused root (meaning to rule); sovereign, i.e. controller (human or
divine):


KJV - lord, master, owner. Compare also names beginning with "Adoni-".
So what do we really end up with..
My lord is soverien/master.. What do you say when referring to JC.. also
just a note his children 666.

Yes they used Adoni quite often. Sorry if i spelled it wrong at 1st..
Miles

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Wed 05/30/07 10:03 AM
invisible,

What do you care? All paths are right and all that jazz, remember?
Catholics have a lot of differences with protestants and with the Bible.
So yes, in my opinion, Catholics are not Christians in the strictest
sense. Christians don't pray to idols, but Catholics are told to do so.
Christians don't live by the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, but Catholics
do.