Aye and this is all about after Jesus.

I want to see the Old Testement proofs that Jesus is the Annointed One.

Not what the new testement says he will do in the future but what shows
his birth and life to be what was foretold.

AdventureBegins,

What was it you used to say when I asked for quotes? "Do it yourself,
for ye shall learn not, unless ye do it yourself!"

Don't worry, I don't have your hangups. Read The Book of Matthew. You
will find many verses that end with something like "As it was
prohecied". If you have a good Bible, it will show you what prophecy is
being talked about and you can flip back into the Old Testament and read
it for yourself.

I have read.

I am trying to find out how many people actually read the bible vs how
many spout praise to it and know it not.

Prophesy in the Old Testement the Torah the Zend Avesta and The
Baga'va'gita all show two things.

1. Jesus the Nazerene IS the one foretold and Christ.

2. The Seven Churches have decieved you and usurped His place and the
Very Place of God, have taught you falsely, and are still taching you
falsely.

Umm kinda gives a new meaning to the beast with Seven Horns.

AdventureBegins,

If they praise God and have faith in Jesus without having read the
Bible, what is wrong with that? Salvation isn't based on knowing the
Bible, it's based on knowing Jesus. While the Bible is the best source
of information on Jesus, one can be saved without being able to read a
single letter.

AdventureBegins,

Seven heads, ten horns.

Aye and I have not yet gotton to the ten horns but you can, If you look
see them. For they are attached to the Seven.

AdventureBegins,

You make me laugh. You said "the beast with seven horns", I correct you
and you pretend you were right anyways. Stop trying to teach anything
about the Bible, your beliefs are foul and perverted, everything you say
is a lie. You only use the Bible, because the best lie is part truth.

And so I spelled horns stead of heads scuse my typing skills.

It is still the seven Heads. will you now quibble each thing I say
based on my spelling and typing skills.

Many have this affliction.

Spider. You teach the doctrine of men not YHWH. AB is questioning your
belief. If you will with an open heart, study to show yourself approved.
Then whether he is right or wrong you should praise YHWH for
conditioning you. If you don't want conditioning then when the
tribulation comes you won't even know it is here. yahshua said that
before he came that all the world will know of him and the word of YHWH.
2 witnesses come and the world hates them. The rapture as you call it
can not happen untill they have preached for 3 1/2 years. For YHWH is
not a respector of persons. Will you believe the 2 who can put 10,000 to
flight. Who preach the law of Moshe and Yahshua as the annointed one
who's comming as John the baptists did. But this time they will teach
that his willowing fan is in his hand. So AB challenge me all you want I
appreciate it it makes me stronger. It brings up things i never would of
thought of. I hope more will challenge all of our beliefs. miles

AB YOU THINK THAT I DO NOT READ THE BIBLE ARE YOU SADDLY MISTAKE I READ
THE BIBLE EVERYDAY FOR YOUR INFORMATION I JUST FORGET AT TIMES IN WHAT
BOOK THINGS ARE IN I KNOW THE THING BOUT LOVE IS IN 1 CORINTHE CHAPTER
13 BOUT IF YOU DO MIRACLES YET NOT LOVE IT IS A CLANGING DONG

Milesoftheusa,

You must be reading a different thread than the one I'm reading. AB
didn't challenge anything. He asked a question and I answered it. He
made an incorrect statement and I corrected him. No challenge there.

OH BY THE WAY I THINK YOU ARE A CLANGING GONG AB

Stop trying to teach anything
about the Bible, your beliefs are foul and perverted, everything you say
is a lie. You only use the Bible, because the best lie is part truth.

AB has proven he has or is reading and studying not only the bible but
other books also. You as the pharasees did, want to attach him as they
did the messiah. how many times did they get angry and go after him but
he slipped away. So the words you used above are attacking him because
you see he has challenged you and you do not like it. Miles

Thank you for your blessing Wonderman.

I do no miracles I merely raise my voice.

Miles one other must come before the witness.

The spirit of truth.

If one knows the words as they are written and knows not the truth that
is within them then one is like a bloom on the withered rose. The
flower is sweet and lovely to look upon but the roots give not
sustenance as the bush has been watered with the water of the lie and
will die from the roots up.

WHO ARE YOU CALLING A PHARISEE MILES

Aye and I agree with him.

Pharisees in the time of Christ shut the doors of heaven to those that
were seeking God.

As does anyone that would tell a person 'you are not saved less you do
as I say'

God granted forgivness to any who asked even in the time of David.

As did the Pharisees in the time of Christ when they swore by the gift
upon the altar.

The Son of God is the Gift but God is the alter. Which then is more
important. The Gift or the Alter that sanctifies that gift?

Pharisees indeed.

Milesoftheusa,

You should be repulsed by false teachings. You should be offended that
AB teaches that everyone will go to heaven. You should be offended that
AB teaches that the path Jesus walked is the "wide and easy path". You
should be offended that AB uses God's name to describe himself: "I AM".
But instead, you are offended that I teach what Jesus and the Apostles
taught: The Law leads to death. You are guilty of breaking God's laws,
just like everyone else, therefore you are guilty. It is only through
Jesus Christ that we are perfected. You are fooling yourself by
believing that keeping the Law will save you, especially when you are
just as much a sinner as the rest of us.

Mon 05/28/07 06:25 PM
Milesoftheusa,

You should be repulsed by false teachings. You should be offended that
AB teaches that everyone will go to heaven. You should be offended that
AB teaches that the path Jesus walked is the "wide and easy path". You
should be offended that AB uses God's name to describe himself: "I AM".
But instead, you are offended that I teach what Jesus and the Apostles
taught: The Law leads to death. You are guilty of breaking God's laws,
just like everyone else, therefore you are guilty. It is only through
Jesus Christ that we are perfected. You are fooling yourself by
believing that keeping the Law will save you, especially when you are
just as much a sinner as the rest of us.

Spider I did not say that the path Jesus walked 'was the wide and easy
one' I said the path the YOU walk is the wide and easy one (i.e I am
forgiven so I need not follow the law'

As far as Names - prove to me that in me is not I AM!

It is through GOD that we are perfected God alone and our faith will
bring us perfection. Jesus brings salvation and forgivness, Love Hope
and Faith but he is not the Giver he is the Gift.

Twist not my words for I am not a book that you can read time and again
I AM that that I AM and I AM beyond your power to judge as are we all.

I was talking to Spider. I copied and paste part of what he said to AB.
A pharasee is anyone who uses tradition as a basis for thier faith. The
christian religion is based on tradition and not the commandments of
Yahweh. Yahshua did not call the common man a viper he called the
religious elite so to say a viper. Which was usually a pharasee yet
nicodemus was believing but could not and would not challenge the High
priest about Yahshua and who he was/is. Spider spits off as an authority
and he know very little. i know babes in the word who understand more.
The Spirit of truth will teach whoever will truely admitt, that all they
want is to follow Yahshua, who only did as his father commanded him. In
Yahshua's time the law had been added too. That is why the washings and
such are spoken about. Col 2:14 is quoted as feasts and sabbaths and
such being done away. Yet Paul was speaking to new converts about not
letting them take your faith from you. They were living in a pagan city
i believe of about 500,000. Read Zech 14 about the feast of Tabernacles
being kept in the 1000 year reign of Yahshua. And the curse if you do
not. Ask yourself why is Yahshua going to enforce this law when he comes
back but he had it done away while he is waiting to return? Take care I
know you do not mean to hurt or put down any one. I will speak the truth
and it is time for it to be spoken. If i do not then many peoples blood
will be on my hands. Miles