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the worlds comming to an end in 2012 anyways just ask the Mayans ...lol 
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He needs to be put in a corner for awhile
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And these same parents also refuse to support anyone that tries to provide discipline to their kids, claiming that their children are being treated unfairly or being singled out. And the children learn that they can disrespect their teachers, elders and peers without consequence.
Speaking of support........... We had a parent ( she is Black, there is a reason I mention this, so please bare with me) He daughter was badly behaved (being polite here) and needless to say she was always in trouble. The mother was constantly at the school having arguments with members of staff, the consequence of this was;members of staff (predominantly White) were scared to correct the behaviour of this child in question, that is, until I joined the team. I monitored the child's behaviour, then I requested a meeting with the mother in question. The mother actually told me on the phone that her child was being "singled-out" because she is Black. I don't think she knew I am Black, she did not recognise my name either, this was someone I worked with when I was a teenager, so yes, I knew her very well. During the course of our meeting I laid it on the line to her, I informed her of the events in the school and told her plain and simple she cannot make rash statements about staff members picking on her "little angel" because of the colour of her skin ( especially infront of her daughter) For the rest of last term and so far this term we have had changes in behaviour from this child. The mother has also become "staff friendly" I think in ten years time I am going to write a book................  
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The majority of this is a result of the unwinding of the fabric of society and the unwillingness of people to take responsibility for themselves or their kids. First, kids are no longer critical to the family unit. Until the last century, children played a critical role in the function and survival of the family. These roles and responsibilities gave them a sense of value. Today they generally don't get that, at least not in that manner. Good parents still maintain discipline and try to provide that sense of value, but many parents don't even do that. These children grow up with a sense of entitlement..... that things should be given to them. They also somehow begin to think that their shortcomings are somebody else's fault. These kids become parents without the skills to provide any sense of value to their kids. And the cycle continues. And these same parents also refuse to support anyone that tries to provide discipline to their kids, claiming that their children are being treated unfairly or being singled out. And the children learn that they can disrespect their teachers, elders and peers without consequence. And sadly, I don't see it getting better. Outstanding post. |
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I think it all comes down to the parents. If theres a lack of dicipline at home, the child doesnt learn how to respect his elders. Parents are afraid to punish their kids anymore. Or if they do...its some kind of bs timeout or something like that. Not all the time, Sally. (  ) My daughter is bi-polar and was punished if she did something wrong (at my house anyway) but she couldn't help what she was doing when she was doing it. She knew it was wrong but was like a ball rolling downhill, she had to continue until she reached the bottom before she could get herself under control.
sorry Eileena but i seriously think "bi-polar" and "ADD" are just a dr's excuse for getting people on meds because i know when i was a kid "ADD" and "Bi-Polar" were not very common but since the whole "you can't bust a kids @$$" thing started,just about every kid gets diagnosed with "ADD" or "Bi-Polar" of course maybe i'm the only one that has noticed this 
Jeff, hunny, as Gossip said bi-polar used to be called manic-depressive and it is a hereditary condition that my daughter ended up with. My ex-husband is the exact same way as my oldest. She wasn't diagnosed with this until she was about 11 but had the systems since she was 18 months or so. Kat can tell you stories of what we went through with her. |
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Me to!! My baby was not diagnosed till 17! Being my first and a young mom I didn't know what the he'll was happening!! School said it was my fault. Social workers didn't understand. The famy didn't understand!! Finally when the diagnosis was made with a competant psyc. She was put on meds which worked ONLY if she took them!
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My child has never been spanked and my child is doing just great. My child rarely talks back and respects their elders. Spanking does not work as a method of correction for ALL children.As someone working closely with behaviour issues in children, I have to "gauge" each child as an individual (everyone should) I have been told NOT to approach certain children when they "blow-up" and I should just walk away and leave them to it, they will soon calm down and then I may approach them. I am thankful to say I have never had to use this haphazard approach (unless I know for certain a child is statemented) then that becomes a different matter.I refuse to allow a child to slip through the net (I would not be true to my calling)On the whole I have had very good progress when dealing with children. Bonny, it sounds like the children need you. 
There is a boy with Autism in my child's class. He has anger problems. When he blows up, the teachers put him in a room by himself. They have the blinds closed and the lights off. They remove outside stimuli. The boy gradually calms down. |
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Same here..... My ex won't give her the meds on the weekends when he had her. It would take the three or four days to get her back on track and he would screw it up again. He didn't want to admit she had a problem because then he would have to admit to the problem himself.
Mine was diagnosed after she spent 17 days in the hospital and was under constant surveillance. She was put in there after being on Paxil---the drug from Hades. 
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Same here..... My ex won't give her the meds on the weekends when he had her. It would take the three or four days to get her back on track and he would screw it up again. He didn't want to admit she had a problem because then he would have to admit to the problem himself. Mine was diagnosed after she spent 17 days in the hospital and was under constant surveillance. She was put in there after being on Paxil---the drug from Hades.
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Same here..... My ex won't give her the meds on the weekends when he had her. It would take the three or four days to get her back on track and he would screw it up again. He didn't want to admit she had a problem because then he would have to admit to the problem himself. Mine was diagnosed after she spent 17 days in the hospital and was under constant surveillance. She was put in there after being on Paxil---the drug from Hades.
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Same here..... My ex won't give her the meds on the weekends when he had her. It would take the three or four days to get her back on track and he would screw it up again. He didn't want to admit she had a problem because then he would have to admit to the problem himself. Mine was diagnosed after she spent 17 days in the hospital and was under constant surveillance. She was put in there after being on Paxil---the drug from Hades.
I said Paxil is horrible because my daughter was 11 and it shouldn't be given to anyone under the age of 20. When she was on the correct drug, she can sit and concentrate and listen and reason like anyone else. Without the meds, she doesn't behave like an adult, she acts more like she is still in the terrible two's complete with temper tantrums and breaking things. I won't go into more details on the threads because unless you have lived with someone with this condition, you won't understand it. |
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I said Paxil is horrible because my daughter was 11 and it shouldn't be given to anyone under the age of 20. When she was on the correct drug, she can sit and concentrate and listen and reason like anyone else. Without the meds, she doesn't behave like an adult, she acts more like she is still in the terrible two's complete with temper tantrums and breaking things. I won't go into more details on the threads because unless you have lived with someone with this condition, you won't understand it. Eileena, I am not familar with the names of some of the medication mentioned in your post (they probably are named diffirently name in the UK) Do you know,or have you been told of the side effects of any of these drugs? Winx, I feel I am doing a good job where I work, some days can be frustrating, but I never give up.Each child has a right to be heard, and as I am one of the people employed by the school to lend support, by jove that is what I will do. |
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I said Paxil is horrible because my daughter was 11 and it shouldn't be given to anyone under the age of 20. When she was on the correct drug, she can sit and concentrate and listen and reason like anyone else. Without the meds, she doesn't behave like an adult, she acts more like she is still in the terrible two's complete with temper tantrums and breaking things. I won't go into more details on the threads because unless you have lived with someone with this condition, you won't understand it. Eileena, I am not familar with the names of some of the medication mentioned in your post (they probably are named diffirently name in the UK) Do you know,or have you been told of the side effects of any of these drugs? Winx, I feel I am doing a good job where I work, some days can be frustrating, but I never give up.Each child has a right to be heard, and as I am one of the people employed by the school to lend support, by jove that is what I will do. Bonny, the technical name of Paxil is paroxetine and it was causing all kinds of side effects with my daughter, from suicidal thoughts to anxiety. Here is a link that shows most of the symptoms http://depression.about.com/cs/paroxetine/l/blsidefxparoxet.htm (By Hades, I meant He!!)
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So are you refering to the people who obviously didnt take the time to read what they wrote, maybe using all caps, or not using any punctuation at all? Or are you refering to people who may mispell a word every now and again or maybe dont put in a comma where a period should be? I am not referring to those people with legitimate, documented learning disabilities, nor am I referring to accidental typographical errors. We are ALL guilty of those. However, when they (words) cease being accidental typographical errors and repeatedly continue to be misspelled/misused/etc., the truth lies. Agreed. |
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