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I don't care what government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," oh, really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll damn well assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself. Wow, he sure can make stuff up. 
it's called an opinion... 
He's saying it like it's fact and not opinion and there are fools in this country taking it as fact.....which is Rush's plan. That's the problem. take it up with the first amendment and the founding fathers. part of freedom of speech is having to tolerate speech you don't like.. sorry about that. I didn't write the rules but choosing to live in this country, I enjoy their protection.. when will people understand that there is no protection from offensive speech? You don't like something someone says? good. refute it.. tell us how a federal governing body with no accountability to the people, whose stated mission is to "cut costs" within the structure of the health care infrastructure is not going to look at $80,000 per year in dialysis for an 85 year old man isn't going to see that as an opportunity to "cut costs" Demonstrate how that same federal panel will not see a litany of similar cases of citizens "past their prime" who are consuming vast swathes of resources dedicated to "health care for all" and view it as an opportunity to "cut costs" the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery" It isn't going to happen period, only the sick and mentally twisted would think of it in the first place. I am even a fan of assisted suicide and I wouldn't think or consider along those lines. The people who have come up with the idea are the sickos and it sure as hell wasn't Obama or the healthcare counsel. |
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Edited by
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"the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery"
I've watched him talk about that woman several times. That's twisting what he said. He talked about the doctor and patient deciding what the best treatment was for the patient. He doesn't want insurance companies deciding it. Yes, we have the first amendment. He shouldn't say false statements like they are fact though. |
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I don't care what government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," oh, really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll damn well assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself. Wow, he sure can make stuff up.
it's called an opinion...
He's saying it like it's fact and not opinion and there are fools in this country taking it as fact.....which is Rush's plan. That's the problem. take it up with the first amendment and the founding fathers. part of freedom of speech is having to tolerate speech you don't like.. sorry about that. I didn't write the rules but choosing to live in this country, I enjoy their protection.. when will people understand that there is no protection from offensive speech? You don't like something someone says? good. refute it.. tell us how a federal governing body with no accountability to the people, whose stated mission is to "cut costs" within the structure of the health care infrastructure is not going to look at $80,000 per year in dialysis for an 85 year old man isn't going to see that as an opportunity to "cut costs" Demonstrate how that same federal panel will not see a litany of similar cases of citizens "past their prime" who are consuming vast swathes of resources dedicated to "health care for all" and view it as an opportunity to "cut costs" the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery" It isn't going to happen period, only the sick and mentally twisted would think of it in the first place. I am even a fan of assisted suicide and I wouldn't think or consider along those lines. The people who have come up with the idea are the sickos and it sure as hell wasn't Obama or the healthcare counsel. oh really?? shall I go back and dig up the ABC primetime special wherein Obama said "take the pain pill" ?? your lack of proper analysis tells me you either know they're lying to us and you don't care or that you believe that he didn't say something that not only did he say, but said straight-faced live on TV.. |
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Edited by
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Wed 09/09/09 01:45 PM
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I don't care what government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," oh, really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll damn well assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself. Wow, he sure can make stuff up.
it's called an opinion...
He's saying it like it's fact and not opinion and there are fools in this country taking it as fact.....which is Rush's plan. That's the problem. take it up with the first amendment and the founding fathers. part of freedom of speech is having to tolerate speech you don't like.. sorry about that. I didn't write the rules but choosing to live in this country, I enjoy their protection.. when will people understand that there is no protection from offensive speech? You don't like something someone says? good. refute it.. tell us how a federal governing body with no accountability to the people, whose stated mission is to "cut costs" within the structure of the health care infrastructure is not going to look at $80,000 per year in dialysis for an 85 year old man isn't going to see that as an opportunity to "cut costs" Demonstrate how that same federal panel will not see a litany of similar cases of citizens "past their prime" who are consuming vast swathes of resources dedicated to "health care for all" and view it as an opportunity to "cut costs" the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery" It isn't going to happen period, only the sick and mentally twisted would think of it in the first place. I am even a fan of assisted suicide and I wouldn't think or consider along those lines. The people who have come up with the idea are the sickos and it sure as hell wasn't Obama or the healthcare counsel. oh really?? shall I go back and dig up the ABC primetime special wherein Obama said "take the pain pill" ?? your lack of proper analysis tells me you either know they're lying to us and you don't care or that you believe that he didn't say something that not only did he say, but said straight-faced live on TV.. What he said did not imply at any level what is being implied here. So either you don't hear well or your comprehension is off keester. Only the sickos and mental unwell even thought along these lines and I know it wasn't Obama who started it. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 09/09/09 01:49 PM
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I don't care what government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," oh, really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll damn well assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself. Wow, he sure can make stuff up.
it's called an opinion...
He's saying it like it's fact and not opinion and there are fools in this country taking it as fact.....which is Rush's plan. That's the problem. take it up with the first amendment and the founding fathers. part of freedom of speech is having to tolerate speech you don't like.. sorry about that. I didn't write the rules but choosing to live in this country, I enjoy their protection.. when will people understand that there is no protection from offensive speech? You don't like something someone says? good. refute it.. tell us how a federal governing body with no accountability to the people, whose stated mission is to "cut costs" within the structure of the health care infrastructure is not going to look at $80,000 per year in dialysis for an 85 year old man isn't going to see that as an opportunity to "cut costs" Demonstrate how that same federal panel will not see a litany of similar cases of citizens "past their prime" who are consuming vast swathes of resources dedicated to "health care for all" and view it as an opportunity to "cut costs" the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery" It isn't going to happen period, only the sick and mentally twisted would think of it in the first place. I am even a fan of assisted suicide and I wouldn't think or consider along those lines. The people who have come up with the idea are the sickos and it sure as hell wasn't Obama or the healthcare counsel. oh really?? shall I go back and dig up the ABC primetime special wherein Obama said "take the pain pill" ?? your lack of proper analysis tells me you either know they're lying to us and you don't care or that you believe that he didn't say something that not only did he say, but said straight-faced live on TV.. I watched the video several times. 
He talked about the doctor and patient deciding what the best treatment was for the patient. He doesn't want insurance companies deciding it. |
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I can't believe anyone would follow what Palin said anyway, she is a freak of nature herself. Mental illness in full view of the public is what she is the poster child for.
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Wed 09/09/09 02:11 PM
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I don't care what government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," oh, really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll damn well assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself. Wow, he sure can make stuff up.
it's called an opinion...
He's saying it like it's fact and not opinion and there are fools in this country taking it as fact.....which is Rush's plan. That's the problem. take it up with the first amendment and the founding fathers. part of freedom of speech is having to tolerate speech you don't like.. sorry about that. I didn't write the rules but choosing to live in this country, I enjoy their protection.. when will people understand that there is no protection from offensive speech? You don't like something someone says? good. refute it.. tell us how a federal governing body with no accountability to the people, whose stated mission is to "cut costs" within the structure of the health care infrastructure is not going to look at $80,000 per year in dialysis for an 85 year old man isn't going to see that as an opportunity to "cut costs" Demonstrate how that same federal panel will not see a litany of similar cases of citizens "past their prime" who are consuming vast swathes of resources dedicated to "health care for all" and view it as an opportunity to "cut costs" the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery" It isn't going to happen period, only the sick and mentally twisted would think of it in the first place. I am even a fan of assisted suicide and I wouldn't think or consider along those lines. The people who have come up with the idea are the sickos and it sure as hell wasn't Obama or the healthcare counsel. oh really?? shall I go back and dig up the ABC primetime special wherein Obama said "take the pain pill" ?? your lack of proper analysis tells me you either know they're lying to us and you don't care or that you believe that he didn't say something that not only did he say, but said straight-faced live on TV.. I watched the video several times.
I'm thinking that you're lacking a proper analysis of it and only seeing what you want to see on this issue. Sorry winx. Hey edit me out of your quotes on yours down below, okay? |
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fine. have it your way..
but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 09/09/09 01:51 PM
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I don't care what government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," oh, really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll damn well assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself. Wow, he sure can make stuff up.
it's called an opinion...
He's saying it like it's fact and not opinion and there are fools in this country taking it as fact.....which is Rush's plan. That's the problem. take it up with the first amendment and the founding fathers. part of freedom of speech is having to tolerate speech you don't like.. sorry about that. I didn't write the rules but choosing to live in this country, I enjoy their protection.. when will people understand that there is no protection from offensive speech? You don't like something someone says? good. refute it.. tell us how a federal governing body with no accountability to the people, whose stated mission is to "cut costs" within the structure of the health care infrastructure is not going to look at $80,000 per year in dialysis for an 85 year old man isn't going to see that as an opportunity to "cut costs" Demonstrate how that same federal panel will not see a litany of similar cases of citizens "past their prime" who are consuming vast swathes of resources dedicated to "health care for all" and view it as an opportunity to "cut costs" the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery" It isn't going to happen period, only the sick and mentally twisted would think of it in the first place. I am even a fan of assisted suicide and I wouldn't think or consider along those lines. The people who have come up with the idea are the sickos and it sure as hell wasn't Obama or the healthcare counsel. oh really?? shall I go back and dig up the ABC primetime special wherein Obama said "take the pain pill" ?? your lack of proper analysis tells me you either know they're lying to us and you don't care or that you believe that he didn't say something that not only did he say, but said straight-faced live on TV.. I watched the video several times.
I'm thinking that you're lacking a proper analysis of it and only seeing what you want to see on this issue. But your the one seeing the sick interpretation of it, does that make you better than me? I'm sick right now and confused, Dragoness.  Are you asking me if it makes me better then you?
Btw, I edited my post. lol I mistakenly thought he was talking to me. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Wed 09/09/09 01:53 PM
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fine. have it your way.. but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. 
Won't need any of it but thanks for the "info"???? |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Wed 09/09/09 02:20 PM
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I don't care what government program, war on poverty -- when you read the legislation of the war on poverty did you see anywhere in that legislation, "Oh, and this will destroy poor families, this will destroy the black family," did you see it in there? No. Wasn't in there. When the left tells us, "There aren't any death panels in there, there's no end of life," oh, really? It doesn't have to say it to be in it. Welfare, the war on poverty, we were supposed to wipe out poverty and all we did was wipe out the black family. But that wasn't the intent of the legislation, was it? Just like in this health care bill, the words "death panel" may not be in there, but I'll damn well assure you there's going to be one. There can be no other way. So you got an economy that's plundered, you have an economy that is tanking, you have no hope on the horizon for job creation, and this guy is calling a joint session to get his rear end out of the bacon to save his image with his party and to get this health care bill passed so he can build a monument to himself. Wow, he sure can make stuff up.
it's called an opinion...
He's saying it like it's fact and not opinion and there are fools in this country taking it as fact.....which is Rush's plan. That's the problem. take it up with the first amendment and the founding fathers. part of freedom of speech is having to tolerate speech you don't like.. sorry about that. I didn't write the rules but choosing to live in this country, I enjoy their protection.. when will people understand that there is no protection from offensive speech? You don't like something someone says? good. refute it.. tell us how a federal governing body with no accountability to the people, whose stated mission is to "cut costs" within the structure of the health care infrastructure is not going to look at $80,000 per year in dialysis for an 85 year old man isn't going to see that as an opportunity to "cut costs" Demonstrate how that same federal panel will not see a litany of similar cases of citizens "past their prime" who are consuming vast swathes of resources dedicated to "health care for all" and view it as an opportunity to "cut costs" the 105 year old woman wants a hip replacement surgery that's going to cost $150,000, it's already been stated that "hey, you know you might just want to take a pain killer instead of having the surgery" It isn't going to happen period, only the sick and mentally twisted would think of it in the first place. I am even a fan of assisted suicide and I wouldn't think or consider along those lines. The people who have come up with the idea are the sickos and it sure as hell wasn't Obama or the healthcare counsel. oh really?? shall I go back and dig up the ABC primetime special wherein Obama said "take the pain pill" ?? your lack of proper analysis tells me you either know they're lying to us and you don't care or that you believe that he didn't say something that not only did he say, but said straight-faced live on TV.. I watched the video several times.
I'm thinking that you're lacking a proper analysis of it and only seeing what you want to see on this issue. I'm sick right now and confused, Dragoness. Are you asking me if it makes me better then you?
Btw, I edited my post. lol I mistakenly thought he was talking to me. Sorry Deb, I think I quoted the wrong one.
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Mobfather, what a perfect name for Rush....
Gio, you are not the only american, there are millions that support this president, whether you like that of not. And if I wanted an education I wouldn't seek out someone like Rush of all people. I look forward to the speech tonight. |
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fine. have it your way.. but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. You sure you aren't related to the Palin family? |
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Edited by
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fine. have it your way.. but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. You sure you aren't related to the Palin family? we're all related. you. me. everyone. wait.. that's an insult.. maybe I should go crying to the Mods for breach of forum rules.. 
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fine. have it your way.. but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. You sure you aren't related to the Palin family? we're all related. you. me. everyone. wait.. that's an insult.. maybe I should go crying to the Mods for breach of forum rules..
Recognizing that Palin is not a good role model goes in your favor though, really it does. |
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fine. have it your way.. but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. You sure you aren't related to the Palin family? we're all related. you. me. everyone. wait.. that's an insult.. maybe I should go crying to the Mods for breach of forum rules..
Recognizing that Palin is not a good role model goes in your favor though, really it does. my only role model is Vlad the Impaler. and p.s. I wouldn't wipe my butt with your approval |
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That's a classy way to talk to a woman.
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fine. have it your way.. but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. You sure you aren't related to the Palin family? we're all related. you. me. everyone. wait.. that's an insult.. maybe I should go crying to the Mods for breach of forum rules..
We are all related to Palin? Well if that is the case, I am rebelling against family influence. I refuse to be influenced by the insanity in my family.
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fine. have it your way.. but Heaven help your skinny (yeah right) butt when you're 90, or 80, or 70 and you need expensive but life prolonging treatment.. Hope you're "hope and change" account is built up sufficiently with the man/woman upstairs when you get to that bridge. and dont come crying to me or anyone else when they burn that sucker down with you on it.. I hope your soul will be prepared for that day.. You sure you aren't related to the Palin family? we're all related. you. me. everyone. wait.. that's an insult.. maybe I should go crying to the Mods for breach of forum rules..
Recognizing that Palin is not a good role model goes in your favor though, really it does. my only role model is Vlad the Impaler. and p.s. I wouldn't wipe my butt with your approval You must be confused, I did not give you any approval. |
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