I found your post interesting but after reading the article you
mentioned I found it lead the reader to be dangerously indifferent to
climate change.

For those who haven't read the article here it is and please read it so
you get the feel of the way it's written....

http://www.wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html.


I read the article and yes, yes, I agree that the earth cools and heats
up. The thing is the guy flip flops. Quote the article

"Almost 40 years ago, Bryson stood before the American Association for
the Advancement of Science and presented a paper saying human activity
could alter climate."

But later the article quotes him saying:

“All this argument is the temperature going up or not, it’s absurd,”
Bryson continues. “Of course it’s going up. It has gone up since the
early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out
of the Little Ice Age, not because we’re putting more carbon dioxide
into the air.”

*Note to readers that global temperture records started in 1856
Also note that industrial revolution began in Britian in 1760 and around
1830 spread to Belguim and France. The American industrial revolution
started around 1860 about the time the U.S. civil war started.*

In the article there an exchange between the expert and the interviewer
where the interviewer asks a 2 part question, the expert answer that
with his own question and then answer his own question. As follows....

Q: Could you rank the things that have the most significant impact and
where would you put carbon dioxide on the list?

A: Well let me give you one fact first. In the first 30 feet of the
atmosphere, on the average, outward radiation from the Earth, which is
what CO2 is supposed to affect, how much [of the reflected energy] is
absorbed by water vapor? In the first 30 feet, 80 percent, okay?

Q: Eighty percent of the heat radiated back from the surface is absorbed
in the first 30 feet by water vapor…

A: And how much is absorbed by carbon dioxide? Eight hundredths of one
percent. One one-thousandth as important as water vapor. You can go
outside and spit and have the same effect as doubling carbon dioxide.

*Note to reader the guy change the question to what he wanted to anwser.
That a political talk to change the dymanics of a question, or as I call
it "poli-tricks."

*Also note that most of the atmosphere (80%) covers 10 miles distance
from the earth where the guy only mentions a measley 30 feet. To give
you the bigger picture there are 150,900 feet in 10 miles.*

If you want REAL information on climate change check out these site....

http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/society/greenhouse.htm

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=105

http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2004/09/22/keen-dimming/

Earth is our mother.

There is no excuse for raping her.

yeah...abra...you said it beautifully!!!!

The earth is NOT my mother in as much your bung hole is not your mouth
piece.... or, I suppose it could be, but that's a guy thing.

dude the guy is right 'tricks' or not. Water Vapor is the most
reflective 'greenhouse gas' in our atmosphere. It accounts for some 80
% of the reflected energy. Greenhouses work by reflecting energy back
INTO the system so the first 30 feet of the atmosphere ARE more
important for reflecting earths energy The upper atmosphere is what
protects us from absorbed energy from the sun the lower atmospere
reflects our own energy back at us.

The more water vapor you get in the atmosphere the more energy is
reflected back the tempreture rises melts another glacier and you get
more water vapor etc.

Reading something also requires you to understand it.

For all those confuse about climate change misconception check out this
site....
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-to-talk-to-global-warming-sceptic.html

Read this, AB
www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=CZ434669U&

Interesting link there Zap.

FF your link is skewed. It is a personal blog by a person with an
obvious axe to grind.

I followed a few of his resource links. They led to some unscientific
websites.

I will point two out to you.

The link to global warming on mars states that the THEORY that there is
global warming on mars is based soley on two photographs taken 2 years
apart. Nothing could be farther from the truth. 1. It is not a THEORY
it is a FACT. 2. That fact is ascertained by albedo and atmospheric
measurements taken over a more than a 40 year period NOT BASED ON 2
PHOTOGRAPHS.

The link to solar decrease is a false assumption. In 1998 the solar sun
spot cycle did hit its 11 year peak and begin to subside or decrease.
This is true. However the Solar Cycle is allso at the same time hit a
176 year peek cycle. While Sun Spot activity (Solar Flares and the
like) has decreased the Solar Constant (what is emmited constantly) has
increased. The solar constant is what makes the 'solar wind' which
prevents comisic rays from enteracting with our atmosphere and that
decreases the cloud cover. Producing a higher heat index at the surface
which energy is in turn reflected back into space EXCEPT that water
vapor levels have increased which causes that inergy to be retained in
our system and that causes glaciers to melt.

Their is more going on out there then you think and mankind needs to
wake up cause our solar system sure is.

Precisely my point. Thank you. Your theory, his theory, who is right?
Depends on who you talk to. You have an agenda and will read into
something what you want to in order to bolster your agenda. He is no
different than you. Two men say they're Jesus, one of them must be
wrong. I'll venture a guess that you labeled HIM as a kook.

Nope just uninformed. There were many links there that led to
scientific and inquireing minds.

I just know a bit about the space stuff cause I been doing space stuff
since I was a kid and there is a lot of changes going on in our solar
system. Some of them very drastic.

Watch for jupiter in the news over the next 10 years and you'll know
what I am talking about.