Would we be technologically ahead or behind if religion did or didn't existed.

Some say that religion is the reason why we aren't landing people on Mars yet. Other says we would already have discovered warp drive and flew to other galaxies by now already.

Some say we would still live like cave men if religion wasn't a part of our lives.

What do you believe to be true?

A closer look at History would reveal that without religion, we wouldn't have modern medicine, schools, nor most of the sciece e have today.

Those who say what you've said above demonstrate a true ignorance themselves.

Thats the Truth Eljay

I don't think religion has anything to do with technology.
I think politic has something to do with it, money and power.
We would be technologically ahead if wasn't for politic.
That's what i believe to be true.

We use 15% of our brains if we're lucky. I've an IQ of 140 - so I probably don't use that much (especially since this last bike wreck). Tower of Babel - religion-fueled or not?

Yes im with you 100%

but that leaves out the Islamic world and China

scientific advancement continued unabated there

Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen. So be it!

I beg to differ. I suggest that what you are referring to is actually false upon closer examination.

Whilst it's true that many of the great discoveries of science may have been done in religious a religious atmosphere it would actually be quite false to claim that religion was responsible for the work of those scientists.

For example, Gegor Mendel was actually a Christian Monk and did all of his work on genetics in a monestary. Yet, his work was totally dimissed by the Christian community of his time and wasn't rediscovered until about 30 years after he died.

Moreover, the only reason it might appear that religion was involved at all was because religion ruled as an integral part of the government.

But clearly religion was not promoting science. On the contary just look what they did to people lik Copernicus, Galileo, and even Isaac Newtown was truly supressed in many ways and had to do all his 'alchemy experiements' in secret. To hide them from the religious authorities.

So to claim that religion was helpful in any of this is utter nonsense, IMHO.

Even to this very day religion denounces evolution, and stem cell research.

Let's get real here?

I'm mean, I'm only voicing my opinion here, but I think if anyone takes a serious look at history with an open mind they'll have to see the truth of this.

Just look at what happened at the library of Alexanderia in the name of Christiantity.

Horrible stuff.

I hold that we would have been far better off without religion just like the graph shows that I posted previouisly.

Religion in general? A toss-up.

I don't know what part of history some folks have been reading, but from what I can tell religion does everything it can to maintain the status quo. That's it job, to make people frightened of things they don't understand so they have to come back next Sunday and see how God supposedly saved them.

Look, Science is about advancement, forward motion, testing and retesting the boundries of what we know.

Religion is a hard set of beliefs that is unchanging, unmoving, and quite frankly flies in the face of all science at every turn.


I live in Kansas and we don't even teach evolution anymore in our schools. We are actually losing intellegence in this state. Why? Because religious leaders decided that "intellegent design" is a better explenation of how the earth came into exhistance, 5000 years ago.

Please, religion works for the advancement of science and medicine, what are you smoking some California medicine or something? Because of religion those who tried to perform autopsies were persecuted in the 1400s. How long did the study of anatomy retreat? The ancient Greeks knew of it, almost all of societies of the dark ages didn't. The plague's simple cure of lancing the boils wasn't even allowed at first because it was learned from the heathen Moors.

Medicines and potions were considered alchemy, the work of satan and witchcraft. Like all good tyranical things religion's first contact will always be "kill it, it's not like us." Ask a native American, pick a continent north or south it doesn't matter.

What's wrong with California medicine?

during the dark ages

in Arabia,

Ibn al-Haytham published his Book of Optics. he is also regarded as the father of optics, especially for his empirical proof of the intromission theory of light. and the creator of "the scientific method"

Muslim chemists and alchemists played an important role in the foundation of modern chemistry. Scholars such as Will Durant and Alexander von Humboldt regard Muslim chemists to be founders of chemistry

According to Fielding H. Garrison, the "Saracens themselves were the originators not only of algebra, chemistry, and geology, but of many of the so-called improvements or refinements of civilization"

In mathematics, Al-Khwarizmi gave his name to the concept of the algorithm, while the term algebra is derived from his publication Al-Jabr. He was the first to recognize algebra as a distinct field of mathematics.




the dark ages were only in europe

Well absolutely nothing except I don't have any

I'm in total agreement with RO.

Even today many Christian religious leaders are doing everything they can to try to stop science and scientific education in its tracks.

They oppose evolution, they oppose stem cell research. The supersition never stops. It's disgusting.

To be perfectly sincere about it, it angers me when people try to claim that their religion isn't against science out of one side of their mouth, and then turn around and argue against evolution out of the other side of their mouth.

That's just two-faced hypocrisy.

As far as I'm concerned it's just bold-faced lying to support their dogma. It's the bold-faced lying that angers me.

If they want to be against science the least they can do is own up to the truth. No need to lie about it.

But lying is what religion does best!!!

So?

When science finally took off like a rocket, where was the launching pad?