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Tue 08/04/09 04:43 AM
How can I understand the Word of God


Isaiah 34: 16 Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read…

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord gave us a commandment to seek ourselves out of the book of the Lord, the Holy Bible and read. Many of us have whole heartedly taken on this task but often ended up confused and mentally spent trying to read the Holy Scriptures from cover to cover. Why does this happen to so many of us seeking the understanding of the Word of God?

Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages, and from generations, but now is made
Manifest to his saints

•Col 1:26 tells us that the Word (The Holy Bible) is a mystery. Meaning that it is not easily known nor understood. This is proven in many scriptures and confirmed by Christ:

St. Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
St. Matthew 13:11 He answered, and said unto them because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to known the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing, they might not see, and hearing, they might not understand.

•Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:10 Confirmed by the words of Christ, proves that the knowledge of God is a mystery and the understanding is hidden in parables. A parable is a metaphorical teaching method, which educates some while hiding the understanding from others. Christ lets us know that not everyone can understand the Word of God and the understanding must be given to us by God himself. So then how do we become able to receive the understanding of God?

Isaish 28: 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

•Isa 28:9 asks whom will the Lord teach knowledge and whom shall he make to understand his instructions; for doctrine means instruction, policy, principles, set of guidelines, HIS LAW.
•And the Lord answers his own question with a parable: Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. This parable is comparing how a baby needs milk from his mothers breasts for nourishment until the time he is weaned and able to eat meat; compared to how when learning, a bible student unskilled in the Word must 1st focus on things easy to be understood and then move on to understanding harder to discern. This is proven in scripture.

1st Peter 2: 2 As new born babes desire the sincere mike of the word, that ye may grow thereby,

Hebrews 5: 12 For when for the time yee ought to bee teachers, yee have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the Oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk, is unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

•1st Pet2:2 & Heb 5:12-14 Perfectly expounds Isa 28:9; giving a clear and concise understanding of Isa 28:9. This understanding could only be gained by use precepts.

•pre•cept
Pronunciation: 'prE-"sept
Function: noun
1 : a command or principle intended especially as a general rule of action
2 : an order issued by legally constituted authority to a subordinate official
synonym LAW

•Precepts are Gods commands intended to edify us concerning all things to be right or wrong..
•Precepts are the only way you can understand Gods word, for it is the way he ordained it to be learned. This fact is Proven in Isa 28:10

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little.

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord shows us how he teaches us:
•Precept upon precept, line upon line; means you must use scripture to explain scripture.
•Here a little, and there a little; means you must use the different books, chapters, and scriptures of the bible to understand other scriptures, chapters, and books of the bible.
•Gods understanding only comes from proper precept use, David in the Psalms proves this.

Psalms 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Psalms 119:128 Therefor I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right: and I hate every false
way.

•In the Psalms David verifies that understanding comes from the precepts and those precepts concern all things to be right. So the only way to know what is right in the eyes of God is to know the precepts and any other means by which to understanding is false.
•This must be under stood; Understand can only come from scripture it self through proper use of percepts. Understanding dose not come from any mans private interpretation.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.

•The understanding in Gods word is not found in any ones opinion.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart: and lean not unto thine own understanding.

(Apocrypha) Ecclesiasticus 3:24 For many are deceived by their own vain opinion…

•The understanding of Gods word comes not from your pastor because he sweats profusely every time he peaches, or he has a nice car; diamonds; and dresses nice, nor dose it come from your momma because she goes to church every night and listens to Kirk Franklin. The understanding comes from the Word and if a man should speak any thing in the name of the Lord let it be according to the Word.

1st Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.

•Oracle- an utterance of God.

2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God speak as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

•God actually speaks directly through his prophets but is all ways according to his word, but what if some say, I have the Holy Ghost or God speaks through me, how would you prove if they were true?

Isaiah 8:20 To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

Jeremiah 23:16 Thus saith the Lord of host, Hearken not unto the words of the prophet that prophecy unto you; they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.

Jeremiah 23: 25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophecy lies in my Name, saying; I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

•The Scriptures shows with out a doubt that many lies are going out concerning the Lords word and if you don’t how understand what the Lord wants of you and what the truth is you can become hopelessly lost in the darkness that consumes the World.

•Christ warns us…

St. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered, and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.
St. Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name,. Saying, I am Christ: and shall deceive many.

St. Matthew24:11 And many false Prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

•The Lord gives us the answer on how not to be deceived.

Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

I hope this helped you…


www.thecomforter.info/main/

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Tue 08/04/09 11:24 AM
Understand it or accept it?
I can understand it perfectly fine, thank you very much.
However, I'm pretty sure I'd need a frontal lobotomy to accept it.

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Tue 08/04/09 11:26 AM
quit using the book and meditate and pray... if ya wanna know you will.

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Tue 08/04/09 11:39 AM
So god reveals himself only to those who believe. The sheep shall indeed inherit the earth.

Turn your brain off and everything makes sense.

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 08/04/09 11:57 AM
Everyone get to figure it own in their own way, what ever works for ya..:smile:

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 08/04/09 04:26 PM

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord gave us a commandment to seek ourselves out of the book of the Lord, the Holy Bible and read.


You're already making the assumption that whoever wrote the book of Isaiah speaks for God.

I personally have discovered that the entire Bible is necessarily a fabrication of immoral mortal men.

Therefore to follow that book as though it had been written by God would be to turn my back on my creator and instead follow bigoted male-chauvinist and very prejudiced unscrupulous mortal men.

The so-called "Holy" bible is not "Holy" at all. It's a disgrace to the very concept of divinity.

That's my honest sincere conclusion, and I base this conclusion on very serious problems, inconsistencies, and outright lies that are contained within that book that has been erroneously labeled as being a "Holy" book.

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Wed 08/05/09 01:06 AM

So god reveals himself only to those who believe. The sheep shall indeed inherit the earth.

Turn your brain off and everything makes sense.


doesn't it always? ignorance is bliss...

Foliel's photo
Mon 08/10/09 10:31 AM
be true to your life and live it in a good manner and you'll be golden. I never needed religion to have morals or to be a good person. Hell if anything I was terrible when i tried to have religion. You don't need the bible to understand the word of god.

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 08/10/09 08:32 PM
The gospel of GOD!

It is not in a book.

It is not in a well turned phrase.

It is all about you all the time.

For the comforter did come.

You just need to listen.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 08/10/09 08:55 PM

How can I understand the Word of God


Isaiah 34: 16 Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read…

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord gave us a commandment to seek ourselves out of the book of the Lord, the Holy Bible and read. Many of us have whole heartedly taken on this task but often ended up confused and mentally spent trying to read the Holy Scriptures from cover to cover. Why does this happen to so many of us seeking the understanding of the Word of God?

Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages, and from generations, but now is made
Manifest to his saints

•Col 1:26 tells us that the Word (The Holy Bible) is a mystery. Meaning that it is not easily known nor understood. This is proven in many scriptures and confirmed by Christ:

St. Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
St. Matthew 13:11 He answered, and said unto them because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to known the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing, they might not see, and hearing, they might not understand.

•Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:10 Confirmed by the words of Christ, proves that the knowledge of God is a mystery and the understanding is hidden in parables. A parable is a metaphorical teaching method, which educates some while hiding the understanding from others. Christ lets us know that not everyone can understand the Word of God and the understanding must be given to us by God himself. So then how do we become able to receive the understanding of God?

Isaish 28: 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

•Isa 28:9 asks whom will the Lord teach knowledge and whom shall he make to understand his instructions; for doctrine means instruction, policy, principles, set of guidelines, HIS LAW.
•And the Lord answers his own question with a parable: Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. This parable is comparing how a baby needs milk from his mothers breasts for nourishment until the time he is weaned and able to eat meat; compared to how when learning, a bible student unskilled in the Word must 1st focus on things easy to be understood and then move on to understanding harder to discern. This is proven in scripture.

1st Peter 2: 2 As new born babes desire the sincere mike of the word, that ye may grow thereby,

Hebrews 5: 12 For when for the time yee ought to bee teachers, yee have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the Oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk, is unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

•1st Pet2:2 & Heb 5:12-14 Perfectly expounds Isa 28:9; giving a clear and concise understanding of Isa 28:9. This understanding could only be gained by use precepts.

•pre•cept
Pronunciation: 'prE-"sept
Function: noun
1 : a command or principle intended especially as a general rule of action
2 : an order issued by legally constituted authority to a subordinate official
synonym LAW

•Precepts are Gods commands intended to edify us concerning all things to be right or wrong..
•Precepts are the only way you can understand Gods word, for it is the way he ordained it to be learned. This fact is Proven in Isa 28:10

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little.

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord shows us how he teaches us:
•Precept upon precept, line upon line; means you must use scripture to explain scripture.
•Here a little, and there a little; means you must use the different books, chapters, and scriptures of the bible to understand other scriptures, chapters, and books of the bible.
•Gods understanding only comes from proper precept use, David in the Psalms proves this.

Psalms 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Psalms 119:128 Therefor I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right: and I hate every false
way.

•In the Psalms David verifies that understanding comes from the precepts and those precepts concern all things to be right. So the only way to know what is right in the eyes of God is to know the precepts and any other means by which to understanding is false.
•This must be under stood; Understand can only come from scripture it self through proper use of percepts. Understanding dose not come from any mans private interpretation.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.

•The understanding in Gods word is not found in any ones opinion.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart: and lean not unto thine own understanding.

(Apocrypha) Ecclesiasticus 3:24 For many are deceived by their own vain opinion…

•The understanding of Gods word comes not from your pastor because he sweats profusely every time he peaches, or he has a nice car; diamonds; and dresses nice, nor dose it come from your momma because she goes to church every night and listens to Kirk Franklin. The understanding comes from the Word and if a man should speak any thing in the name of the Lord let it be according to the Word.

1st Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.

•Oracle- an utterance of God.

2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God speak as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

•God actually speaks directly through his prophets but is all ways according to his word, but what if some say, I have the Holy Ghost or God speaks through me, how would you prove if they were true?

Isaiah 8:20 To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

Jeremiah 23:16 Thus saith the Lord of host, Hearken not unto the words of the prophet that prophecy unto you; they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.

Jeremiah 23: 25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophecy lies in my Name, saying; I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

•The Scriptures shows with out a doubt that many lies are going out concerning the Lords word and if you don’t how understand what the Lord wants of you and what the truth is you can become hopelessly lost in the darkness that consumes the World.

•Christ warns us…

St. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered, and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.
St. Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name,. Saying, I am Christ: and shall deceive many.

St. Matthew24:11 And many false Prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

•The Lord gives us the answer on how not to be deceived.

Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

I hope this helped you…


www.thecomforter.info/main/




Absolutelythe word interprets the word. Excellent it would do all well to remember this.

Study to shew yourself approved. That you may have an answer for every man that asks of your faith..

The word is how you know what is a decietful spirit or one from Yahweh Many spirits of Anti-messiah go out unto the world this very day and the days to come .... Blessings of Shalom...Miles


AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 08/10/09 09:20 PM


How can I understand the Word of God


Isaiah 34: 16 Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read…

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord gave us a commandment to seek ourselves out of the book of the Lord, the Holy Bible and read. Many of us have whole heartedly taken on this task but often ended up confused and mentally spent trying to read the Holy Scriptures from cover to cover. Why does this happen to so many of us seeking the understanding of the Word of God?

Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages, and from generations, but now is made
Manifest to his saints

•Col 1:26 tells us that the Word (The Holy Bible) is a mystery. Meaning that it is not easily known nor understood. This is proven in many scriptures and confirmed by Christ:

St. Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
St. Matthew 13:11 He answered, and said unto them because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to known the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing, they might not see, and hearing, they might not understand.

•Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:10 Confirmed by the words of Christ, proves that the knowledge of God is a mystery and the understanding is hidden in parables. A parable is a metaphorical teaching method, which educates some while hiding the understanding from others. Christ lets us know that not everyone can understand the Word of God and the understanding must be given to us by God himself. So then how do we become able to receive the understanding of God?

Isaish 28: 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

•Isa 28:9 asks whom will the Lord teach knowledge and whom shall he make to understand his instructions; for doctrine means instruction, policy, principles, set of guidelines, HIS LAW.
•And the Lord answers his own question with a parable: Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. This parable is comparing how a baby needs milk from his mothers breasts for nourishment until the time he is weaned and able to eat meat; compared to how when learning, a bible student unskilled in the Word must 1st focus on things easy to be understood and then move on to understanding harder to discern. This is proven in scripture.

1st Peter 2: 2 As new born babes desire the sincere mike of the word, that ye may grow thereby,

Hebrews 5: 12 For when for the time yee ought to bee teachers, yee have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the Oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk, is unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

•1st Pet2:2 & Heb 5:12-14 Perfectly expounds Isa 28:9; giving a clear and concise understanding of Isa 28:9. This understanding could only be gained by use precepts.

•pre•cept
Pronunciation: 'prE-"sept
Function: noun
1 : a command or principle intended especially as a general rule of action
2 : an order issued by legally constituted authority to a subordinate official
synonym LAW

•Precepts are Gods commands intended to edify us concerning all things to be right or wrong..
•Precepts are the only way you can understand Gods word, for it is the way he ordained it to be learned. This fact is Proven in Isa 28:10

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little.

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord shows us how he teaches us:
•Precept upon precept, line upon line; means you must use scripture to explain scripture.
•Here a little, and there a little; means you must use the different books, chapters, and scriptures of the bible to understand other scriptures, chapters, and books of the bible.
•Gods understanding only comes from proper precept use, David in the Psalms proves this.

Psalms 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Psalms 119:128 Therefor I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right: and I hate every false
way.

•In the Psalms David verifies that understanding comes from the precepts and those precepts concern all things to be right. So the only way to know what is right in the eyes of God is to know the precepts and any other means by which to understanding is false.
•This must be under stood; Understand can only come from scripture it self through proper use of percepts. Understanding dose not come from any mans private interpretation.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.

•The understanding in Gods word is not found in any ones opinion.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart: and lean not unto thine own understanding.

(Apocrypha) Ecclesiasticus 3:24 For many are deceived by their own vain opinion…

•The understanding of Gods word comes not from your pastor because he sweats profusely every time he peaches, or he has a nice car; diamonds; and dresses nice, nor dose it come from your momma because she goes to church every night and listens to Kirk Franklin. The understanding comes from the Word and if a man should speak any thing in the name of the Lord let it be according to the Word.

1st Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.

•Oracle- an utterance of God.

2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God speak as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

•God actually speaks directly through his prophets but is all ways according to his word, but what if some say, I have the Holy Ghost or God speaks through me, how would you prove if they were true?

Isaiah 8:20 To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

Jeremiah 23:16 Thus saith the Lord of host, Hearken not unto the words of the prophet that prophecy unto you; they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.

Jeremiah 23: 25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophecy lies in my Name, saying; I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

•The Scriptures shows with out a doubt that many lies are going out concerning the Lords word and if you don’t how understand what the Lord wants of you and what the truth is you can become hopelessly lost in the darkness that consumes the World.

•Christ warns us…

St. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered, and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.
St. Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name,. Saying, I am Christ: and shall deceive many.

St. Matthew24:11 And many false Prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

•The Lord gives us the answer on how not to be deceived.

Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

I hope this helped you…


www.thecomforter.info/main/




Absolutelythe word interprets the word. Excellent it would do all well to remember this.

Study to shew yourself approved. That you may have an answer for every man that asks of your faith..

The word is how you know what is a decietful spirit or one from Yahweh Many spirits of Anti-messiah go out unto the world this very day and the days to come .... Blessings of Shalom...Miles



Interesting...

One cannot compare a rock to itself and see the actual value...

the word of god is a living thing present in every breath you take.

One will not find it in a tool of man.

Just listen... With a still small voice.


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Fri 08/14/09 06:04 AM
Edited by sail2awe on Fri 08/14/09 06:10 AM
The Biblical usage of Words are defined, not by Websters, but by Words the Holy Spirit teacheth. That means we must look them all up in every occurrance if we desire The Holy Spirits interpretation.

We find that, not everyone, as far as the Bible is concerned, are resurrected on the earth, nor in the heavenly city, nor in the super heavenly places. Abraham looked for a BETTER resurrection, BETTER promises, a BETTER hope, a BETTER country that is heavenly (in it's attributes), &c &c &c.

We read that there are things that are more excellent, and that Abraham, although he physically walked the land of promise, did not build himself a home, rather, he preferred to be a tent dweller and wait for something BETTER. Abraham is one of the overcomers, we learn in Hebrews 11.

Paul wrote that Truth, that is, The Word of God, must be rightly divided (2 Tim 2:15).

If one thing is better than another thing, then they cannot be the same!

So we find at least these three spheres of blessing, the meek shall inherit the earth, BETTER - the overcomers out of a certain called out group (no one can just join it) are seen as inheriting that heavenly city which also comes down to the earth, while BETTER - the third sphere of blessing is super heavenly, or, up in the heavenly places, and one Paul writes as having been 'hid in God' (not hid in the OT), and 'hid from ages and from generations but now' made known (after Acts sees (28:28) the Hebrews blinded and The Salvation of God SENT to the nations who shall here it).


Each one of these called out companies have their own instructions, their own hopes, blessings, adoption, and sphere of blessing. The practice for these instructions are different because the instructions are different.

Today these instructions are wildly mixed together, and causes great confusion in the proper application of what one should practice.

Paul, in 2 Tim 1, has already stated to 'hold fast the form of sound words'. What are these sound words?

One of them is translated 'knowledge', however, in most cases it is truly the word acknowledgment.

That great spiritual foe that meet head on within the first few pages of Scripture does not want anyone to acknowledge these differences. He likes it when things are all mixed together as if they are the same.

Again, if one thing is better or more excellent than another thing, then they are different. They are not the same. We need to rightly divide the Word of Truth, and allow for the differences that God Himself acknowledges.

Bless.

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Sat 08/15/09 12:31 AM

The Biblical usage of Words are defined, not by Websters, but by Words the Holy Spirit teacheth. That means we must look them all up in every occurrance if we desire The Holy Spirits interpretation.

We find that, not everyone, as far as the Bible is concerned, are resurrected on the earth, nor in the heavenly city, nor in the super heavenly places. Abraham looked for a BETTER resurrection, BETTER promises, a BETTER hope, a BETTER country that is heavenly (in it's attributes), &c &c &c.

We read that there are things that are more excellent, and that Abraham, although he physically walked the land of promise, did not build himself a home, rather, he preferred to be a tent dweller and wait for something BETTER. Abraham is one of the overcomers, we learn in Hebrews 11.

Paul wrote that Truth, that is, The Word of God, must be rightly divided (2 Tim 2:15).

If one thing is better than another thing, then they cannot be the same!

So we find at least these three spheres of blessing, the meek shall inherit the earth, BETTER - the overcomers out of a certain called out group (no one can just join it) are seen as inheriting that heavenly city which also comes down to the earth, while BETTER - the third sphere of blessing is super heavenly, or, up in the heavenly places, and one Paul writes as having been 'hid in God' (not hid in the OT), and 'hid from ages and from generations but now' made known (after Acts sees (28:28) the Hebrews blinded and The Salvation of God SENT to the nations who shall here it).


Each one of these called out companies have their own instructions, their own hopes, blessings, adoption, and sphere of blessing. The practice for these instructions are different because the instructions are different.

Today these instructions are wildly mixed together, and causes great confusion in the proper application of what one should practice.

Paul, in 2 Tim 1, has already stated to 'hold fast the form of sound words'. What are these sound words?

One of them is translated 'knowledge', however, in most cases it is truly the word acknowledgment.

That great spiritual foe that meet head on within the first few pages of Scripture does not want anyone to acknowledge these differences. He likes it when things are all mixed together as if they are the same.

Again, if one thing is better or more excellent than another thing, then they are different. They are not the same. We need to rightly divide the Word of Truth, and allow for the differences that God Himself acknowledges.

Bless.


I'm thinking an all powerful god woulda been a little less obtuse...

sail2awe's photo
Sat 08/15/09 04:12 AM
Edited by sail2awe on Sat 08/15/09 04:37 AM
Obutse?

Contrarily, the pattern and usage of Words in this Book are very exact, however, being spirit, He has to step down and use baby words that we can understand. We simply cannot climb up to Him at His level, so God stoops down to ours; and we do the same for our children too - I mean, we don't explain quantum physics or molecular biology to infants because they would not understand the words, rather, we begin with tiny simple words, like: this is your nose, this is your finger, &c &c.

And they do not immediately understand either, they are infants in a world that is simply much larger than they can grasp. The Lord understands this and uses simple Words. He then defines them for us so we don't have to guess. It's hard for us, it is for me at least.

This Book is meant to be understood by the Words He teaches, not words that other people teach.

There are no mixed metaphors in this Book, it is in the event of human affairs that the meaning of His Words receive other forms of interpretation, moreover, if we want understanding of His Words, then we have to learn that our interpretation is of little or no value.

This is where acknowledgment comes into view.

He is giving us His interpretation of something very bad that has happened, remember that that great spiritual foe and fallen angel was already fallen and in the garden within the first few pages. And there is this plan to fix it. This is a process which may be summed up in one word:

Redemption.

Bless


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Sun 08/30/09 01:38 PM
when i dont understand something i read it over and over and pray about it and the meaning will come. If you are not a believer, follower, christian, then u wont understand it. There are so many on here who try so hard to pass it off a fiction or whatever you call it. But I know what i experienced and it is very very real. I dont have to understand it all to believe it that my friends is what faith is.


Hope u find the answers u are looking for.

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Sun 08/30/09 05:19 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Sun 08/30/09 05:22 PM



How can I understand the Word of God


Isaiah 34: 16 Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read…

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord gave us a commandment to seek ourselves out of the book of the Lord, the Holy Bible and read. Many of us have whole heartedly taken on this task but often ended up confused and mentally spent trying to read the Holy Scriptures from cover to cover. Why does this happen to so many of us seeking the understanding of the Word of God?

Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages, and from generations, but now is made
Manifest to his saints

•Col 1:26 tells us that the Word (The Holy Bible) is a mystery. Meaning that it is not easily known nor understood. This is proven in many scriptures and confirmed by Christ:

St. Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
St. Matthew 13:11 He answered, and said unto them because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to known the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing, they might not see, and hearing, they might not understand.

•Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:10 Confirmed by the words of Christ, proves that the knowledge of God is a mystery and the understanding is hidden in parables. A parable is a metaphorical teaching method, which educates some while hiding the understanding from others. Christ lets us know that not everyone can understand the Word of God and the understanding must be given to us by God himself. So then how do we become able to receive the understanding of God?

Isaish 28: 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

•Isa 28:9 asks whom will the Lord teach knowledge and whom shall he make to understand his instructions; for doctrine means instruction, policy, principles, set of guidelines, HIS LAW.
•And the Lord answers his own question with a parable: Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. This parable is comparing how a baby needs milk from his mothers breasts for nourishment until the time he is weaned and able to eat meat; compared to how when learning, a bible student unskilled in the Word must 1st focus on things easy to be understood and then move on to understanding harder to discern. This is proven in scripture.

1st Peter 2: 2 As new born babes desire the sincere mike of the word, that ye may grow thereby,

Hebrews 5: 12 For when for the time yee ought to bee teachers, yee have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the Oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk, is unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

•1st Pet2:2 & Heb 5:12-14 Perfectly expounds Isa 28:9; giving a clear and concise understanding of Isa 28:9. This understanding could only be gained by use precepts.

•pre•cept
Pronunciation: 'prE-"sept
Function: noun
1 : a command or principle intended especially as a general rule of action
2 : an order issued by legally constituted authority to a subordinate official
synonym LAW

•Precepts are Gods commands intended to edify us concerning all things to be right or wrong..
•Precepts are the only way you can understand Gods word, for it is the way he ordained it to be learned. This fact is Proven in Isa 28:10

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little.

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord shows us how he teaches us:
•Precept upon precept, line upon line; means you must use scripture to explain scripture.
•Here a little, and there a little; means you must use the different books, chapters, and scriptures of the bible to understand other scriptures, chapters, and books of the bible.
•Gods understanding only comes from proper precept use, David in the Psalms proves this.

Psalms 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Psalms 119:128 Therefor I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right: and I hate every false
way.

•In the Psalms David verifies that understanding comes from the precepts and those precepts concern all things to be right. So the only way to know what is right in the eyes of God is to know the precepts and any other means by which to understanding is false.
•This must be under stood; Understand can only come from scripture it self through proper use of percepts. Understanding dose not come from any mans private interpretation.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.

•The understanding in Gods word is not found in any ones opinion.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart: and lean not unto thine own understanding.

(Apocrypha) Ecclesiasticus 3:24 For many are deceived by their own vain opinion…

•The understanding of Gods word comes not from your pastor because he sweats profusely every time he peaches, or he has a nice car; diamonds; and dresses nice, nor dose it come from your momma because she goes to church every night and listens to Kirk Franklin. The understanding comes from the Word and if a man should speak any thing in the name of the Lord let it be according to the Word.

1st Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.

•Oracle- an utterance of God.

2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God speak as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

•God actually speaks directly through his prophets but is all ways according to his word, but what if some say, I have the Holy Ghost or God speaks through me, how would you prove if they were true?

Isaiah 8:20 To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

Jeremiah 23:16 Thus saith the Lord of host, Hearken not unto the words of the prophet that prophecy unto you; they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.

Jeremiah 23: 25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophecy lies in my Name, saying; I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

•The Scriptures shows with out a doubt that many lies are going out concerning the Lords word and if you don’t how understand what the Lord wants of you and what the truth is you can become hopelessly lost in the darkness that consumes the World.

•Christ warns us…

St. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered, and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.
St. Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name,. Saying, I am Christ: and shall deceive many.

St. Matthew24:11 And many false Prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

•The Lord gives us the answer on how not to be deceived.

Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

I hope this helped you…


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Absolutelythe word interprets the word. Excellent it would do all well to remember this.

Study to shew yourself approved. That you may have an answer for every man that asks of your faith..

The word is how you know what is a decietful spirit or one from Yahweh Many spirits of Anti-messiah go out unto the world this very day and the days to come .... Blessings of Shalom...Miles



Interesting...

One cannot compare a rock to itself and see the actual value...

the word of god is a living thing present in every breath you take.

One will not find it in a tool of man.

Just listen... With a still small voice.




Yahweh says to test the spirits if they are of him.

He also says t0o study to show yourself approved and that he will bring all things into rememberance.

With that being told us the WORD or Yahshua who kept the Law/ Scriptures perfectly tells us if any revelation does not agree with the scriptures it is not of Yahweh.

That still small voiice must always be challenged where it came from.
If you know the scriptures in your heart from deep study and made it apart of your every day living he promices us in the day of trial that we need not meditate what we will say because the Holy Spirit which is in us will give us the words we are to say to us. Rememberance.
We are told Satans ministers will come as Angels of Light just like him. Almost everyone will love him and follow a way of life that honors Satan not Yahweh..Shalom...Miles

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Joh 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

People can study the Bible for years and never understand it. They can reject it and burn it. They can use it to say what ever they want it to in order to justify behaviors like they have historically when killing others, torturing them, taking their property, having same gender marriage, and every manner of disobedience.

There is one major point (of several) that needs to be understood. The Bible was not written to be understood by everyone. It is the same principle that Christ used when speaking in parables. He did not speak so that other would understand. Just the opposite:

Mar 4:10 And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

Jesus is actually quoting Isa 28. In like manner, the Bible is not written to be understood by everyone. However there are some rules it gives to understand, one of which is this:

You have to continue in "doing" what it says. People read it, and interpret it any way they like because they are not sincerely committed to submitting to what it says. So, they continue in their obscurity like the Pharisees who read the Scriptures and could quote them, but never understood what they meant.

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Sat 09/12/09 10:42 PM




How can I understand the Word of God


Isaiah 34: 16 Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read…

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord gave us a commandment to seek ourselves out of the book of the Lord, the Holy Bible and read. Many of us have whole heartedly taken on this task but often ended up confused and mentally spent trying to read the Holy Scriptures from cover to cover. Why does this happen to so many of us seeking the understanding of the Word of God?

Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages, and from generations, but now is made
Manifest to his saints

•Col 1:26 tells us that the Word (The Holy Bible) is a mystery. Meaning that it is not easily known nor understood. This is proven in many scriptures and confirmed by Christ:

St. Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
St. Matthew 13:11 He answered, and said unto them because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to known the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing, they might not see, and hearing, they might not understand.

•Matt 13:10-11 & Luke 8:10 Confirmed by the words of Christ, proves that the knowledge of God is a mystery and the understanding is hidden in parables. A parable is a metaphorical teaching method, which educates some while hiding the understanding from others. Christ lets us know that not everyone can understand the Word of God and the understanding must be given to us by God himself. So then how do we become able to receive the understanding of God?

Isaish 28: 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

•Isa 28:9 asks whom will the Lord teach knowledge and whom shall he make to understand his instructions; for doctrine means instruction, policy, principles, set of guidelines, HIS LAW.
•And the Lord answers his own question with a parable: Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. This parable is comparing how a baby needs milk from his mothers breasts for nourishment until the time he is weaned and able to eat meat; compared to how when learning, a bible student unskilled in the Word must 1st focus on things easy to be understood and then move on to understanding harder to discern. This is proven in scripture.

1st Peter 2: 2 As new born babes desire the sincere mike of the word, that ye may grow thereby,

Hebrews 5: 12 For when for the time yee ought to bee teachers, yee have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the Oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk, and not strong meat.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk, is unskillful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

•1st Pet2:2 & Heb 5:12-14 Perfectly expounds Isa 28:9; giving a clear and concise understanding of Isa 28:9. This understanding could only be gained by use precepts.

•pre•cept
Pronunciation: 'prE-"sept
Function: noun
1 : a command or principle intended especially as a general rule of action
2 : an order issued by legally constituted authority to a subordinate official
synonym LAW

•Precepts are Gods commands intended to edify us concerning all things to be right or wrong..
•Precepts are the only way you can understand Gods word, for it is the way he ordained it to be learned. This fact is Proven in Isa 28:10

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little.

•In the book of Isaiah the Lord shows us how he teaches us:
•Precept upon precept, line upon line; means you must use scripture to explain scripture.
•Here a little, and there a little; means you must use the different books, chapters, and scriptures of the bible to understand other scriptures, chapters, and books of the bible.
•Gods understanding only comes from proper precept use, David in the Psalms proves this.

Psalms 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Psalms 119:128 Therefor I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right: and I hate every false
way.

•In the Psalms David verifies that understanding comes from the precepts and those precepts concern all things to be right. So the only way to know what is right in the eyes of God is to know the precepts and any other means by which to understanding is false.
•This must be under stood; Understand can only come from scripture it self through proper use of percepts. Understanding dose not come from any mans private interpretation.

2nd Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation.

•The understanding in Gods word is not found in any ones opinion.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart: and lean not unto thine own understanding.

(Apocrypha) Ecclesiasticus 3:24 For many are deceived by their own vain opinion…

•The understanding of Gods word comes not from your pastor because he sweats profusely every time he peaches, or he has a nice car; diamonds; and dresses nice, nor dose it come from your momma because she goes to church every night and listens to Kirk Franklin. The understanding comes from the Word and if a man should speak any thing in the name of the Lord let it be according to the Word.

1st Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God.

•Oracle- an utterance of God.

2nd Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God speak as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

•God actually speaks directly through his prophets but is all ways according to his word, but what if some say, I have the Holy Ghost or God speaks through me, how would you prove if they were true?

Isaiah 8:20 To the Law and to the Testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

Jeremiah 23:16 Thus saith the Lord of host, Hearken not unto the words of the prophet that prophecy unto you; they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, , and not out of the mouth of the Lord.

Jeremiah 23: 25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophecy lies in my Name, saying; I have dreamed, I have dreamed.

•The Scriptures shows with out a doubt that many lies are going out concerning the Lords word and if you don’t how understand what the Lord wants of you and what the truth is you can become hopelessly lost in the darkness that consumes the World.

•Christ warns us…

St. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered, and said unto them, take heed that no man deceive you.
St. Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name,. Saying, I am Christ: and shall deceive many.

St. Matthew24:11 And many false Prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

•The Lord gives us the answer on how not to be deceived.

Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

I hope this helped you…


www.thecomforter.info/main/




Absolutelythe word interprets the word. Excellent it would do all well to remember this.

Study to shew yourself approved. That you may have an answer for every man that asks of your faith..

The word is how you know what is a decietful spirit or one from Yahweh Many spirits of Anti-messiah go out unto the world this very day and the days to come .... Blessings of Shalom...Miles



Interesting...

One cannot compare a rock to itself and see the actual value...

the word of god is a living thing present in every breath you take.

One will not find it in a tool of man.

Just listen... With a still small voice.




Yahweh says to test the spirits if they are of him.

He also says t0o study to show yourself approved and that he will bring all things into rememberance.

With that being told us the WORD or Yahshua who kept the Law/ Scriptures perfectly tells us if any revelation does not agree with the scriptures it is not of Yahweh.

That still small voiice must always be challenged where it came from.
If you know the scriptures in your heart from deep study and made it apart of your every day living he promices us in the day of trial that we need not meditate what we will say because the Holy Spirit which is in us will give us the words we are to say to us. Rememberance.
We are told Satans ministers will come as Angels of Light just like him. Almost everyone will love him and follow a way of life that honors Satan not Yahweh..Shalom...Miles

Yahweh is REPORTED to have said those things... If you read it then it was not said to you but told by another.

I did not say listen to the still small voice... I said listen WITH a still small voice.

The stiller and smaller YOUR voice... The better your ears hear the voice of the spirit.

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Sun 09/13/09 07:53 AM
I agree with adventure begins. The bible is a tool to help you with the word of God. You must find the meaning yourself.

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Sun 09/13/09 08:54 AM

So god reveals himself only to those who believe. The sheep shall indeed inherit the earth.

Turn your brain off and everything makes sense.


Actually, in order to understand.. you must open your eyes, and your minds eye to hear, feel and see it. It is not all physical.

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