Topic: Who are the Christians here?????? | |
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I am a believer in Christ.
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Dazzling, that's exactly what I mean... I'm just extremely long winded!
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Redangel
"if you follow God's Plan and not something that was set up by human beings and get a true understanding of the Bible for yourself, you won't get sucked into 'religious' confines... " Right on girl! |
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Depends how you define the word. In the King James version of the Bible
the word means Christlike. In an extreme point of view one might think of a follower as lion food. When you look at the verse, "Take up your cross and follow me" it is easy to see the martyrdom of the faith. But when you look at the verse, "Peace, peace I come not to bring peace but a sword" one can start to see the contradictions. I think the song, "Onward Christian Soldiers" aptly defines Holy War. "Onward Christian soldiers, onward as to war, with the cross of Jesus, going on before." |
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RedAngel wrote:
“I'm a follower of Christ... But I don't have a denomination...” Yeah really. If all a person needs to be to be a Christian is to follow the teachings of Christ, then I’m a Christian too. But I already led my life that way anyhow, so I’m not completely sure who’s following whom. I don’t associated with any churches or religions because from my point of view they teach a lot of bad stuff and have displayed a gross misunderstanding of the message of Jesus. They seem to think of Christ as some kind of free ticket into heaven. But like you suggest, there are a lot of different denominations. Were Jim Jones and David Koresh Christians? They certainly believed they were, and so did their followers. But if being a Christian means to belong to a church then no way. I’m definitely not a Christian and will never become one (not even to save my soul!) I’d rather just perish thank you. |
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Not at all what I meant, I'm just too longwinded to get it all in one
post. What I mean is that I believe in Christ, I follow his teachings, as well as the other teachings in the Bible. I live my life according to what I believe to be God's intended plan for life. After all isn't 'religion' what you interpret it to be anyway? It's a personal thing, it's not something you share or can even explain to someone else. My belief is shaped by the things I've been through, the things I've learned, and what I've discovered for myself. So when it comes to those folks that have taken the lives of and proclaimed to be in the name of Christ... I mean what can you really say? I can't say I'd hate to be a Christian because of what some people have misunderstood. When the people downed the towers, they did it in the name of Allah. But are all Muslims that way? Not at all. Some people just misinterpret their purpose... that's how I look at it. And again, that's just me... |
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When Allah and God can settle their differences then maybe the rest of
us can live in peace. |
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Our attitudes toward one another have nothing to do with who we worship.
It has everything to do with forgetting that we're all a part of humanity. Blaming religious differences for our problems is just a way of avoiding the bigger picture... and Abra~ Hun you didn't read my second post huh? |
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Angel wrote:
“Blaming religious differences for our problems is just a way of avoiding the bigger picture” I think there’s a big difference between ‘blaming them’ and recognizing their potential for creating an atmosphere of bigotry, intolerance, or even hatred. I’m not against all churches. I know there are some really nice churches that have good preachers and good congregations. But there are others that have preachers who have agendas and congregations that are easily riled up into being ‘used’ for those agendas. This is why I prefer not to be associated with organized religions. Also, you mentioned doing your own thing: Angel wrote: “After all isn't 'religion' what you interpret it to be anyway? It's a personal thing, it's not something you share or can even explain to someone else. My belief is shaped by the things I've been through, the things I've learned, and what I've discovered for myself.” I totally agree with you. I believe that this is the way it should be. And many churches do allow for this kind of freedom. But some others do not. Some demand that the word of God should be followed, and they claim to know what that word is. So they push it onto their congregations. But you’re right, churches should be more liberal. Some are, some aren’t. I avoid the issue altogether by simply avoiding the churches altogether and then it becomes a non-issue. |
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Rainbow>
Allah and God and YHWY are all the same. Babel has confused you. The problem lies not with That-Which-Is Iam. The problem lies with the Religions-Which-Use-His-Name to enrich themselves or place themselves upon the high places as though they are Him. When they begin their inevitable descent as Yahwea/Allah/God breaths truth upon them and makes them low our whole reality will be sundered. Another reason I do not belong to a crutch. I mean Church. You all keep your faith. It will be what brings you peace. |
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I am a Yahwists. I believe in using the true name as give by our
creator and commanded to use. Yahweh and Yahshua. Father and Son with the son through the father has did all creation as he was commanded. He came in the Authority of Yahweh and was known as Yahweh in the OT. I also believe that the OT laws which some say are 613 commands. I do not know or care how many. I do know that Paul went into the Temple in Acts 21 to show the Jews he did not teach against the law. $ men who had an Nazorite vow on them came and needed to go into the temple and sacrafice for 7 days and shave thier heads to complete the vow. (likw samson) He was attached because the Jews accused him of defiling the Temple for taking greeks/gentiles in. He then appeal to ceasur as a Roman citizen. This is how/why he ended up in rome. During the journey Paul got upset because he missed a feast he was commanded to keep at jerusalem. Now as far as Allah goes it is true that Isaac was not the 1st born of Abraham but he was of the promice that Yahweh said he would have a son from a barren women. Allah if you just look at it is a play on words from Yahweh. The Arabs claim Abrahams 1st born had the promice and fighting has went on ever since. But look at a map of the middle east and how many cities end in yah? Just like the prophets names end in yah.. ie Isa-yah,zecher-yah, zephen-yah, and in the NT mathews hebrew name ends in yah and john the baptists name was Yahchonan meaning Yahs beloved. Forgetting about these names having Yahweh's name in them and saying we can call him anything we want is dangeroius .This is truth that can not be denied the scriptures show it plainly. Yet as humans we choose to be like the Tower of babel (even this name claims spiritship an avatar) We have increased so much in knowledge (as daniel fortold) that we do not need Yahweh. So we decide what is right and what is wrong. Bringing to pass in this age as the prophet Isayah foretold. They will make evil good and good will be evil. Watch Tv or read newspapers and I bet you all can see Isayah's prophecy comming true. Miles |
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Adventure, I agree. I think God has many names. Coming from Cherokee
descent I believe in the Great Spirit. When I went into treatment for alcohol and drug addiction I was very confused more so than I am now. I was working with an old preacher last night who has dementia. I have learned from the nursing college that he who argues with a fool is a fool. Last night the old preacher was determined he was right and I was wrong. He goes through these episodes that are like a loop. He thought he was in front of the urinal. I was determined not to argue this time. I looked at it as the customer is always right. He is a paying customer. So I said just go ahead, John. He whoops it out and pisses all over himself, his sock and everything. He then decides he want to go for a walk so I am holding his hand after he pissed all over the floor watching him track the floor in piss. I figured what the hell. He is happy. It does take that long to take the towels to clean up the mess. |
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I am a Christian
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I am not a Christian, which I am sure is not a shocker to anyone. I do
have the highest respect for all people & their convictions, whether it be religious or otherwise. |
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